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07/01/2006 03:02:12 PM · #76 |
Originally posted by suemack:
Durnit!! Just d/l the rally nz shots I took today, and some of them look ok......though bit frustrating, cos had to work this morning so got to the rally too late to get to a good viewing site.
Though it's 1/7/06 here in NZ, still outside the time frame for this challenge. Will u/l a couple later on. |
The challenge starts and ends according to the server time at the bottom of each page. The SC take into account time zone differences when validating an image. Just make sure to mention what time zone you are in if required to submit proof. So as long as it was taken between the time the challenge showed up on the front page and when it no longer allows you to submit it, you should be fine. Just make sure you camera time and date are set correctly to your local time.
David
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07/01/2006 03:08:51 PM · #77 |
On the rotate issue.
The cameras I have used (not an extensive list, so some may differ) didn't rotate in camera. What they did was set the orientation field in the Exif data. The editing/viewing programs that are aware of this field adjust the image on screen accordingly -- meaning a rotation occurs for viewing/editing. When saved after editing the viewed/edited image is saved -- rotation included.
So, in this instance rotation is set in-camera, but performed later. I would personally say it would not be legal unless the camera actually moved the pixels of the image 90° -- but clarification would be good.
David
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07/01/2006 03:11:15 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by veocon:
Originally posted by dahkota:
Originally posted by veocon:
Originally posted by Djabordjabor:
...It is really hard to make a good photo without postprocessing, but it's possible. |
bah-hum-bug. what a nay-sayer. i dont believe that at all. ;)
its kinda like saying everything you see with your eye should be edited before it is beautiful. |
Your brain does edit it. That's why you don't notice how yellow indoor lighting is until you see a picture of it. |
good point. lol... i always forget white balance. :D |
Don't forget the constant aperture adjustment, superior "auto-focus" system, color-correction, intertially-guided image-stabilization system (uses your middle ear), and the eleven or so stops of sensitivity. |
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07/01/2006 03:18:19 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by veocon:
Originally posted by dahkota:
Originally posted by veocon:
Originally posted by Djabordjabor:
...It is really hard to make a good photo without postprocessing, but it's possible. |
bah-hum-bug. what a nay-sayer. i dont believe that at all. ;)
its kinda like saying everything you see with your eye should be edited before it is beautiful. |
Your brain does edit it. That's why you don't notice how yellow indoor lighting is until you see a picture of it. |
good point. lol... i always forget white balance. :D |
Don't forget the constant aperture adjustment, superior "auto-focus" system, color-correction, intertially-guided image-stabilization system (uses your middle ear), and the eleven or so stops of sensitivity. |
i think ive been using a soft focas lens then... if only it was as easy as changing the lens... |
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07/01/2006 03:37:12 PM · #80 |
| Why does the "Straight form Camera" challenge allow Advanced Editing??? Am I missing something? |
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07/01/2006 03:45:05 PM · #81 |
Maybe I'm dense or just plain am missing something. On the rotating issue, don't you just turn the camera on its side to take a portrait photo?
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07/01/2006 03:53:28 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by jbsmithana:
Maybe I'm dense or just plain am missing something. On the rotating issue, don't you just turn the camera on its side to take a portrait photo? |
When you copy that file to the computer, the photo is laying on its side. |
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07/01/2006 03:56:31 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by persimon:
Why does the "Straight form Camera" challenge allow Advanced Editing??? Am I missing something? |
Please, anyone have any thoughts????? |
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07/01/2006 04:00:28 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jbsmithana:
Maybe I'm dense or just plain am missing something. On the rotating issue, don't you just turn the camera on its side to take a portrait photo? |
When you copy that file to the computer, the photo is laying on its side. |
Hmmm. I did not know that. Mine must be automatically rotating in camera with both my Nikon and old Fuji. At least I don't remember ever having to rotate a photo I took in portrait orientation.
Learn something new every day.
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07/01/2006 04:01:35 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by persimon:
Originally posted by persimon:
Why does the "Straight form Camera" challenge allow Advanced Editing??? Am I missing something? |
Please, anyone have any thoughts????? |
Read the description. In this case "advanced editing" is flagged so the NEW and SPECIAL rules take its place..... NO PROCESSING! :)
Message edited by author 2006-07-01 16:02:06.
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07/01/2006 04:02:14 PM · #86 |
Originally posted by persimon:
Originally posted by persimon:
Why does the "Straight form Camera" challenge allow Advanced Editing??? Am I missing something? |
Please, anyone have any thoughts????? |
Wow, anyone have the feeling you are completely invisible?? |
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07/01/2006 04:03:32 PM · #87 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by persimon:
Originally posted by persimon:
Why does the "Straight form Camera" challenge allow Advanced Editing??? Am I missing something? |
Please, anyone have any thoughts????? |
Read the description. In this case "advanced editing" is flagged so the NEW and SPECIAL rules take its place..... NO PROCESSING! :) |
Thank you - makes sense. I am not invisible afterall:-) |
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07/01/2006 04:03:58 PM · #88 |
Originally posted by persimon:
Originally posted by persimon:
Originally posted by persimon:
Why does the "Straight form Camera" challenge allow Advanced Editing??? Am I missing something? |
Please, anyone have any thoughts????? |
Wow, anyone have the feeling you are completely invisible?? |
Sorry Amy. I was ponduring the rotation question. Memeber challenges are always Advanced rules. This challenge has Special Rules as it does not fit either Basic or Advanced.
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07/01/2006 04:10:20 PM · #89 |
Originally posted by veocon:
Im going to go out on a limb and say most dslr cameras have a rotate function in camera. not to mention that you can turn off the auto-rotate function.
also. any kind of resizing changes the pixel data of an image. down sizing is the removal of pixels. using a sharpening sampler to downsize all it does is 'attempt' to preserve the original 'sharpness' of an image. now if you were upsizing an image there might be an issue, since you would be adding pixels. tisk tisk. this is a non issue.
im suprised there are no border lovers complaining yet. ;) |
Guess I should read the book on the 20D, you mean it will actually save portrait shots to the CF rotated? Preview in camera I've seen but not in the xfer to disk the Portrait shoots need to be flipped. Don't make me read the book...ahhhh... |
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07/01/2006 04:11:02 PM · #90 |
| I would have to say the 300D rotates in camera. If I take a picture in portrait and then download it without doing anything, it doesn't seem to matter what I use to open it, it sits in portrait orientation. |
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07/01/2006 04:14:58 PM · #91 |
Originally posted by persimon:
Originally posted by persimon:
Why does the "Straight form Camera" challenge allow Advanced Editing??? Am I missing something? |
Please, anyone have any thoughts????? |
Member challenges are automatically listed as Advanced Editing. The Flagged Special Rules supercede the Advanced Editing rules, so follow those -- resize, SaveAs is pretty much it ... |
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07/01/2006 04:16:57 PM · #92 |
Originally posted by awpollard:
Originally posted by veocon:
Im going to go out on a limb and say most dslr cameras have a rotate function in camera. not to mention that you can turn off the auto-rotate function.
also. any kind of resizing changes the pixel data of an image. down sizing is the removal of pixels. using a sharpening sampler to downsize all it does is 'attempt' to preserve the original 'sharpness' of an image. now if you were upsizing an image there might be an issue, since you would be adding pixels. tisk tisk. this is a non issue.
im suprised there are no border lovers complaining yet. ;) |
Guess I should read the book on the 20D, you mean it will actually save portrait shots to the CF rotated? Preview in camera I've seen but not in the xfer to disk the Portrait shoots need to be flipped. Don't make me read the book...ahhhh... |
yeppers. cannons auto-rotate function (when on) automatically rotates portriates for you. you can also go into the menu and rotate pictures while they are still on your camera. |
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07/01/2006 04:18:38 PM · #93 |
Got it on the 20D it is on a per picture basis (one at a time) and you have to do it after the fact by using preview to find you pic then use the (blue) Menu to rotate... wouldn't want to go through and rotate a lot of in cam pictures but for the AnalYitcal people disecting the challenge description...It is doable...good to know.
Auto Rotate is for the LCD only...the way I read/have seen it.
Message edited by author 2006-07-01 16:21:21. |
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07/01/2006 04:21:27 PM · #94 |
Originally posted by awpollard:
Got it on the 20D it is one per picture basis and you have to do it after the fact through by using preview to find you pic then use the (blue) Menu to rotate... wouldn't want to go through and rotate a lot of in cam pictures but for the AnalYitcal people disecting the challenge description...It is doable...good to know.
Auto Rotate is for the LCD only...the way I read/have seen it. |
all pics i have shot in raw have saved to the cf in portraite. |
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07/01/2006 04:21:54 PM · #95 |
Originally posted by awpollard:
Guess I should read the book on the 20D, you mean it will actually save portrait shots to the CF rotated? Preview in camera I've seen but not in the xfer to disk the Portrait shoots need to be flipped. Don't make me read the book...ahhhh... |
In your orange menu, the "tools" menu, you can specify auto-rotate on or off. I usually leave it off by default, because otherwise when I go to view the images in the LCD portrait orientation shows up rotated, which means it's smaller and harder to view, PLUS if the camera's on a tripod and I'm checking, then the auto-rotated image isn't right-side-up :-)
There IS another menu function in the blue menu that allows you to rotate an individual image on the card...
Anyway, I have autorotate ON for this challenge.
R.
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07/01/2006 04:25:47 PM · #96 |
Guess my stuff has been broke for a year and half then...I have always had auto rotate on, On the LCD they are rotated, but when xfered to pewter I have to rotate.
Are you guys using Kook Cord or Card reader to xfer files? Maybe it's a RAW thing, now I have to go verify that but jpgs I have been rotating...sheesh this would save some time.
ED: It IS a RAW thing... Just went out and verified... guess that is yet another reason to go back to RAW.
Shot some pics with RAW+JPG High and all the RAW files are rotated and all the JPGs are not.
ED: ED: Good grief I stand corrected again... Seems that it is a bit of EXIF info that Windows Picture and Fax viewer does not pic up on... Opening the Same files in Zoombrowser or Canon DPP there is a Rotated Flag (and appear correct) on the JPGs that I Hit Save as... and use the original filename they are saved properly.
Message edited by author 2006-07-01 16:46:45. |
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07/01/2006 05:38:31 PM · #97 |
| this will be my first challenge, exciting. |
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07/01/2006 05:40:10 PM · #98 |
Originally posted by kerouzach:
this will be my first challenge, exciting. |
Good luck ;) |
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07/01/2006 05:44:35 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by awpollard:
Guess my stuff has been broke for a year and half then...I have always had auto rotate on, On the LCD they are rotated, but when xfered to pewter I have to rotate.
Are you guys using Kook Cord or Card reader to xfer files? Maybe it's a RAW thing, now I have to go verify that but jpgs I have been rotating...sheesh this would save some time.
ED: It IS a RAW thing... Just went out and verified... guess that is yet another reason to go back to RAW.
Shot some pics with RAW+JPG High and all the RAW files are rotated and all the JPGs are not.
ED: ED: Good grief I stand corrected again... Seems that it is a bit of EXIF info that Windows Picture and Fax viewer does not pic up on... Opening the Same files in Zoombrowser or Canon DPP there is a Rotated Flag (and appear correct) on the JPGs that I Hit Save as... and use the original filename they are saved properly. |
:) wasnt arguing for no reason |
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07/01/2006 06:31:24 PM · #100 |
So simple 90 rotation legal or not?
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