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11/13/2006 04:18:41 PM · #1 |
In another thread, a few days ago, Dave Hill photography was mentioned. I went to the web site and was blown away by this guy's technique. Does any one know how he does it? Here's a link to the web site:
//www.davehillphoto.com/
Someone mentioned that it was HDR...but I don't see how it could be HDR...wouldn't the people have to sit still? This picture are too sharp for that.
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11/13/2006 04:23:09 PM · #2 |
His post in that thread
Originally posted by davehillphoto:
Hi guys,
Wow, I'm flattered by all this talk! I'm glad some of you like my work. I really can't share much about specifics, and I'm not a photoshop guru, but I am definitely down to discuss. I haven't used HDR or that tone-mapping stuff. I just recently heard about it, and it seems you need to bracket your images to do it well. That would be almost impossible when shooting humans! :-) In terms of cameras, depending on the budget, I use canon digitals and H1's; all prime lenses. Canons are SOOO fun and easy to shoot with, but the H1 files are crisp, edge to edge, and print bigger. Kinda a trade off. I'm a big fan of using lights, and I'd say the primary factor of how my images look is the lighting setup. Photoshop is of course crucial as well, but you gotta have a clean raw file to begin with. Too much processing can give you nasty digital grain, halos, all that stuff, which may look good on Flickr, but when printed on paper for a portfolio that an art director sees, looks like junk. I would totally suggest that new photogs spend less time on PS and more time shooting and playing with lights, and learning how to direct their subjects. As to the comment about $50k shoots... haha... that made me laugh. For sure my budgets have been getting bigger, but a lot of the stuff on my site paid peanuts. You really have to work your butt off; lots of sweat, set-building, hauling lights all over the place, day after day, for at least a few years etc. But that's part of the adventure, right!? Let me know if u guys have any more questions. Thanks!
Dave Hill
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11/13/2006 04:25:31 PM · #3 |
Was about to post that... LOL... welcome back mk... darn you ... :-)
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11/13/2006 04:25:59 PM · #4 |
Yeah she be fast and we be slow!
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11/13/2006 04:29:42 PM · #5 |
I read through some of the entries...but no one really has a definite answer. There's got to be someone at DP that knows how to do that. Some of Heida's old stuff had that look to it. But she's apparently not around any more.
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11/13/2006 04:36:03 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by chafer:
I read through some of the entries...but no one really has a definite answer. There's got to be someone at DP that knows how to do that. Some of Heida's old stuff had that look to it. But she's apparently not around any more. |
He already said that most of it is the lighting.
The rest is some sort of hybrid HDR or with "overuse" of sharpening and fill light. Looks a lot like some of the stuff that  Bear_music has been posting, especially his SP entry, so it can't be that different from HDR.
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11/13/2006 04:39:13 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by chafer:
I read through some of the entries...but no one really has a definite answer. There's got to be someone at DP that knows how to do that. Some of Heida's old stuff had that look to it. But she's apparently not around any more. |
It was pretty much shown that it could be done several ways. Use of fill light in RAW conversion, using the Shadow/Highlights adjustment (as I posted) or Tone Mapping (as Bear_Music and others posted). It really does depend a LOT on the lighting of the subject though.
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02/03/2007 01:38:29 AM · #8 |
it's LucisArt.
or if it isn't what they use specifically, the plugin can get almost exactly the same, if not better results.
pretty much the workflow includes: raw photo (assuming theres proper exposure, not out of focus, and great lighting) > apply LucisArt on the 3rd setting from the right, or whichever looks best > turn up the contrast > desaturate perhaps > print it out!
looks great on flickr, as well as on paper! |
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08/07/2007 09:31:42 AM · #9 |
I have tried various techniques in an attempt to duplicate the Lucisart Whyeth filter...this is the closest I can come and it still needs some more work:  this is the original
 this is my attempt at filter; this image is sepia...my setting on plastic wrap highlight was 4 in this image...needed a 2
Procedure was: 1. plastic wrap: highlight 2, detail 2, smoothness 8
2. high pass filter 100% hard light
3.hue/saturation 50% then reduce opacity until you get the color you want.
4.levels for final adjustment -midtone slider.
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08/07/2007 09:34:15 AM · #10 |
how about this? i have not tried something with a busy background though |
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08/07/2007 10:01:55 AM · #11 |
| Some of MAK's work reminds me of this. |
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08/07/2007 10:21:58 AM · #12 |
These were my attempts at something similar a while back...
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08/07/2007 10:25:27 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by chafer:
I read through some of the entries...but no one really has a definite answer. There's got to be someone at DP that knows how to do that. Some of Heida's old stuff had that look to it. But she's apparently not around any more. |
Look at his behind the scenes stuff. half a dozen lights per model.
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08/07/2007 10:50:30 AM · #14 |
| Id love to see some lighting diagrams/details for some of these, you can see some of the stuff in the behind the scenes stuff, but detail would be great. |
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08/07/2007 01:36:58 PM · #15 |
Double Speelight Bikini Shoot
That shows it. Its basically balancing your ambient light with your background and using a side flash for highlights.
You can also sometimes fake it in PS with a well exposed photo by making a B&W layer and setting it to Luminosity and then playing with the opacity, but that doesn't always work.
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08/07/2007 01:41:26 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by notesinstones:
Double Speelight Bikini Shoot
That shows it. Its basically balancing your ambient light with your background and using a side flash for highlights.
You can also sometimes fake it in PS with a well exposed photo by making a B&W layer and setting it to Luminosity and then playing with the opacity, but that doesn't always work. |
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08/07/2007 01:58:34 PM · #17 |
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08/07/2007 02:17:18 PM · #18 |
| I wonder what post processing went into those, they look pretty good, almost too good, for straigt off the camera. |
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08/07/2007 06:35:05 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by chafer:
In another thread, a few days ago, Dave Hill photography was mentioned. I went to the web site and was blown away by this guy's technique. Does any one know how he does it? Here's a link to the web site:
//www.davehillphoto.com/
Someone mentioned that it was HDR...but I don't see how it could be HDR...wouldn't the people have to sit still? This picture are too sharp for that. |
Is this what you are attempting to accomplish?
//gallery.photographyreview.com/showphoto.php?photo=80127&size=big&cat=500&ppuser=240176
If so I may be able to help.
Ben
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08/07/2007 06:51:42 PM · #20 |
| Thanks so much for posting this - he really is inspiring!! DID you see his model line up?? I wonder how he got his foot in the door. Can we talk about that?? |
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08/12/2007 12:36:13 PM · #21 |
he got his foot in the door with his agency - THEY had their foot in the door. I'm finding (thanks to listening very closely to Ben) that an agent is absolutely key to getting to these gigs.
You can only be good at so many things. Let the agent be good at the contacts, I'll be good at photography. What a great team!
Of course you need the rest of your team too. I saw a local "celebrity" photographer on the street shooting the other evening - he had 5 people assisting him. Looked like hair, makeup, lighting, personal assistant and a camera assistant rotating film and digital cameras into him.
Message edited by author 2007-08-12 12:38:23. |
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