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10/26/2006 12:53:56 AM · #76 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
[quote=vtruan]
Vtruan, your opinion might be that people don't know what it is, but I bet that some people you so confidently declared "have no clue" met at least one of the 10,000 definitions floating around. |
I was blasted on Boken I, so I learned about this subject, and have improved on each Boken since, so bring on Boken IV. :) |
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10/26/2006 12:56:11 AM · #77 |
HAHA I just got a PM about calling someones pic Not bokeh.. well it wasnt bokeh to me lol Maybe Ill get another 20 more?
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10/26/2006 12:58:39 AM · #78 |
Originally posted by kelli_K:
This was my first challenge. I just joined the site and am learning to use PS. I find the negative comments helpful. I wish the site would explain what bokeh is for beginners this would helpful. I truely want to learn...thank you all for the comments. |
That would be a great book. "Bokeh for Begginers, DPC's Guide to better bokeh" |
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10/26/2006 01:00:33 AM · #79 |
Originally posted by kelli_K:
This was my first challenge. I just joined the site and am learning to use PS. I find the negative comments helpful. I wish the site would explain what bokeh is for beginners this would helpful. I truely want to learn...thank you all for the comments. |
Hi Keli welcome to DPC.
This is the best description of BoKeh I have found but it is a very contentious topic not just on DPC but with all photographers.
From Wiki:
"Bokeh (from the Japanese boke ‚ڂ¯, "blur"[1]) is a photographic term describing the subjective aesthetic qualities of out-of-focus areas in an image produced by a camera lens. For example, causing an out-of-focus background image may reduce distractions and emphasize the primary subject."
Good luck and have fun.
Message edited by author 2006-10-26 01:16:35. |
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10/26/2006 01:06:31 AM · #80 |
| Thank you. I appreciate the information. Maybe I can improve on the next bokeh challenge. I received three comments and two talked about my background distracting from my photo. Thanks!! |
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10/26/2006 05:26:01 AM · #81 |
Originally posted by vtruan:
Originally posted by levyj413:
[quote=vtruan]
Vtruan, your opinion might be that people don't know what it is, but I bet that some people you so confidently declared "have no clue" met at least one of the 10,000 definitions floating around. |
I was blasted on Boken I, so I learned about this subject, and have improved on each Boken since, so bring on Boken IV. :) |
What's up with that "boken"?
You were right in a comment though, my pic doesn't have any "boken". Frankly, your comment left me with a big "what are you talking about?". Thanks for the comment anyway, I appreciate the time you put into it.
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10/26/2006 06:24:38 AM · #82 |
I really liked this picture:
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I think this deserves a [deleted] and so I voted. :)
Message edited by Manic - dont link to voting image pages or reveal scores. |
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10/26/2006 06:26:46 AM · #83 |
Originally posted by tlenat:
I really liked this picture:
I think this deserves a [deleted] and so I voted. :) |
We are not supposed to post any picture in a current challenge.
Message edited by Manic - dont quote posts to voting pages or votes either. |
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10/26/2006 02:43:35 PM · #84 |
| oops... sorry for my post... didn't think was so bad :( |
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10/26/2006 02:56:54 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by smurfguy:
I haven't been around too long, but I think I'm about to get my first sub-5 score! |
Hah! I must be better than you. I earned my first sub-5 score on my very first entry.
Keep trying and work hard and you will earn as many sub-5 scores as me.
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10/26/2006 03:51:25 PM · #86 |
Originally posted by elwoodsplace:
Some guy told me that "bokeh is not dof" and said DNMC (nevermind that almost 90% of my image is bokeh), and typed out a link to, of all things, an article by Ken Rockwell. |
Yea - I got that one too... :)
...and according to Mr. Rockwell it might be true - but I could find a lot of links to other pages with different definitions about what bokeh is.
Maybe the problem is that the word "bokeh" is too abstract for people?
Maybe we should call it something entirely different - my suggestion would be:
"OQOTOOFAITP"
short for:
"Overall Quality Of The Out Of Focus Areas In The Picture"
Nothing about circles or donuts or anything like that. Much simpler to define and to understand.
Let's start a revolution - "bokeh" is out, "OQOTOOFAITP" is in :-)
Edited for typos
Message edited by author 2006-10-26 16:02:18.
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10/26/2006 03:54:57 PM · #87 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by smurfguy:
I haven't been around too long, but I think I'm about to get my first sub-5 score! |
Hah! I must be better than you. I earned my first sub-5 score on my very first entry.
Keep trying and work hard and you will earn as many sub-5 scores as me. |
You mean you can get scores above 5???? I was inducted into the sub-5 score club on all three of my first three challenges. :)
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10/26/2006 03:57:53 PM · #88 |
Originally posted by silverscreen:
"OQOTOOFAITP" |
Too hard to say. ;) |
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10/26/2006 04:19:25 PM · #89 |
the word "bokeh " is too abstract, subjective, confusing , etc. I like your suggestion. I thought I had a pretty good entry for the current bokeh challenge , but I can't break 5. It's fun anyway.Originally posted by silverscreen:
Originally posted by elwoodsplace:
Some guy told me that "bokeh is not dof" and said DNMC (nevermind that almost 90% of my image is bokeh), and typed out a link to, of all things, an article by Ken Rockwell. |
Yea - I got that one too... :)
...and according to Mr. Rockwell it might be true - but I could find a lot of links to other pages with different definitions about what bokeh is.
Maybe the problem is that the word "bokeh" is too abstract for people?
Maybe we should call it something entirely different - my suggestion would be:
"OQOTOOFAITP"
short for:
"Overall Quality Of The Out Of Focus Areas In The Picture"
Nothing about circles or donuts or anything like that. Much simpler to define and to understand.
Let's start a revolution - "bokeh" is out, "OQOTOOFAITP" is in :-)
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10/26/2006 04:45:47 PM · #90 |
Originally posted by patio127:
the word "bokeh " is too abstract, subjective, confusing , etc. I like your suggestion. |
It's Japanese, no? Bo ke. The "h" was added by the guy who coined the phrase to assist westerners in pronouncing it. |
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10/26/2006 04:50:12 PM · #91 |
Originally posted by patio127:
the word "bokeh " is too abstract, subjective, confusing , etc. I like your suggestion. I thought I had a pretty good entry for the current bokeh challenge , but I can't break 5. It's fun anyway. |
I am right there with you patio. I have received some very positive comments but I have also been told my photo has no bokeh at all. This is simply in accurate. By all definitions bokeh is the subjective qualities of out-of-focus areas in an image produced by a camera lens. So my photo does have bokeh. A more accurate criticism would have been that my photo is a poor use of bokeh. But it really does not matter. I am having fun. I new when I entered my photo that it would not do very well. This is my favorite photo out of the 4 challenges I have entered and I thing this one will garner the lowest score of the 4.
Votes: 120
Views: 152
Avg Vote: 4.4583
Comments: 6
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Message edited by author 2006-10-26 16:50:50. |
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10/26/2006 05:37:57 PM · #92 |
| So does a 7.1 win this one again? Seems like you need a 7.8 to win lately. I didn't see any 7.8's in the group. |
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10/26/2006 05:44:37 PM · #93 |
| Yeah, my 'boken' is not good enough either :( |
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10/26/2006 05:45:42 PM · #94 |
| we should call this a DOF challenge and not bokeh, i believe it would be a lil less abstract and confusing for people. This seems to be an extremely subjective term... |
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10/26/2006 05:55:04 PM · #95 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by Raziel:
I don't have any comments at all... |
If you can go a whole challenge without any, I have a ribbon for that. :-) (See my portfolio page) |
Finally got a comment... |
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10/26/2006 05:59:00 PM · #96 |
Originally posted by tapeworm_jimmy:
we should call this a DOF challenge and not bokeh, i believe it would be a lil less abstract and confusing for people. This seems to be an extremely subjective term... |
But it isn't (or shouldn't) be a depth of field challenge. It's an out of focus challenge... |
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10/26/2006 06:13:34 PM · #97 |
Originally posted by boomtap:
So does a 7.1 win this one again? Seems like you need a 7.8 to win lately. I didn't see any 7.8's in the group. |
Depends on if you're looking for Bokeh or Boken! :>)! |
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10/26/2006 06:15:39 PM · #98 |
Originally posted by banmorn:
Originally posted by boomtap:
So does a 7.1 win this one again? Seems like you need a 7.8 to win lately. I didn't see any 7.8's in the group. |
Depends on if you're looking for Bokeh or Boken! :>)! |
Or Boken Bokeh!!! Hehehehe!!
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10/26/2006 06:17:32 PM · #99 |
Great comments (including a coveted Jutilda!)
Great Bokeh (according to the comments)
And I sit and watch the score very slowly drop. 5.8...5.6...5.5....
I may have to stop looking :)
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10/26/2006 07:42:00 PM · #100 |
Originally posted by boomtap:
So does a 7.1 win this one again? Seems like you need a 7.8 to win lately. I didn't see any 7.8's in the group. |
Wait, wait... hold on... you must not have seen my entry yet. ;)
For the record, I've voted on 30% (132) of the entries and have given out 17 10s, and you mean to say there isn't a 7.8 in this group? I must really be screwing up.
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