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 05/11/2007 09:37:52 PM · #876


Day 9
 05/11/2007 09:43:12 PM · #877
Day 11: City Fox


05/11/2007 09:54:52 PM · #878
See, I told you I was catching up...
Day 8:
05/11/2007 09:56:53 PM · #879
Day 12 Creek Reflections



Message edited by author 2007-05-11 21:57:45.
 05/11/2007 10:18:04 PM · #880
xx

Message edited by author 2007-05-31 23:34:19.
 05/11/2007 10:23:47 PM · #881
Day 12

05/11/2007 10:23:58 PM · #882
DAY 12 ...

this image is missing something ..
like its a beautiful scene .. the composition is ok ... black & white seems to work .. but it just doesnt do it for me ... one of the things i do like that other ppl probably wont is the 'burnt out' sky ...
suggestions welcome!!!!!!!!


Message edited by author 2007-05-11 22:27:11.
 05/11/2007 10:25:28 PM · #883
Just curious how everyone is shooting out there and the advantages?
Right now I have been just using my camera's B&W mode every day. Are most of you converting from the color file or just using the B&W mode of the camera. What's the advantage of either?

I'm currently shooting RAW, so I do have the ability to go back to color.
I'm using Capture NX, but most here are photoshop it seems.

Message edited by author 2007-05-11 22:43:29.
 05/11/2007 10:31:18 PM · #884
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
Just curious how everyone is shooting out there and the advantages?
Right now I have been just using my camera's B&W mode every day. Are most of you converting from the color file or just using the B&W mode of the camera. What's the advantage of either?

I'm currently shooting RAW, so I do have the ability to go back to color.

I'm not participating in this challenge (though watching avidly), but for black and white, I use CS3's Black and White adjustment layer. I do a lot of black and white conversion, and really prefer it. Before CS3, I used Hue/Desat.
 05/11/2007 10:32:25 PM · #885
Due to the fact that I can't get out and about and that my camera in getting a quote for repairs, re my recent fall.

I am looking through all my color images that haven't been seen, or uploaded into my portfolio, and processing them to see if any are suitable for black and white conversuon. Some don't work out, and the ones that do, are the ones I am uploading here for you all to see.....

These are some of my favorites that I have converted from some of my color images. All are converted in photoshop re Image, Mode, then Greyscale or Gradient Map, which is the one I have used the most re processing to black and white.



Originally posted by jaysonmc:
Just curious how everyone is shooting out there and the advantages?
Right now I have been just using my camera's B&W mode every day. Are most of you converting from the color file or just using the B&W mode of the camera. What's the advantage of either?

I'm currently shooting RAW, so I do have the ability to go back to color.


Message edited by author 2007-05-11 22:40:26.
 05/11/2007 10:33:48 PM · #886
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
Just curious how everyone is shooting out there and the advantages?
Right now I have been just using my camera's B&W mode every day. Are most of you converting from the color file or just using the B&W mode of the camera. What's the advantage of either?

I'm currently shooting RAW, so I do have the ability to go back to color.

hi ...
i shoot in raw and do any exposure alterations in the raw program .. i then put file in photoshop, where i do an hue/sat adjustment layer and desaturate ... i then select the background and do channel mixer adjustment layer and play around with the settings there ... i select the background layer again and do another adjustment layer of possibly colour balance, or selective colour or brightness/contrast and play around some more .. and different blending modes can work as well ... it depends on the image as to wot combination will work .. i think everyone does this quite differently tho ... and lots of different approaches will work ...
i started converting to b&w in the raw program but a couple of ppl ie ursula & nixter told me i would have more options if i did it in photoshop .. and they were right ..
hope this helps ..
i dont know if you can revert to colour once you've actually had camera settings on b&w while shooting ... try it out and see ..:)

Message edited by author 2007-05-11 23:29:09.
 05/11/2007 10:51:00 PM · #887
Day 12


05/11/2007 10:51:55 PM · #888
12-
05/11/2007 10:59:02 PM · #889
Originally posted by roz:
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
Just curious how everyone is shooting out there and the advantages?
Right now I have been just using my camera's B&W mode every day. Are most of you converting from the color file or just using the B&W mode of the camera. What's the advantage of either?

I'm currently shooting RAW, so I do have the ability to go back to color.

hi ...
i shoot in raw and do any exposure alterations in there .. i then put file in photoshop, where i do an hue/sat adjustment layer and desaturate ... i then select the background and do channel mixer adjustment layer and play around with the settings there ... i select the background layer again and do another adjustment layer of possibly colour balance, or selective colour or brightness/contrast and play around some more .. and different blending modes can work as well ... it depends on the image as to wot combination will work .. i think everyone does this quite differently tho ... and lots of different approaches will work ...
i started converting to b&w in the raw program but a couple of ppl ie ursula & nixter told me i would have more options if i did it in photoshop .. and they were right ..
hope this helps ..
i dont know if you can revert to colour once you've actually had camera settings on b&w while shooting ... try it out and see ..:)


While trying to learn post processing, I printed Foto_man Forever's tutorial on B&W conversion and he lists various methods for conversion. The first of which is the de-saturation method and he says that is the worst since it leaves the image flat with no control for the contrast. The next method uses the channel mixer and I have a pretty good idea how to get those steps done, but to date I can only follow his adjustments to the letter. Additional methods use layers and thats where I get lost - to say nothing of Roz's multi step processing procedure...But, ROZ did leave a comment that will serve to motivate me to try more...maybe even figure out what she posted as her process for conversion.

I am posting this just so the advanced members know that some of us, who struggle, are watching and taking notes. When you post your steps, trust that I copy/paste to a word file and try to decode the language that seems to be just a bit over my head. Sometimes I can, other times I get lost...like trying anything new - it takes time.

I really enjoy the side challenges - this is my second - the comments and PM's are far more rewarding than any challenge I have entered so far. Even more motivating are the suggestions from recognized ribbon winners who take the time to help someone who struggles.

So there ya go - Isn't DPC a great ride...after I process and post an image - then get my first comment - that's what I say..."whew, that was worth the ride" ~~~grin~~~

... :) Deb
 05/11/2007 11:20:53 PM · #890
Here's my day 12

It's not my favorite, but it's what I ended up with.


05/11/2007 11:54:08 PM · #891


Day 11
 05/12/2007 12:00:16 AM · #892

Day 11
 05/12/2007 12:07:13 AM · #893
Day 12
Old Soul



Message edited by author 2007-05-12 00:12:28.
 05/12/2007 12:31:31 AM · #894
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
Just curious how everyone is shooting out there and the advantages?
Right now I have been just using my camera's B&W mode every day. Are most of you converting from the color file or just using the B&W mode of the camera. What's the advantage of either?

I'm currently shooting RAW, so I do have the ability to go back to color.
I'm using Capture NX, but most here are photoshop it seems.


Well, I've been religiously using Fotoman's method (the one that unfortunately is illegal in basic editing, but I LOVE the way it turns out!) of creating a first Hue/saturation layer and desaturating the colors all the way down to -100 (all the way). Then, I click on my background layer and create another Hue/Saturation layer, and change the mode to Color (that's why its illegal in basic). In that layer, if you slide your Hue bar around, it gives you all different lighting and looks for your black and white. I absolutely love this method. Unless I'm ever doing a basic challenge, I'll use this method exclusively from now on.
05/12/2007 12:36:27 AM · #895

Day 12
 05/12/2007 12:42:31 AM · #896
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
Just curious how everyone is shooting out there and the advantages?
Right now I have been just using my camera's B&W mode every day. Are most of you converting from the color file or just using the B&W mode of the camera. What's the advantage of either?

I'm currently shooting RAW, so I do have the ability to go back to color.
I'm using Capture NX, but most here are photoshop it seems.


I use a different method for each photo it seems. Most of the time it involves the channel mixer, but the settins vary for each and every photograph. I have found that it is helpful before you decide on which method to use to just click on each channel in the layers palette to see how that individual channel looks in b/w. Then I'll go in and change my settings. I have recently been toying around with negative numbers in the channel mixer, as well as the constant slider on the bottom of the window. Sometimes I use a different setting for the sky and for the ground, and then a complete desaturate layer on top to get rid of any remaining color from the mergins of the two masks. It just depends. The best advise is to find as many different techniques as you can, practice with them, branch off from them, and then build up an arsenal of tools and knowledge. Oh, and practice, practice, practice. And think b/w when you are shooting. You will take different pictures that way. I also shoot in RAW and have found it helpful to use the b/w setting on the camera to help me visualize the mono version, even though my RAW processor doesn't maintain any of the settings that I used in camera.
 05/12/2007 12:54:55 AM · #897
Day 12


05/12/2007 02:14:34 AM · #898
#10
05/12/2007 02:50:18 AM · #899
...still only 2 days behind...
Day 10:
05/12/2007 03:14:14 AM · #900
Day 11, sorry I still have no solid internet, all fixed by Monday. Got my new lappy yesterday evening, loving it already, too fast. but Lucisarts wont run on it yet...

Shot this yesterday waiting for my friends daughter at dance class

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