| Author | Thread |
|
|
05/17/2003 09:30:10 AM · #1 |
If you could design your own digicam, what features would it have? Would it be the size of a credit card with a 24mm-500mm zoom? Would it be a DSLR? etc...
Or, if the camera you most aspire to have is already built... which is it, and why?
I'm curious to hear your responses.
|
|
|
|
05/17/2003 09:42:15 AM · #2 |
| The most important new feature they could put on a digicam would be to warrantee it for, say, ten years. My E-10 is off warrantee now and Olympus has a minimum charge of $395 US to even look at it if something goes wrong. I got this from their web site. So if something happens to it, I junk it. Not a good feeling. |
|
|
|
05/17/2003 09:50:53 AM · #3 |
These may available on some cameras, but not mine...
Built-in battery charging. Cable/remote release. Less shutter lag. Input port to capture image directly from the optic nerves... |
|
|
|
05/17/2003 10:16:16 AM · #4 |
If it were up to me, I'd combine the Fuji s602z and my Olympus C5050, then add a few more megapixels and zoom power. Shutter speed from 1/10,000th to 2 minutes. I'd increase the zoom power to at least 10x and the resolution to 10 MP. F# would range from 1.2 to 32. ISO from 50 to 1600. Dual CF slots should provide plenty of room for 200 pix or so at full res with 2G of available memory. It would take 4 normal AA batteries so you aren't stuck in proprietary hell as some of you know all about :)
I like the speed of the Fuji and mulitple exposure feature. I like the way the manual focus works as well. It'd have a hot shoe and a pc sync port. Filters and such would just screw right onto the end of the barrel. No more lens tubes!! I like the Fuji's LCD viewfinder.
As far as size, I like the feel of my C5050. I like where the buttons are and the way the menus are set up. I'd also like to see the image quality like that of my 5050. It does well with macros as is, so I wouldn't change that. The lens could be a little bigger and stick out a little further (it would have to with 10x zoom) and I think it would still be balanced and comfortable. The burst mode on the 5050 is cool, though it'd be nice to take 10 pics at a time in lieu of 5. The other sequential modes are good and I'd leave them as is. Noise reduction is a must for the higher ISO shots. I miss the "check" mode on my Oly C3000 where you have to hit ok to keep the picture as you're taking them. Going back after the fact is sometimes a pain when you're trying to make room for a few more shots. My 5050 has a sharpness, contrast and saturation control in the camera. A little post editing in the cam is a nice option too. (I can crop, but that's about it)
Just for Autool, it'd have a 5 year unlimited warranty and optional insurance for a flat fee up front in case you drop it in the lake or something.
So that's what I'd want anyway. I'll come back to the real world now... |
|
|
|
05/17/2003 10:20:28 AM · #5 |
I think the next generation digi cam needs to have a sensor that helps me decide what to point the camera at before i press the button.
|
|
|
|
05/17/2003 10:46:45 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by inspzil:
I miss the "check" mode on my Oly C3000 where you have to hit ok to keep the picture as you're taking them. Going back after the fact is sometimes a pain when you're trying to make room for a few more shots. |
ditto!!
I moved up to the S602 and I really miss the cancel shot option I had on my casio. Instead of canceling it you have to let it write and then go into review mode to delete it. It can be a time waster when timing is important.
|
|
|
|
05/17/2003 10:56:28 AM · #7 |
How about this idea - In the lcd, put a very thin layer of liquid that comes up to the center of the crosshares to let you know if you're level or not. It might let you know if you're still for that matter.
|
|
|
|
05/17/2003 11:08:25 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Aaron:
I moved up to the S602 and I really miss the cancel shot option I had on my casio. Instead of canceling it you have to let it write and then go into review mode to delete it. It can be a time waster when timing is important. |
Aaron,
On the 602 you can use 'preview' mode to give you a cancel option.
Originally posted by inspzil:
I like the speed of the Fuji and mulitple exposure feature. |
I want even more speed! Especially in burst mode where you seem to be sat for ages waiting for the 5 images to write to the card. It would be nice if single shot mode was returned as soon as the first image has been written. Shutter lag annoys me at times too, it needs to be absolute zero on an ideal camera.
|
|
|
|
05/17/2003 11:16:18 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by inspzil:
I like the speed of the Fuji and mulitple exposure feature. |
Originally posted by bod:
I want even more speed! Especially in burst mode where you seem to be sat for ages waiting for the 5 images to write to the card. It would be nice if single shot mode was returned as soon as the first image has been written. Shutter lag annoys me at times too, it needs to be absolute zero on an ideal camera. |
Your shutter lag is NOTHING on the Fuji compared to my Oly 5050. Of course my files are much bigger too... comes with the (5MPx) territory.
Really the Fuji has a good turn around from pic to pic. At least compared to my new or old Olympus. But no shutter lag is definitely a good selling point.
Message edited by author 2003-05-17 11:17:48. |
|
|
|
05/17/2003 12:25:02 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by bod:
Originally posted by Aaron:
I moved up to the S602 and I really miss the cancel shot option I had on my casio. Instead of canceling it you have to let it write and then go into review mode to delete it. It can be a time waster when timing is important. |
Aaron,
On the 602 you can use 'preview' mode to give you a cancel option. |
Oh ok thanks, but even with that it's still not the same. On my Casio it would save he picture if I didn't cancel it. on the s602 a button has to be pushed whether I want it or don't. (don't I sound lazy). . .I guess I'll get used to it . . it's a whale of a lot better than my casio any way.
|
|
|
|
05/17/2003 02:08:14 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by inspzil:
If it were up to me, I'd combine the Fuji s602z and my Olympus C5050, then add a few more megapixels and zoom power. Shutter speed from 1/10,000th to 2 minutes. I'd increase the zoom power to at least 10x and the resolution to 10 MP. F# would range from 1.2 to 32. ISO from 50 to 1600. Dual CF slots should provide plenty of room for 200 pix or so at full res with 2G of available memory. It would take 4 normal AA batteries so you aren't stuck in proprietary hell as some of you know all about :)
I like the speed of the Fuji and mulitple exposure feature. I like the way the manual focus works as well. It'd have a hot shoe and a pc sync port. Filters and such would just screw right onto the end of the barrel. No more lens tubes!! I like the Fuji's LCD viewfinder.
As far as size, I like the feel of my C5050. I like where the buttons are and the way the menus are set up. I'd also like to see the image quality like that of my 5050. It does well with macros as is, so I wouldn't change that. The lens could be a little bigger and stick out a little further (it would have to with 10x zoom) and I think it would still be balanced and comfortable. The burst mode on the 5050 is cool, though it'd be nice to take 10 pics at a time in lieu of 5. The other sequential modes are good and I'd leave them as is. Noise reduction is a must for the higher ISO shots. I miss the "check" mode on my Oly C3000 where you have to hit ok to keep the picture as you're taking them. Going back after the fact is sometimes a pain when you're trying to make room for a few more shots. My 5050 has a sharpness, contrast and saturation control in the camera. A little post editing in the cam is a nice option too. (I can crop, but that's about it)
Just for Autool, it'd have a 5 year unlimited warranty and optional insurance for a flat fee up front in case you drop it in the lake or something.
So that's what I'd want anyway. I'll come back to the real world now... |
Now if only you could photograph that concept of the perfect camera you could enter it in the Matrix challenge. What is reality anyway?
|
|
|
|
05/17/2003 03:56:04 PM · #12 |
Mine is already built, it is called the Canon EOS 1D.
Greg |
|
|
|
05/17/2003 04:26:57 PM · #13 |
I have been thinking about this since yesterday... I can't think of many functions that are not already available that I would like to have.
There are reasons that certain cams don't have certain capabilities though... there are basically two classes of digital cameras... there are the ones that are marketed to the average everyday home users and then the digitals that are geared towards the professional and professional wannabe markets...
The more money you want to spend, the more features you can get. The digital SLR market has been interesting since the release of the Canon 10d. Some of the other manufacturers have lowered their prices, but will there ever be a fully functional SLR for less than $1000? Dunno... maybe...
Traditionally, when a manufacturer releases a new model of an existing camera, they release it at the same retail price as the previous model. Canon seems to be the first manufacturer to release a replacement for an existing model at a significantly lower price.
What I would like to see is a digital slr cam with a 24x36mm sensor in the same price range as the current $2000 digital SLR cameras. This will bring the digital market more into the mainstream for the professional photographers. Nikon, Canon, and others are marketing their digital SLR cameras primarily to the professionals who already own their film cameras. These professionals already have bags full of lenses that will work on the digital SLR bodies...
As far as I'm concerned, all of the features of film cameras are already available in digital cameras, but at a price.
|
|
|
|
05/17/2003 05:24:14 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
What I would like to see is a digital slr cam with a 24x36mm sensor in the same price range as the current $2000 digital SLR cameras. |
Why 24x36mm? I think the manufactures can get very good results out of the smaller near APS sized sensors already. That means that you could use smaller optics (cheaper, lighter, easier to take with you) to get the same zoom effects or keep the lenses at the same price level but make them a whole lot better in quality. For a starter it is very interesting what Nikon is doing with their special Wideangles and Pentax seems to do something similar. High quality optics, much smaller, but equivalent to current 35mm aimed lenses.
We live in interesting times. :)
|
|
|
|
05/17/2003 05:44:15 PM · #15 |
1) I would like clean, noise-free, colors and all other important stuff the same; ISO 25 to 6400 at the max resolution. Great for action on bad light days, great for flashless indoor photography, great for very bright days.
ISO should be something like changing the shutter time. Nothing special should happen, no different dynamic range or contrasts, no noise, no change at all except for the increased light capture possibilities.
2) Next item on my list is image/lens stabilisation.
3) No noise from the camera. (no noise when zooming, no noise when photographing, just no noise at all. Already got everything turned of on the Fuji, but the AF-mechanism scares of insects and small animals).
4) Very fast AF, subject tracking.
5) High number of frames (8 to 10) per second with a large buffer.
6) Live histogram / hot spot indicators.
7) Lightweight, small, waterproof, should be able to take a blow
8) Must use NiHm AA batteries
9) Large review LCD to spot exposure accuracy
10) Use a prism, no mirror? Would make it easier to pan while using continous shooting, but what are the downsides?
11) Must have Firewire connection or USB 2
12) The CCD/CMOS should be free of moiré
13) Improved Dynamic Range, show what the eye can see
14) In DPC colors :)
|
|
Home -
Challenges -
Community -
League -
Photos -
Cameras -
Lenses -
Learn -
Help -
Terms of Use -
Privacy -
Top ^
DPChallenge, and website content and design, Copyright © 2001-2025 Challenging Technologies, LLC.
All digital photo copyrights belong to the photographers and may not be used without permission.
Current Server Time: 07/26/2025 06:20:10 PM EDT.
