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11/18/2002 12:24:07 PM · #1 |
I think we should have a blurry challenge.... so that it is judged only on color and light... the most important parts of an image.
Everyone would hate it as I can tell from the comments on my macro; however, I think it would be fun and a good lesson in viewing an image for what it is meant to be. |
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11/18/2002 01:20:25 PM · #2 |
I have two problems with this challenge.
1. Those with lower-end cameras cannot manually focus, therefore cannot intentionally make something out of focus.
2. I disagree that focus is not an important aspect of an image. When properly applied, focus and depth of field are critical elements that draw the viewer's attention where the photographer wants it to go. I certainly don;t buy that focus is more important than color, since a large part of photography is black and white, where color has no relevance whatsoever.
-Terry
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11/18/2002 01:29:22 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Those with lower-end cameras cannot manually focus, therefore cannot intentionally make something out of focus.
even auto-focus cameras can do this ...
Mariachi
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11/18/2002 01:32:50 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by spiderman:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
[i]Those with lower-end cameras cannot manually focus, therefore cannot intentionally make something out of focus.
even auto-focus cameras can do this ...
Mariachi
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Hmm. It's a fine distinction, but I think you have confused "out of focus" with "camera shake" and/or "subject motion."
They can produce similar results, but are very different techniques' - )
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/18/2002 1:34:15 PM. |
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11/18/2002 05:06:26 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
1. Those with lower-end cameras cannot manually focus, therefore cannot intentionally make something out of focus.
I think it would be possible when you focus on an object by half-pressing the botton and then pointing to another (nearer or more distant) object.
Personally I would love such a challenge. It would be really challenging to produce an interesting photo just with light, shadow, colours and basic shapes.
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11/18/2002 05:16:36 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by mcmurma:
Hmm. It's a fine distinction, but I think you have confused "out of focus" with "camera shake" and/or "subject motion."
They can produce similar results, but are very different techniques' -
if the challenge is 'blurry' then all these means to an end are valid :) |
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11/18/2002 05:23:21 PM · #7 |
| So the person with the worst picture wins? Is that it? Blur can be a beautiful thing. But to intentionally throw a picture out of focus? I'm not sure I get the point here. |
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11/18/2002 05:29:42 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by stephan:
I think it would be possible when you focus on an object by half-pressing the botton and then pointing to another (nearer or more distant) object.
Not all cameras offer that capability. My old Kodak DC215, for instance, is a focus-free camera.
-Terry
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11/18/2002 05:46:31 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by mcmurma:
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Hmm. It's a fine distinction, but I think you have confused "out of focus" with "camera shake" and/or "subject motion."
They can produce similar results, but are very different techniques' -
if the challenge is 'blurry' then all these means to an end are valid :)[/i]
I keep worrying that my technique may be more a means to an accident.:(
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11/18/2002 07:24:06 PM · #10 |
| Nice idea, Brenna Kimi! What I learned in the last few weeks is, that DPC voters do not like blurred photos very much. Thats why I decided to submit an other shot than this one. But personally I like blurred photos a lot, let's make it a challenge! |
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11/18/2002 08:59:51 PM · #11 |
Blur is beautiful when it depicts motion. Out of focus fuzzy shots with no motion aren't pretty. They lack in technical ability. Also camera shake due to not using a tripod isn't usually pretty neither.
however, used properly blur can be a wonderful way to make a statement. |
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11/18/2002 09:57:41 PM · #12 |
| so we can have a motion challenge where you are supposed to use the motion instead of stopping it |
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11/18/2002 11:46:03 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Brenna Kimi:
I think we should have a blurry challenge.... so that it is judged only on color and light... the most important parts of an image.
Everyone would hate it as I can tell from the comments on my macro; however, I think it would be fun and a good lesson in viewing an image for what it is meant to be.
i'm going to have to agree with you. but only cause you stole all your expectations of what photography is from me. and i stole them all from elsewhere.
and yes. crappy cameras can and DO make blurry images. in fact, i want my friend's crappier camera because it makes better blurrier images than mine does. and mine's pretty crappy. (brenna's is worse.)
i think in the overall perspective of what makes an image important or powerful, focus and DOF are NOT as big as you people make them out to be. a completely out of focus image can be just as powerful as the most sharp, well focused picture you can imagine -- if it's used right. a blur can be interesting. over exposed light streaks can beautiful. negative scratching can be fun. jpeg compression can be artistic. all of those can also be REALLY REALLY freaking tacky, as well.
what you need to do is pay attention to the artistic intentions of the photographer instead of just saying "this is out of focus. 2."
think of it like the work of the painter jackson pollock. how strict was his control of the paint? he splattered it all over the place. and how many art critics just went "paint splatters. poor artistic technique. thumbs down." just cause he used the brushes "wrong" doesn't mean it's not what he meant to do, and that his painting weren't valuable pieces of art.
in fact, he's famous precisely because he challenged the conventions of the painting should be. and gave birth to the truely abstract.
so i think we should have an abstract challenge. dof and focus not neccessary. concentrate on color, form, light, and composition, not objectivity and focus. |
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11/18/2002 11:47:58 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
I keep worrying that my technique may be more a means to an accident.:(
Magic Mountain Coasters
accidents rule.
and i would crop that image to the lower left hand corner, in a vertically oriented fashion.
but that's me. |
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11/19/2002 12:22:43 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Arachnophilia:
Magic Mountain Coasters
and i would crop that image to the lower left hand corner, in a vertically oriented fashion.
but that's me.
I'll try it...do you mean starting in the lower-left and cropping out the stuff to the right, or the opposite (take away the mirror in the lower-left)? I might try a couple of those now...or maybe a long skinny panoramic crop...this one was really intended to be a snapshot documenting my vacation! Now look what you've started...
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/19/2002 12:20:21 AM. |
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11/19/2002 05:22:15 AM · #16 |
i meant, cropping it to JUST the lower left hand corner. but i suppose you could try other areas.
that area of concentrated light blur doesn't work with the repetition of the other lights. [edit: err rather it's just too distracting from it] but i thought the blur in the lower left was more interesting.
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/19/2002 5:19:35 AM.
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/19/2002 5:21:09 AM. |
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11/19/2002 05:33:28 AM · #17 |
i'd crop it about like this, but that's just my preference.
i'd actually probably crop it even closer (and more cleanly. i hate the way paintshop crops) than that. but i was too lazy to blow it up and then crop down, cause it's really late right now. |
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11/19/2002 07:59:28 AM · #18 |
Sometimes I enjoy a creative use of blur.
Here are a few blur shots I did that I like:
"Diaphanous"
"He's Coming .. "
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11/19/2002 09:18:43 AM · #19 |
Just wanted to agree wholeheartedly with Arachnophilia's post. I think there are some very good examples of interesting blurred photos posted in this thread (magnetic9999: the first and the third are awesome).
So while photos which contain blur to represent motion are one possibility for such a challenge, the examples show that there are photos which look good just "normally" blurred.
While surfing the web I also found this gallery, which in my opinion contains some very nice photos.
So let's have a blurry challenge!
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11/19/2002 09:20:19 AM · #20 |
magnetic9999:
Love Diaphanous! The whole "feel" of it is wonderful.
linda
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11/19/2002 10:57:09 AM · #21 |
I'd like to do a 'blur' challenge - I need to practice
panning and it would be a good excuse :
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11/20/2002 12:05:21 AM · #22 |
pssst. site admins.
come on, i'm game, i wanna do this one. i think we should. it would be an interesting change. |
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11/20/2002 11:18:44 AM · #23 |
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11/20/2002 11:47:07 AM · #24 |
Some of my favourites:
Lights
Stairs |
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12/01/2002 08:37:30 AM · #25 |
i like some of your other light pics better. show off some of those.
oh yeah. and bump.
hey admins, we want an abstract challenge. i haven't done abstract in a while, and it's what i really love.
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