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05/15/2003 03:19:45 PM · #1 |
This photograph below was taken handheld with a Sony F717 camera in fine mode (jpeg 2560 x 1920), automatic white balance, F8, 1/200 sec, iso 100, aperture priority, no in camera sharpening, no filters, 30.1mm (117 mm eq for SLR) focal length.
Post processing using PSE2 - resized to 640 x 480, USM set to Amt 100, Radius .5 pixels, threshold 25 levels, and saved at quality 10.
What else does it need? Better perspective on original shot? Different angle? A tripod? Exposure compensation (+- EV)? Different aperture (F stop) setting? Different shutter speed? Longer focal lenghth, shorter focal length? A polarizer or neutral density filter? A lens hood? More post processing such as cropping, color adjustments, levels adjustment, mode changes (Grayscale, B&W, sepia), etc.?
Tractor 3
What would you do to fix this photograph?
Bob
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05/15/2003 03:22:09 PM · #2 |
Question... you chose to shoot this in aperture priority at F8 (min aperture on the 717.) I'm just curious what prompted that choice?
I think some perpspective changes would improve the image... it doesn't have much sense of depth. It's a rather flat and literal view...
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05/15/2003 03:27:33 PM · #3 |
| the technical aspects of the photo are fine (focus, aperature, exposure). I think the main problem with the image is that it is bland and doesn't convey much feeling. I think the easiest way to fix this would be to shoot from a different angle. I'm not sure what angle would be the best, but I would walk around and take many shots from different ones. I like how the tractor is framed well by the smaller part of the barn, but don't really like where the other half of the barn is cut off. I would try some close up shots which could use the techtures of the barn and tractor to your advantage, shots from more of an angle so you see more than the side of the tractor, and some farther off more vertically angled shots to include some sky which will give more of a feeling for where the subject is. For this photo, without a reshoot, I think it would do well with a little more color, and more distinct levels, or possibly do a duotone or sepia on it to give it an old feeling. I would also crop out the grass at the bottom. It might be cool to take the shot you had from a little lower so the grass is in it more (and get it focused) and also zoom or walk back a little to include more sky and the top of the barn. Well, that's a lot. Take your pick. It's a nice subject and would be really cool in a storm. |
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05/15/2003 03:31:06 PM · #4 |
First off, I'm definitely no expert, but...
I don't think your perspective or composition does the tractor justice here. The lines of the building, both the beams and the roofline, really confine the subject and the details and unique character of the tractor seem to get lost as a result. For instance, the exhaust lines up almost perfectly with part of the barn, and is nearly invisible (unless you're specifically looking for it).
I would definitely would try approaching from another perspective, or if you still want to pursue this perspective, shoot the tractor with another backdrop.
I think sepia would be a nice finishing touch. However, the color would also look nice if deeply saturated. You obviously want to keep the photo as realistic as possible, but perhaps you could underexpose the shot a bit and then play with it from there. |
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05/15/2003 03:33:38 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Question... you chose to shoot this in aperture priority at F8 (min aperture on the 717.) I'm just curious what prompted that choice?
I think some perpspective changes would improve the image... it doesn't have much sense of depth. It's a rather flat and literal view... |
I wanted clarity throughout the photograph. What mode would you have suggested with your F707? How would you have set up your camera, John?
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05/15/2003 03:40:11 PM · #6 |
| Let's face it, you have not chosen the most interesting subject. It looks like you took it at high noon with the shadow causing a dark hole just beneath the tractor. You took it absulutely straight on, eliminating any depth to the picture with every thing coming out flat. Even a picture of the tractor which was taken trying to sell it would have more to show the viewer. If you are wanting the viewer to see a straight on flat picture you have succeded and there is nothing more needed. If you want them to see picture with depth, and more interest, then you need to take it at an angle that will give depth and or in a way that will generate more interest. If time allows play with the scene with depth and interest in mind and see what you come up with. Whatever you do make it fun. Good luck. |
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05/15/2003 03:46:27 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by RLS:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Question... you chose to shoot this in aperture priority at F8 (min aperture on the 717.) I'm just curious what prompted that choice?
I think some perpspective changes would improve the image... it doesn't have much sense of depth. It's a rather flat and literal view... |
I wanted clarity throughout the photograph. What mode would you have suggested with your F707? How would you have set up your camera, John? |
I can't tell you muich about how I would have composed it because I can't see what else is available in the scene...
Based on your image, i would have underexposed the image by about 1 stop or so to pump up the contrast a little. since your subject area is basically flat, depth of field is not a reall issue. F2 would have given you just as clear a shot as F8 did in this scene.
Just for kicks, i would suggest a very low angle shot from the left front corner of the tractor with the barn behind it....
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05/15/2003 05:16:41 PM · #8 |
Don't know if I made it better or worse in your opinion, but I played around a little bit..
I did some selective blur to give it more depth. I think that F8 wasn't a good choice. I also cropped it. I likt that one better, because it concentrates on the tractor. But the genral composition isn't that bad I think, the tractor goes right up to the roof ofthe barn and not over it. From a lower a angle the roof "line" would go through the tractor. The Black&White also fits more in my opinion.
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05/15/2003 05:20:22 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by RLS:
This photograph below was taken handheld with a Sony F717 camera in fine mode (jpeg 2560 x 1920), automatic white balance, F8, 1/200 sec, iso 100, aperture priority, no in camera sharpening, no filters, 30.1mm (117 mm eq for SLR) focal length.
Post processing using PSE2 - resized to 640 x 480, USM set to Amt 100, Radius .5 pixels, threshold 25 levels, and saved at quality 10.
What else does it need? Better perspective on original shot? Different angle? A tripod? Exposure compensation (+- EV)? Different aperture (F stop) setting? Different shutter speed? Longer focal lenghth, shorter focal length? A polarizer or neutral density filter? A lens hood? More post processing such as cropping, color adjustments, levels adjustment, mode changes (Grayscale, B&W, sepia), etc.?
Tractor 3
What would you do to fix this photograph?
Bob |
Hi Bob,
I like the angle straight on. I saw your photo and started playing around with it. It's an interesting picture. It looks cool(to me)in black & white with the contrast boosted high, cropped, and sharpened.
Hope this was okay to post.....
If it were mine, this would be my fix.... |
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05/15/2003 05:28:36 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by connie:
Originally posted by RLS:
This photograph below was taken handheld with a Sony F717 camera in fine mode (jpeg 2560 x 1920), automatic white balance, F8, 1/200 sec, iso 100, aperture priority, no in camera sharpening, no filters, 30.1mm (117 mm eq for SLR) focal length.
Post processing using PSE2 - resized to 640 x 480, USM set to Amt 100, Radius .5 pixels, threshold 25 levels, and saved at quality 10.
What else does it need? Better perspective on original shot? Different angle? A tripod? Exposure compensation (+- EV)? Different aperture (F stop) setting? Different shutter speed? Longer focal lenghth, shorter focal length? A polarizer or neutral density filter? A lens hood? More post processing such as cropping, color adjustments, levels adjustment, mode changes (Grayscale, B&W, sepia), etc.?
Tractor 3
What would you do to fix this photograph?
Bob |
Hi Bob,
I like the angle straight on. I saw your photo and started playing around with it. It's an interesting picture. It looks cool(to me)in black & white with the contrast boosted high, cropped, and sharpened.
Hope this was okay to post.....
If it were mine, this would be my fix.... |
Nice rework Connie...
Bob
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05/15/2003 05:38:50 PM · #11 |
stephen~it looks like one of those old 3-d picture books.
I liked the first 2 pictures you posted in the other thread. The angle on this one is like a snapshot. Keep trying.
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05/15/2003 06:12:30 PM · #12 |
I enriched the colors a bit on this one and added some lighting effects:
And desaturated all but the red here.
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05/15/2003 07:29:13 PM · #13 |
| definitely clone the power/phone line out of the picture |
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05/16/2003 01:11:28 AM · #14 |
RLS, I think there is too much "noise" in the picture.... Noise being the sky and trees, and all the grass in front of the tractor. The absolutely easiest thing to do from where you were for the shot is, zoom in a little and take another shot. Then zoom in a little further and take another. Then walk to the left, zoom out, take a pic, and start over (zooming in for each one).
Then think about how you can "expliot" the surroundings to make the subject more interesting, and take advantage of that. From what I can see, the fence and barn could be better used for that. Then like Setzler and others mentioned, use your apprature setting to get the background more or less in focus depending on how it will enahnce the overall shot given the perspective you are using.
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05/16/2003 01:14:20 AM · #15 |
Thanks everybody. I'll take the feedback to heart next time I'm out shooting country photos.
Bob
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