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11/24/2006 02:00:18 AM · #51

Originally posted by Bugzeye:

Definately try not to let the voting on this site get to you. It is hard at times because some people do vote with their eyes crossed and minds closed. But a great many do study the photos closely.

The other thing you have to keep in mind. Not everyone on this site lives in a location that has a million photogenic subjects around. Some live in rural areas where sunsets and flowers are the only good subjects available.

Like Mak says take it on the chin and keep on going. If you are as good as you say you are, You'll do just fine here.

Thanks a lot, Rocky! That helped. Cheers, mate!

colda

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

11/24/2006 03:56:13 AM · #52

Subject matter - if someone does not like what they see then this will affect their vote, and always remember that art is subjective

I have respect for the person that left this comment on my perspective pic:

"This is a very effective image. From my perspective the subject is repulsive. I don't want to be unfair, so I'm not going to rate it."

...but I also realise that many people of less integrity will have voted a one because they find the image disagreable.

I have come to learn over time that although it's really nice to do well here, dpc votes count for very little in the real world, that said the experience gained here is priceless :)

Darren

Grandad

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

11/24/2006 05:01:35 AM · #53

I made a decision the first time I voted on a challange, that I lould vote on every shot, or I would not vote at all, a shot has to be very poor, and not meet the challange before I concider a 1, and at the other end it has to be exceptional, and meet tha challange to get a ten, if the subject is not to my taste I try to just look at the quality of the work, and how well it fits the challange, if every one who finds it distastfull skips it, and the ones who like mark it high, it will score higher than it should, if it's the worst photo I ever saw, but fits the challange, I will give a two or three, for the effort to meet the challange If it does not fit the challange at all, I will mark no more than five, after all, there is no point in a challange, if it's not met. how borin is that.
Ken

Apple iPhone 5

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

11/24/2006 05:43:15 AM · #54

I give 10's to nudes, 1's to American flags and 5's to everything else.

DIVIAN

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5D

11/24/2006 05:56:33 AM · #55

Originally posted by jhonan:

I give 10's to nudes, 1's to American flags and 5's to everything else.

hehehe, thats funny, mate... dunno bout the nudes aspect (tho i can see your point:)). And about the American flag... isnt it funny how it can b found in most of the challenges , if not all? U can not go wrong with that... I am considering in having a Romanian flag in all my entries:) that would be cool hehe

SaraR

Sony Alpha a7R III

Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM

11/24/2006 06:24:42 AM · #56

Originally posted by DIVIAN:

thanks, mac, u are right, I am prepared to score low, I would not like to think I was a stock shot, commercial photographer. Let the other "Geoarges" bend over and get "scored". Cheers, mate!

eh?

DIVIAN

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5D

11/24/2006 06:47:48 AM · #57

Originally posted by SaraR:

Originally posted by DIVIAN:
thanks, mac, u are right, I am prepared to score low, I would not like to think I was a stock shot, commercial photographer. Let the other "Geoarges" bend over and get "scored". Cheers, mate!

eh?

there are some cartoons, dunno if u have it over there, guess they are pretty old, two goofy characters, one is supposed 2 b smarter, whenever the other one screws up, he is told, "bend over, george" and gets a kick in the arse...

11/24/2006 07:03:30 AM · #58

I have to do it! I have said nothing for so long. I think any one who gives a one or a two for a ribbon winner is either trying to boost his own score or just has no idea....either way they should be ashamed of themselves. I hope I feel better now, having got that of my chest. Apart from the frustration of receiving ones for good photo's I do actually enjoy the challenge....

silverscreen

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

11/24/2006 07:10:55 AM · #59

Originally posted by Tap10:

So what you are saying is, that it's not allowed to disagree with the majority of this site? The majority is always right?

Well, in my book it's perfectly OK if the winner pictures get low ratings as well as all the high ones. It's just like food: Lot's of people like oysters and think they are the best (rate them 10) - I just can't stand them and wouldn't rate them higher than 2 (tops)...

edited for typos

Message edited by author 2006-11-24 07:11:44.

11/24/2006 07:18:53 AM · #60

A good photographer recognizes a good photo. You may not particularly like an image but to give a well composed photo that meets the challenge a one is revealing something about the scorers character

silverscreen

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

11/24/2006 07:24:27 AM · #61

Originally posted by Tap10:

A good photographer recognizes a good photo. You may not particularly like an image but to give a well composed photo that meets the challenge a one is revealing something about the scorers character

So you know the definition of a good photo? Wow, that must be cool...

carodani

Canon EOS-60D

11/24/2006 07:25:25 AM · #62

a score under 4 is for photograps that don't meet the challenge and are poor technically too....

i cannot tell maybe if a photo is "good"... but if it is well executed yes

that's my "poor" opinion :P

Message edited by author 2006-11-24 07:26:20.

mist

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

11/24/2006 07:47:05 AM · #63

Originally posted by silverscreen:

So you know the definition of a good photo? Wow, that must be cool...

I can see what Tap is saying, which is that if a photo contains elements such as "meets challenge" "in focus" "well exposed", and gets rated overall as the best photo, it's hard to see how some people end up rating that photo as a 1.

That was the basis of my question earlier in this thread (or one of the other many threads about this) where I asked how people come to the decision. But I guess we will never know. "voting curves" is probably the most rational reason that I've heard, but I struggle to balance that with the photos that I've seen.

Traff

Nikon D200

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

11/24/2006 07:50:28 AM · #64

DIVIAN I think there are enough shots in a challenge to vote for the best 20%. I never gave a vote less than 5, why give some1 a 1 when u can appreciate other shots? If it is that bad it should not even b worth mentioning, right?

By way of an extreme and very hypothetical demonstration... if a photo was submitted that was blurry, small and failed to meet the challenge, and rather than vote low everyone voting decided not to vote on that image at all except for 1 person who decided it was a surreal abstract masterpiece and voted it a 10 - whoot - Blue ribbon winner with a 100% voting average.

Did I really just say whoot? - I'm spending too much time on american forums :)
(PS how do you do the quote thingy?)

Edit:..............................

Originally posted by silverscreen:

Try pressing the "quote button" in the top right corner of the message :)

Sometimes don't you just wish there was a button so you could change your username after asking a dumb question?
I'll edit this to my original post so as not to derail the current thread any further
thanks for the reply

silverscreen

Message edited by author 2006-11-24 09:20:12.

silverscreen

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

11/24/2006 08:19:02 AM · #65

Originally posted by Traff:

(PS how do you do the quote thingy?)

Try pressing the "quote button" in the top right corner of the message :)

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

11/24/2006 08:35:04 AM · #66

No I don't really know what a good photo is, i am having fun learning. I think all of us appreciate constructive comments on our photo's. A one with no comment is not helpful. It does however make for interesting discussion. Thankyou

David Ey

Nikon D80

11/24/2006 10:10:53 AM · #67

Originally posted by Tap10:

I don't think so. A technically perfect photo that nobody likes but meets the challenge should not score high.....and might even rate a bunch of ones. No one would recognize someone as being a good photographer if their work did not have the key element of 'hey, I like that' regardless of how well it met the criteria of a 'technically good photo'. If you like it, it might be a good photo. Just my opinion.

Message edited by author 2006-11-24 10:11:45.

Apple iPhone 5

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

11/24/2006 11:00:09 AM · #68

I'm still waiting for the opportunity to enter my technically perfect shot of 'Ping-Pong Ball on Black Background'

fotomann_forever

11/24/2006 11:04:16 AM · #69

Originally posted by jhonan:

I give 10's to nudes, 1's to American flags and 5's to everything else.

I start at 10 for a full nude and work the score back based on how much the nude subject is obscured.

The rest of the images I just click randomly around the 5 mark. :-)