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02/27/2007 02:41:14 AM · #776 |
Originally posted by crayon:
while you guys are getting too busy about this topic, kids are dying of hunger elsewhere, LOL |
... and the Marines are keeping the world safe for people who buy $6000 shower curtains ... |
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02/27/2007 03:07:16 AM · #777 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by crayon:
while you guys are getting too busy about this topic, kids are dying of hunger elsewhere, LOL |
... and the Marines are keeping the world safe for people who buy $6000 shower curtains ... |
ok, one last off-topic post before i stop - has anyone watched Blood Diamond? things like these are real, and is happening at this very moment, and will continue until they are found out and stopped. |
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02/27/2007 04:36:01 AM · #778 |
Originally posted by crayon:
while you guys are getting too busy about this topic, kids are dying of hunger elsewhere, LOL |
So you're trying to address an issue that *IS* important, and *DOES* need discussion by trying to take the focus off it why?
You don't want to participate, fine, but don't denigrate and belittle this topic.....and it's not laughable, either.
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02/27/2007 05:11:00 AM · #779 |
Originally posted by crayon:
ok, one last off-topic post before i stop - has anyone watched Blood Diamond? things like these are real, and is happening at this very moment, and will continue until they are found out and stopped. |
Hey, at least you admit that you're off topic!
That's growth!!
Now, let's try this slow.....O N T O P I C!!!
The gay rights issue is real, is happening at this very minute, and will continue to be treated poorly 'til people learn and understand what it's really about.
It isn't just about gay rights, it's about human rights and the right to live life without anyone else telling you what you can, and cannot do.
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03/15/2007 03:42:18 AM · #780 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
The gay rights issue is real, is happening at this very minute, and will continue to be treated poorly 'til people learn and understand what it's really about.
It isn't just about gay rights, it's about human rights and the right to live life without anyone else telling you what you can, and cannot do. |
if you live in a society, then you just got to adhere to that society's rules. the only way in which you can entirely "live life without anyone else telling you what you can, and cannot do" is to live on an island without anyone else. like gramps used to say, "you live under my roof, you follow my rules!". gramps was cool. |
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03/15/2007 04:34:03 AM · #781 |
i feel there has been great leaps forward in recent years, not too many years back i would have been burnt at the stake for living with my partner, but we do live together and have no problems. In the uk the labour gov. is doing a lot to improve things, which is why i will vote for them again. The world just needs a little time to get used to the idea. My partner is a teacher and he says the kids coming out of school today have a totaly different attitude.
this is a great thread with lots of emotion being shown. |
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03/15/2007 08:22:50 AM · #782 |
| Yep, thats right. Much of the world has gotten used to killing babies. |
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03/15/2007 08:47:11 AM · #783 |
| Vote General Peter Pace for President in 2008. |
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04/10/2007 06:28:46 PM · #784 |
This article on kids who are gender variant
is, perhaps, a good way to change the subject
from the previous post. |
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04/10/2007 10:50:10 PM · #785 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Yep, thats right. Much of the world has gotten used to killing babies. |
Not only is this response completely off-topic, but shows an amazing amount of ignorance on the subject of not only homosexuality and same-sex marriage, but also that of the sensitive issue of abortion.
Now, I know you to be a very conservative person in your views, but this response goes far beyond anything I'd have ever expected. Unbelievable. |
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04/19/2007 10:00:10 PM · #786 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Yep, thats right. Much of the world has gotten used to killing babies. |
Originally posted by Artyste:
Not only is this response completely off-topic, but shows an amazing amount of ignorance on the subject of not only homosexuality and same-sex marriage, but also that of the sensitive issue of abortion.
Now, I know you to be a very conservative person in your views, but this response goes far beyond anything I'd have ever expected. Unbelievable. |
This is why we have so far to go.
What can you say to this kind of mindset?
I am humbled and ashamed that I have to share life with this kind of senseless, cruel thinking....it's just mean.
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04/19/2007 10:12:36 PM · #787 |
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Maybe my responce would have been better understood if I had included the word "too", as in "Yep, that's right. Much of the world has gotten used to killing babies too!"
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04/19/2007 11:00:54 PM · #788 |
Yes indeed... that certainly puts things into context. Sheeesh!!!
Ray
Message edited by author 2007-04-19 23:30:18. |
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04/19/2007 11:44:30 PM · #789 |
I don't care if gay people marry each other. I'm all for it.
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04/19/2007 11:46:11 PM · #790 |
Now a question for anyone who is gay:
What if all states allowed gay marriages...and one day a gay couple got into a fight and one killed the other...then a year later, a gay couple got into a fight while driving down the road and they wrecked their car into a bus full of school children and 32 kids died...then everyone started talking about how gay marriages should be banned...
How senseless is that?
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04/19/2007 11:49:02 PM · #791 |
...the preceding message was brought to you by the Non-Sequiturs Society Of America: We may not make sense, but we like pizza!
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04/19/2007 11:54:48 PM · #792 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
...the preceding message was brought to you by the Non-Sequiturs Society Of America: We may not make sense, but we like pizza! |
TOO FUNNY... but then again, I understand French and love pizza. :O)
Ray
Message edited by author 2007-04-19 23:55:14. |
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04/19/2007 11:57:09 PM · #793 |
Way to keep a post on-topic guys, good one. :D
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04/20/2007 01:40:29 AM · #794 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
This article on kids who are gender variant
is, perhaps, a good way to change the subject...
from the previous post. |
Yes, I know I'm quoting myself. But. Let's get back at least close to the subject. If anyone in this discussion cares to wade through the fascinating article referenced above you will find a wealth of useful information.
I'll quote a couple of the concluding paragraphs:
Parenting a gender-variant child is challenging, Gloria says, not because there's anything wrong with the child "but because of how they are perceived, and how our parenting skills are perceived, and how our morality is perceived." But, she says of Tony, "We are blessed to have him. He has changed our lives. He has opened our eyes."
From her new vantage point, Gloria believes that gender-variant children need extra support because of the challenges they will face. "If we don't make them strong, they are going to fail. And the only way to make them strong is to make them feel proud of who they are. There is no other way..."
Sadly, even in my community the article ends with this:
Names, places and other identifying details in this article (including the writer's name) have been changed to protect the identities and safety of the children and their families. |
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04/20/2007 01:44:52 AM · #795 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Names, places and other identifying details in this article (including the writer's name) have been changed to protect the identities and safety of the children and their families. |
That's the saddest part of it all. |
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04/20/2007 02:25:12 AM · #796 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
...the preceding message was brought to you by the Non-Sequiturs Society Of America: We may not make sense, but we like pizza! |
TOO FUNNY... but then again, I understand French and love pizza. :O)
Ray |
so you like french fries with your pizza ? |
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04/24/2007 10:57:42 PM · #797 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Originally posted by sfalice:
This article on kids who are gender variant
is, perhaps, a good way to change the subject...
from the previous post. |
Yes, I know I'm quoting myself. But. Let's get back at least close to the subject. If anyone in this discussion cares to wade through the fascinating article referenced above you will find a wealth of useful information.
I'll quote a couple of the concluding paragraphs:
Parenting a gender-variant child is challenging, Gloria says, not because there's anything wrong with the child "but because of how they are perceived, and how our parenting skills are perceived, and how our morality is perceived." But, she says of Tony, "We are blessed to have him. He has changed our lives. He has opened our eyes."
From her new vantage point, Gloria believes that gender-variant children need extra support because of the challenges they will face. "If we don't make them strong, they are going to fail. And the only way to make them strong is to make them feel proud of who they are. There is no other way..."
Sadly, even in my community the article ends with this:
Names, places and other identifying details in this article (including the writer's name) have been changed to protect the identities and safety of the children and their families. |
That's a very sweet article, thanks for posting. Let your kid grow up to be what he/she was born to be. What a concept. Maybe there's hope for humanity after all. Some kids have the world's greatest parents. (That's right, more than one kid has the world's greatest parents. :P) |
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05/14/2007 09:16:02 PM · #798 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
The gay rights issue is real, is happening at this very minute, and will continue to be treated poorly 'til people learn and understand what it's really about.
It isn't just about gay rights, it's about human rights and the right to live life without anyone else telling you what you can, and cannot do. |
if you live in a society, then you just got to adhere to that society's rules. the only way in which you can entirely "live life without anyone else telling you what you can, and cannot do" is to live on an island without anyone else. like gramps used to say, "you live under my roof, you follow my rules!". gramps was cool. |
Heck yea! Damn those slaves wanting their freedom and go to hell all you crazy radical abolitionists that are crusading for them! GRAMPS says pick that cotton so do it!
Society is not a unchanging, perfect thing. Stop trying to stifle people who want to make it better. |
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05/14/2007 09:17:10 PM · #799 |
oh woops, did a drudge up a dead thread?
good. I can't believe noone addressed crayon sooner. |
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05/14/2007 09:47:00 PM · #800 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
I can't believe noone addressed crayon sooner. |
somebody actually reads what i post! :)
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