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04/30/2007 02:44:58 AM · #26 |
Hi, I'm Rob. I use PS CS2 (and Nikon Capture).
I've learned a lot about using PS here on DPC, but like Sue, I sometimes cannot achieve the same result twice (though I turned the "log" on so that I can always revisit every step I took in editing -- example: duplicate layer, delete duplicate layer, add layer mask, delete layer mask, add layer mask, curse, delete layer mask, add layer, and so on to infinity). So, I can "do" lots of stuff, but I'm really just a hack with no self-discipline when it comes to processing.
One thing that I get hit on in challenges and in posting to projects seems to be that my images are dark. Would it be possible to discuss getting yourself set up to start with (especially the basics of monitor calibration)? The hardware monitor calibration tools are expensive, so I have read and tried to use Norman Koren's tutorial, including downloading "Quickgamma", but honestly most of the time I just stare at the squiggly lines wondering what the heck I'm supposed to be making look the same or different or whatever. I ask because without this, I can make the prettiest looking images on my laptop, but if they're too dark everywhere else, that's not particularly helpful . . . so maybe this is "pre-photoshop" (maybe it even fits in this thread as getting ready)? Or maybe it doesn't fit at all (it's up "the Teach"). I also have no idea what color profiles are or why they're important (if they are).
I would like to go over Photoshop basics so that I can get into better work habits, and would really appreciate it if we can just mention the ruleset different things we are working on can be done under (so that I don't get carried away and get a DQ for doing HDR -- whatever that is -- in a basic challenge).
I promise to try to type shorter posts from now on (fingers crossed behind my back).
Rob
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04/30/2007 03:01:47 AM · #27 |
Hi Ken. Sign me up! I might be able to be a student and sort of play a mentor, too. My PS skills are pretty good at this point. I know how to use the tools; mostly I'm always learning more about when to use them.
In particular, I've gotten pretty good at adjusting contrast, changing colors, fixing perspective, sharpening, and using layer masks for lots of different reasons.
Edited to add: I also know how to create triptychs using different borders. :)
Message edited by author 2007-04-30 03:02:23.
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04/30/2007 03:42:08 AM · #28 |
Alrighty then - I'm probably not going to close the door on new people joining in, so anyone who has expressed an interest, feel free.
Those of you who expressed an interest in helping mentor as well - thank you - I will take you all up on it.
I haven't read all the posts thoroughly yet, but it looks like I will be able to put together some good topics and then pawn some of them off on the other mentors who are better skilled in those areas than me.
We'll need to determine as a group what topics should be deferred to the advanced workshop and once we feel we have covered enough basics, we can launch right into the advanced one with a new thread and those that want to drop off can and we can pick up some new folks along the way as well.
Let me say that I will try hard to make things coherent, but my overall process of editing images is haphazard, chaotic and mostly experimental, so I want to focus on specific, isolated techniques and then seems like it would be fun to put a final project assignment together as a "final" of sorts and hopefully everyone will be able to pull all the knowledge together and apply it as a collective means to an artistic end. |
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04/30/2007 04:21:56 AM · #29 |
| Looking forward to it, Ken, though I'm hoping we don't have to do Godzilla as the final.... probably best to save that for the advanced group. :-) |
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04/30/2007 04:39:30 AM · #30 |
Hi Art, I'd like to play too. Here's my info...
- What you feel your PS skill level is
Average
- Your version of PS
CS2
- Your desired guidelines for the workshop - i.e. focus primarily within basic and advance editing rules OR DPC rules should be secondary to learning Photoshop
not really interested in keeping within a ruleset
- Any specific lessons or techniques you would like to cover
blending modes confuse me, also knowing what I'm doing with curves, oh and using dodge/burn correctly
Message edited by author 2007-04-30 04:43:07.
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04/30/2007 04:47:56 AM · #31 |
Nuzzer -->> Average?? 
LOL! Welcome to PS 101, try to stay awake. ;-) |
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04/30/2007 05:37:03 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
My understanding was that wavelength has split out workshops and had one for PSP that was separate from Photoshop. So my intent was that this would be very photoshop specific.
That said, he didn't get anyone to mentor the PSP workshop and if you can translate yourself or get input from others who may have PSP, it's up to you if you want to participate, but I am still coming at this from a purely PS perspective. |
Art...there doesn't seem to be any workshops on PSP so if you don't mind I will try to translate. I have Paint Shop Pro Photo XL. My skill level is hmm..kindergarten. I never touched processing until I joined DPC in Jan. of this year. I've taught myself by reading posts and tutorials on here. Sometimes I just start playing with buttons and if I did something that I liked, I would have no clue how to do it again. |
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04/30/2007 05:41:47 AM · #33 |
No worries, Terry - it's not like I can lock the door anyway. ;-)
Originally posted by hipychik:
Sometimes I just start playing with buttons and if I did something that I liked, I would have no clue how to do it again. |
I don't know that this will change if you are trying to learn anything from me. :-) |
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04/30/2007 05:57:49 AM · #34 |
Ok, I have compiled a list of topics to cover that seem reasonable and cover most of what people are looking for in PS101:
- Using Photoshop - Brief overview of tools, tips, tricks & shortcuts
- Working with Selection tools and Masks
- Light & Shadows - An overview of the methods for adjusting lights & darks. Covers Curves, Levels, Brightness & Contrast
- Color Manipulation: Curves, Levels, Hue & Saturation, Color Adjustment
- Filters and Blending modes
- Global and Selective Color Adjustments
- Extraction / Background Removal
- Cloning, Healing and Blending
- Dodging and Burning**
- HDR, Tone mapping, Adjustment layers**
- Variables of viewers of your images. Covers issues, considerations, monitor calibration**
This is the order I would like to do them in also. The ones with asterisks I would like to schlep off on one of the other additional mentors:
 wavelength
simms
geoffb
levyj413
Can one of you guys volunteer?
There will be plenty of help needed on the other topics as well.
If everyone's ok with this, the first topic will be posted in the new thread late Monday.
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04/30/2007 06:01:41 AM · #35 |
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04/30/2007 06:18:12 AM · #36 |
| Think I'd almost wear plaid for that list of topics Art!!! Sounds great! |
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04/30/2007 06:22:59 AM · #37 |
| Hey Sue shall I save you a seat in the front row? |
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04/30/2007 06:31:30 AM · #38 |
| I'll bring the popcorn Charlie :D |
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04/30/2007 06:33:19 AM · #39 |
| Like it. Can't wait for the first assignment. |
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04/30/2007 06:34:17 AM · #40 |
| Lol with Art as the teacher we will need the popcorn! Meet you at the start of class and dont spend too long talking to the boys in the corridor or smoking behind the bike shed :) |
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04/30/2007 06:53:37 AM · #41 |
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04/30/2007 07:38:24 AM · #42 |
Can I join, too?
I have PS 7, but barely know how to do anything. I can use the healing brush a little bit I think (or is that the clone stamp? I'm not sure.). Anyway, I think I can also level a skewed horizon. That's pretty much it; and I'm not even sure I can do that much. I could care less about the DPC rules. Whatever you're teaching will be good for me.
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04/30/2007 07:49:59 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Post very briefly:
- What you feel your PS skill level is
- Your version of PS
- Your desired guidelines for the workshop - i.e. focus primarily within basic and advance editing rules OR DPC rules should be secondary to learning Photoshop
- Any specific lessons or techniques you would like to cover |
First Art/Ken/Art... uh oh I am confused already. :D Anyway - thanks for doing this!
PS skill level: Don't really know. I get by with not really understanding what I am doing. I have a basic knowledge of what things are called but I am not sure what all the tools do.
Your version of PS: 7.0
Your desired guidelines for the workshop: I'd like to learn how to use the tools and what tools work best to fix certain problems (saturation, sharpening). I'll take anything really.
Thanks!
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04/30/2007 07:52:54 AM · #44 |
This is a workshop I'd LOVE to participate in...
Skill level: Beginner to Intermediate. All self taught, know a bit of the lingo, but would still consider myself a learner! Oh, and I've only ever used PSP until 3 days ago, so know PSP reasonably well but new to Photoshop.
PS Version: CS3
Guidelines: Very easygoing - I know I'll learn from whatever is taught, so happy to be taught anything :P
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04/30/2007 07:55:33 AM · #45 |
[quote=Art Roflmao] Ok, I have compiled a list of topics to cover that seem reasonable and cover most of what people are looking for in PS101:
- Using Photoshop - Brief overview of tools, tips, tricks & shortcuts
- Working with Selection tools and Masks
- Light & Shadows - An overview of the methods for adjusting lights & darks. Covers Curves, Levels, Brightness & Contrast
- Color Manipulation: Curves, Levels, Hue & Saturation, Color Adjustment
- Filters and Blending modes
- Global and Selective Color Adjustments
- Extraction / Background Removal
- Cloning, Healing and Blending
- Dodging and Burning**
- HDR, Tone mapping, Adjustment layers**
- Variables of viewers of your images. Covers issues, considerations, monitor calibration**
WOW!
Message edited by author 2007-04-30 07:56:16.
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04/30/2007 08:11:24 AM · #46 |
What you feel your PS skill level is
I'm that bad if I was at school I would be in the class which had to use rounded end scissors
Your version of PS
PS6
Your desired guidelines for the workshop
For me personally I would just like to learn PS, afterwards I can then hopefully apply lessons within DPC rules as appropriate
Any specific lessons or techniques you would like to cover
Well for me it would genuinely be guide me from the very start to finish. However as you mentioned that workshops have already been printed, if you would prefer I will work through them so as not to hold anyone back
Jon
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04/30/2007 08:43:32 AM · #47 |
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04/30/2007 10:51:27 AM · #48 |
May I join the group too?
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04/30/2007 11:11:29 AM · #49 |
I just noticed this thread so I hope I'm not too late to join. This sounds like a great mentorship even if you can only get through half of what you're planning to cover.
As for myself:
What you feel your PS skill level is
I think I'm nearing an intermediate level of knowledge. I can use many of the tools, but some I only use for a certain purpose. Most of my learning is by experimentation with some internet research to find out how to perform a specific task or learn a specific technique.
Your version of PS
CS2
Your desired guidelines for the workshop
I use some of my photos to create digital artwork, so I'm hoping to learn things that go beyond the DPC editing guidlines
Any specific lessons or techniques you would like to cover
I'm looking to learn anything I don't already know about PS (which I'm sure is a lot) though my main interest would probably be on the use of blending modes/filters and where/how to use them to create certain effects. |
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04/30/2007 12:26:35 PM · #50 |
My photo shop skills are probably not as good as many on this site, but I have been following the radiant vista tutorials as much as possible, considering I only have elements and PSP7. What elements can't do I can get it done with PSP.
I know I need upgrades but when your off every six months the moneys just not there lol. So I just tag along, at radiant vista there was only a few time I could not do what they did, biut it did not mean I did not watch it. :-) |
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