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 06/12/2007 04:19:08 PM · #26
Originally posted by biteme:
I'd go for 2.


Why must one preclude the other? Do both.
 06/12/2007 04:29:49 PM · #27
I hate 'out of the box' entries. It is not a good idea, it is a lazy excuse for submitting a shot that doesn't fit the challenge description. If the challenge says photograph a brown horse, how can a black and white cow meet that challenge, but you can be sure someone will try it and say it is out of the box, lateral thinking.

Now, with lateral thinking, you can still be 'different' and yet submit a photo that meets the challenge description. As for the paper on string photo, if you are aware of other cultural beliefs, you would have recognised it and voted accordingly. If you were not aware of its meaning, you would have considered it DNMC, not 'out of the box'.

Let's forget OOTB and try to adhere to the description given.
 06/12/2007 04:31:48 PM · #28
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by biteme:
I'd go for 2.


Why must one preclude the other? Do both.


Don't do both. There is an impressive list of excellent photographers at this site who rarely or only occassionally win ribbons. How sad it would be if they limited what they did in order to win ribbons more consistently.
 06/12/2007 04:35:28 PM · #29
Originally posted by formerlee:
I hate 'out of the box' entries. It is not a good idea, it is a lazy excuse for submitting a shot that doesn't fit the challenge description. If the challenge says photograph a brown horse, how can a black and white cow meet that challenge, but you can be sure someone will try it and say it is out of the box, lateral thinking.

Now, with lateral thinking, you can still be 'different' and yet submit a photo that meets the challenge description. As for the paper on string photo, if you are aware of other cultural beliefs, you would have recognised it and voted accordingly. If you were not aware of its meaning, you would have considered it DNMC, not 'out of the box'.

Let's forget OOTB and try to adhere to the description given.


This reminds me of arguments about God. Everyone has a different definition of Out Of the Box and whether or not they like it depends on their definition. But they argue with each other as though they were all working from the same definition.
 06/12/2007 04:39:09 PM · #30
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by formerlee:
I hate 'out of the box' entries. It is not a good idea, it is a lazy excuse for submitting a shot that doesn't fit the challenge description. If the challenge says photograph a brown horse, how can a black and white cow meet that challenge, but you can be sure someone will try it and say it is out of the box, lateral thinking.

Now, with lateral thinking, you can still be 'different' and yet submit a photo that meets the challenge description. As for the paper on string photo, if you are aware of other cultural beliefs, you would have recognised it and voted accordingly. If you were not aware of its meaning, you would have considered it DNMC, not 'out of the box'.

Let's forget OOTB and try to adhere to the description given.


This reminds me of arguments about God. Everyone has a different definition of Out Of the Box and whether or not they like it depends on their definition. But they argue with each other as though they were all working from the same definition.


Don, you know how I feel about this subject :) So, consider it as my little rant for today :) Plus, it might get some more opinions going.
 06/12/2007 04:44:00 PM · #31
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by biteme:
I'd go for 2.


Why must one preclude the other? Do both.


why should I? I'd rather work the way I want and please myself, instead of pleasing others :)
 06/12/2007 04:49:32 PM · #32
Originally posted by biteme:
why should I? I'd rather work the way I want and please myself, instead of pleasing others :)


Why can't others enjoy what pleases you? Why can't we enjoy and learn from the creative process while taking a photo from the heart that has wide appeal? Unless you have a fetish for pictures of roadkill or something, I don't understand the assertion that what we find personally pleasing can't also be appealing to others.

Message edited by author 2007-06-12 16:51:03.
 06/12/2007 04:55:41 PM · #33
oh!

NO!

Ofcourse! When others feel the same about my work, it's awesome. But first, I shoot for myself.

I'm working on a project at the moment, and I'm sure lots of people are not gonna like it. That doesn't bother me to stop the project and not to do the thing I love the most. And when it's done, I know I did it for myself in the first place. When others like it too, it will be even more fantastic.
 06/12/2007 05:01:50 PM · #34
Glad this came up because I did not do as well as I expected with this one for Double Take .. My thought was something similar in meaning not 2 of the same things.

Was I OOB or just wrong?

I did have some awesome comments and 3 favorites

Message edited by author 2007-06-12 17:02:45.
 06/12/2007 05:06:02 PM · #35
Originally posted by khdoss:
Glad this came up because I did not do as well as I expected with this one for Double Take .. My thought was something similar in meaning not 2 of the same things.

Was I OOB or just wrong?

I did have some awesome comments and 3 favorites


I don't think you're wrong. I just think it's a lot more subtle a message than is needed for the 2 - 3 second viewing.

Taking a longer look at the image I think would reveal the challenge connection better.

Nice duplication of the original though. ;o)
 06/12/2007 05:47:54 PM · #36
Inquiring minds want to know...where do I find the box I'm supposed to stay inside of for the 'Transitions' challenge? or the 'Pure' challenge? I sure don't know! What I think will happen is this--each photog will decide what the challenge means to him/her & then vote DNMC on every entry that isn't in his/her box. If staying in the box is important why aren't the challenges worded more strictly? & why isn't there a discussion ahead of the deadline establishing what the box is, exactly. If it's all about the box, maybe we should spend some more time on it.
 06/12/2007 05:49:15 PM · #37
Originally posted by pixelpig:
Inquiring minds want to know...where do I find the box I'm supposed to stay inside of for the 'Transitions' challenge? or the 'Pure' challenge? I sure don't know! What I think will happen is this--each photog will decide what the challenge means to him/her & then vote DNMC on every entry that isn't in his/her box. If staying in the box is important why aren't the challenges worded more strictly? & why isn't there a discussion ahead of the deadline establishing what the box is, exactly. If it's all about the box, maybe we should spend some more time on it.


I think there is enough people clambering to get onto the soap box already. I think it is time people took a breath and realised there is more than just one person in each challenge...and with that, more than one creative mind and opinion.
 06/13/2007 12:21:59 AM · #38
I'd go with 1...and a dash of 2

Message edited by author 2007-06-13 00:22:12.
 06/13/2007 12:29:01 AM · #39
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I based my "Religion" entry on a verse from a famous Anglican hymn: "All things bright and beautiful, all creatures great and small, all things wise and wonderful, the Lord God made them all."


lets not forget Hell, Robert :P
it's a crucial part of religion - the rewards and the punishments
 06/13/2007 12:33:57 AM · #40
No. Thining outside of the box does not appeal to the masses. :(

My 2 cents
 06/13/2007 01:19:46 AM · #41
I shoot for 1 and 2 which probably waters down my ribbon chances but in turn keeps my scores fairly good. When I get a top ten with an entry that also gets high marks from posthumous, JPR and the like I'm usually quite satisified.

Message edited by author 2007-06-13 01:20:12.
 06/14/2007 08:09:37 AM · #42
I think that cpanaioti hit the nail in that the 2-3 seconds that you give each photo is not enough. I say, do not let everyone vote on every photo! Make the 20% voting limit an upper limit as well, and show only those 20% during the voting period. That should increase the time spent per image considerably. Then, it'd be fun to have a final round where everyone votes on the top 20 photos from the first round.

Voting is such a chore, there are just too many photos to score...

Message edited by author 2007-06-14 08:10:34.
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