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 05/30/2003 02:36:48 PM · #1
Think it might be possible to bring back the speed challenge? My suggestion is to do it with a twist for once - no editing other than resizing (no cropping). I know some people will complain that those with better cameras, lighting, etc. have an advantage but they do to some degree anyways. I think it would be fun. It would force everyone to get it right in the camera and not rely on software.
 05/30/2003 02:59:21 PM · #2
This is interesting; I like it. I know I felt really jazzed when I started finding shots that I didn't need to do anything but resize to; it meant I was finally getting the hang of this whole photography thing.
 05/30/2003 03:00:51 PM · #3
I personally am not too interested in challenges were you can't do any post processing. I don't believe that with many images you can get it 'just right' in camera primarily because of the narrower exposure range and inherent softness that many cameras produce. While I prefer very natural shots the most, I feel that a certain amount of post editing is necessary even for real natural looking photos. The post editing of a photo is integral part of the whole process and shouldn't be discounted. I guess I am just uncomfortable with and don't really see the point of showing an work that is less then what it can be.

T



Message edited by author 2003-05-30 15:01:58.
 05/30/2003 03:15:52 PM · #4
Originally posted by timj351:
I personally am not too interested in challenges were you can't do any post processing. I don't believe that with many images you can get it 'just right' in camera primarily because of the narrower exposure range and inherent softness that many cameras produce. While I prefer very natural shots the most, I feel that a certain amount of post editing is necessary even for real natural looking photos. The post editing of a photo is integral part of the whole process and shouldn't be discounted. I guess I am just uncomfortable with and don't really see the point of showing an work that is less then what it can be.

T


Post processing is definitely an important part of getting perfect images. That's sort of why this challenge would be fun - skip that step. See how good you can do without it. I'm not a camera purist - I think post processing is wonderful. I think it's part of producing digital art. However, I think na challenge like this would still be really fun.

And the idea of doing it as a speed challenge means that no one who doesn't like the idea has to give up their regular weekly challenges.

Message edited by author 2003-05-30 15:16:34.
 05/30/2003 03:59:29 PM · #5
Couldn't say it any better myself Steve. I tried :)
 05/30/2003 04:50:02 PM · #6
I suggested this many months ago, but no go.I especially like the no cropping part. That way you have to make sure that you think about framing, background, composition before you snap the pic. Too many shots are made by radical crops, cutting out unwanted bg elements. Maybe to satisfy both, you could make adjustements to all except for cropping. That way, people with lower end cameras can still yield the best photo quality possible.
 05/30/2003 04:57:08 PM · #7
Originally posted by mariomel:
I suggested this many months ago, but no go.I especially like the no cropping part. That way you have to make sure that you think about framing, background, composition before you snap the pic. Too many shots are made by radical crops, cutting out unwanted bg elements. Maybe to satisfy both, you could make adjustements to all except for cropping. That way, people with lower end cameras can still yield the best photo quality possible.


...... or they could be "sister" challenges. Do them in tandem.
 05/30/2003 05:46:02 PM · #8
bump......while there seems to be a bit of traffic here :)
 05/30/2003 07:30:03 PM · #9
I like the idea of only cropping. It is in the true spirit of learning photography. It would really push people to get the proper exposure rather than relying on post-processing to tweak it. I also agree with Tim, however, I think it would be a great exercise.
05/30/2003 07:52:32 PM · #10
I agree with Tim. Why have a challenge where the images can't be as good as possible? Digital photography is all about post processing. I have heard the argument over and over again about how this would 'teach people how to get the most out of their camera.' I don't buy it.

05/30/2003 09:04:55 PM · #11
Hey, I'm a fan of post processing as much as the next person. I'm not real good at it mind you and I guess I'm not real good at photography either, for that matter. But I am here to learn and figured it would be good way to see first hand how the "better" photographers would approach this challenge. Pity some of the "better" photographers aren't up for the challenge. Me, I don't have a glowing average score to protect, so I guess it doesn't bother me to any degree. Cheers.
 05/30/2003 11:59:55 PM · #12
I feel people are too ignorant of how important post-processing is in FILM photography. They think because we are digital that we have a monopoly on post-processing and in "the good ole' days" of film cameras they didn't do all this "new-fangled" stuff with Photoshop. Not true! I think we would be surprised to learn what went on in the darkroom in the "good ole' days". I don't see any point in this type of challenge at all. This site already eliminates the type of post-processing that gives Photoshop gurus the advantage.
 05/31/2003 09:01:46 AM · #13
Originally posted by briphoto:
I feel people are too ignorant of how important post-processing is in FILM photography. They think because we are digital that we have a monopoly on post-processing and in "the good ole' days" of film cameras they didn't do all this "new-fangled" stuff with Photoshop. Not true! I think we would be surprised to learn what went on in the darkroom in the "good ole' days". I don't see any point in this type of challenge at all. This site already eliminates the type of post-processing that gives Photoshop gurus the advantage.


Never mind the old days of film photography... You'd probably be amazed at what they do in today's photolabs when processing your holiday pics. They don't process as is unless you tell them to. They adjust lighting, colour etc to get what they think is what you were aiming for when you pressed the shutter release button. Post processing in photoshop is the same as the post processing in a photo lab.... it's just alot more fun, no chemicals, no special lighting yada, yada, yada.
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