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10/12/2006 03:18:44 PM · #1
Bit of a long shot this one, but some of you might be the sort of person to have a good idea or two.

Basically, despite my ISP's filtering, my spam load is getting a bit ridiculous lately. Mostly it's stuff to random addresses like sdkflsdjfsk@myhost or stuff based around existing email names but with letters. I'll not go in to why I can't just reject unknown names because it's long and not really the point.

Does anyone know any good spam-filter software for pop3 accounts. Ideally it needs to be independant of your email software, and work without too much manual intervention.
10/12/2006 03:26:47 PM · #2
I use SpamFighter, it works very well, but it's for Outlook, very easy to use... :)
10/12/2006 03:36:15 PM · #3
Originally posted by Dax-:

I use SpamFighter, it works very well, but it's for Outlook, very easy to use... :)


Looks alright, but I don't use Outlook, so it's a dead end.
10/12/2006 03:39:04 PM · #4
I just downloaded "Spamihilator" and I'm interested to see how well it works. I'm EXTREMELY sick and tired of spam, and will be keeping an eye on this thread to see what suggestions people have.

You can get the program I just mentioned at //www.spamihilator.com/

It's free!
10/12/2006 03:43:02 PM · #5
Originally posted by alanfreed:


You can get the program I just mentioned at //www.spamihilator.com/

It's free!


Well now. You even used the magic words ;)
10/12/2006 03:46:02 PM · #6
I'm anxious to see how this program works out. My initial impression (from these last 15 minutes...) is good! I like the fact that it can "learn" what is and isn't spam. We'll see how it goes. It seems to be rather aggressive, so I might have to try to tone it down a little.
10/12/2006 03:57:30 PM · #7
Originally posted by alanfreed:

I'm anxious to see how this program works out. My initial impression (from these last 15 minutes...) is good! I like the fact that it can "learn" what is and isn't spam. We'll see how it goes. It seems to be rather aggressive, so I might have to try to tone it down a little.


Aye. I've just installed it. It's already picked out one piece of spam, and identified another as spam, which was actually a (legit) mailing list item. I've added the legit address to the "friends", so hopefully next time it will come straight through.

This definitely has promise though. It even works with my non-standard email client and the anti-virus email filter. Grand.
10/13/2006 04:24:11 AM · #8
This is great. After a day, I've actually turned up the harshness. The learning filter seems to be working well enough, but I think that I might be able to use this program to allow a "white list" for known good stuff and just deny everything else. Then it can sit in the recycle bin until I check it every so often.
10/13/2006 08:41:54 AM · #9
I've been impressed with it, too! Woooo!
10/13/2006 09:50:36 AM · #10
I use spammotel.com, simply speaking it hides your real email and forwards all emails to your real mail hence one can have many emails created with one email.

One can use these spammotel emails anywhere eg, i have been using it DP Challenge and if you get spam, simply delete and create new one.
10/16/2006 09:06:47 PM · #11
Originally posted by alanfreed:

I've been impressed with it, too! Woooo!


I've been running it now for three days on my machine, and 2 days on my wife's. After teaching it for two days on my machine, it is catching around 85% and is improving fast. It has marked a few legit emails as spam, mostly because they *were* commercial emails and it had no way to know they were ones I preferred to receive. Overall, I am impressed.
10/16/2006 09:41:57 PM · #12
My results are similar... it keeps getting better the more I train it. I get upwards of 150 spams a day (which I know for a fact since this program keeps tabs on them), and already it's letting very few slip by. I'll keep on training it for some time, and I'll worry less and less about legit mail getting tagged.

I also downloaded a few more of the plug-ins, and they seem to be very helpful, too!
10/16/2006 09:46:36 PM · #13
I am completely impressed with SpamEater Pro.
10/16/2006 09:52:42 PM · #14
I'd be semi-interested in trying this one... but I have to admit that I have a hang-up with the idea of paying to get rid of spam. I just can't bring myself to pay to get rid of something I didn't want in the first place (guess I hope I never get termites at my house).

I can't help but picture a big building that has a big sign out front for the Anti-Spam Company, Inc. Inside the building are all these programmers working hard to produce their spam-fighting software, giving the appearance of a friendly, legit company.

Meanwhile, hidden down in the basement with one of those pull-chain lights, is a group of spam authors, raking in money for the other "secret" side of the same company, with the programmers giving the guys upstairs the occasional clues about how the software can fight their activities.

Know what I mean?

I'm not trying to slam John's post... don't get me wrong -- I'm sure it's a good product. I just can't help but think these thoughts when I imagine buying anti-spam products. :)

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

I am completely impressed with SpamEater Pro.
10/16/2006 09:56:59 PM · #15
Originally posted by alanfreed:

I'd be semi-interested in trying this one... but I have to admit that I have a hang-up with the idea of paying to get rid of spam. I just can't bring myself to pay to get rid of something I didn't want in the first place (guess I hope I never get termites at my house).

I can't help but picture a big building that has a big sign out front for the Anti-Spam Company, Inc. Inside the building are all these programmers working hard to produce their spam-fighting software, giving the appearance of a friendly, legit company.

Meanwhile, hidden down in the basement with one of those pull-chain lights, is a group of spam authors, raking in money for the other "secret" side of the same company, with the programmers giving the guys upstairs the occasional clues about how the software can fight their activities.

Know what I mean?

I'm not trying to slam John's post... don't get me wrong -- I'm sure it's a good product. I just can't help but think these thoughts when I imagine buying anti-spam products. :)

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

I am completely impressed with SpamEater Pro.
Sounds like the anti-virus companies. Ever wonder how they have a fix for some unknown and horrible virus in less than 5 hours?
10/16/2006 09:59:18 PM · #16
Google's "gmail" does it all for me.
--jrjr
10/16/2006 10:12:47 PM · #17
In all reality, something like spameater is really a good choice. It's so 'tight' upon the initial installation that it will swallow everything that comes through... even stuff that isn't spam. You can see it in your 'eaten' folder and figure out what to do with it. What I do with mine, basically, is let it do that. I take a look at the stuff it has eaten periodically and add specific incoming mail to my 'accepted addresses' list and then recover the particular message. After doing this for a period of time, you build a list of accepted addresses most things flow freely.
10/17/2006 09:49:47 AM · #18
Popfile is another anti-spam program. I get over 99% accuracy. Its a Baseyan filter based program and needs a week or so to train.

Popfile allows you to seperate mail into buckets, so you can automatically sort it if you want to (e.g. one bucket for mailing lists, one for work, one for personal stuff, one for spam, etc).
10/17/2006 10:02:02 AM · #19
But but, those pills really do work :-P

Spam is fun... LOL
10/17/2006 10:02:50 AM · #20
Originally posted by alanfreed:

I just downloaded "Spamihilator" and I'm interested to see how well it works. I'm EXTREMELY sick and tired of spam, and will be keeping an eye on this thread to see what suggestions people have.

You can get the program I just mentioned at //www.spamihilator.com/

It's free!


Do you think they lost interest in developing this? I just went to look and see if it would be useful in addition to the built-in filters in Thunderbird. The public Beta's are September 2005. Over a year now, with no progression to or a newer beta or a "version 1" production.

I guess I'll just stick with the built in thunderbird filters!
10/17/2006 10:22:35 AM · #21
Originally posted by nshapiro:



Do you think they lost interest in developing this? I just went to look and see if it would be useful in addition to the built-in filters in Thunderbird. The public Beta's are September 2005. Over a year now, with no progression to or a newer beta or a "version 1" production.

I guess I'll just stick with the built in thunderbird filters!


It's possible that they lost interest, but it's still a good product even in its version 0.9 incarnation. It's easily blocking my spam now after only a few days of "training".

It's also far easier to work with a whitelist of known good stuff than it is to try and blacklist everything. The way that Spamihilator works by keeping stuff in a bin for a while suits this pretty well. There's enough time to review for real messages, whilst I don't get bothered by the 70+ spam per day that it's blocking.
10/17/2006 11:05:02 AM · #22
I find Gmail pretty good. I just forward all my other email accounts to Gmail and let it do all the spam filtering. Plus, you can flag any spam that does get through for the next time.

The biggest problem with using any anti-spam products is that of false positives. The chance of having one mail incorrectly detected means that you'll end up going in to your spam folder every day anyway, just to read the subject lines...!
10/17/2006 11:10:04 AM · #23
SpamBayes

Far and away the best solution for spam that I've found in about 10 years.

Perhaps not the most user-friendly setup, but once working, is simple, effective, learns what is spam to _you_, adapts as you change your mind, is free, doesn't use white lists/ black lists/ keywords. Doesn't need lists of banned addresses or anything that can't keep up with reality.

It's available for pretty much every mail client, on windows, mac & linux.
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