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 03/24/2003 11:33:25 PM · #1
Who's Smarter?
by Cindy Osborne

The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid" , "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.

So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant" , "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:

President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with
53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other than Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and see the truth.)

Vice President Dick Cheney: Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country. (Note: He retired as Four Star General in the United States Army)

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77.

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and
Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she resides in Washington, D.C.

So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and background:

Barbra Streisand : Completed high school Career: Singing and acting

Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and acting

Martin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: Acting

Jessica Lange: Dropped out college mid-freshman year. Career: Acting

Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal. Career: Acting

Julia Roberts: Completed high school. Career: Acting

Sean Penn: Completed High school. Career: Acting

Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. Career: Acting

Ed Asner; Completed High school. Career: Acting

George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky. Career: Acting

Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career: Movie Director

Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting

Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting

Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting

Janeane Garofelo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienne

Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career: Acting

While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN!! We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders.

These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country. They only have a deep seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed, by freedom-hating terrorists, while going about
their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the war. Why the change? Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the White House.

Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze
the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.

So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a Diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his High School Diploma gives him the knowledge (and the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?

The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom!

It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall them.

Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is known for, and defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. Just ask all of the communists that came out of Eastern Europe when the wall came down. It ended with the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan... PEACE through STRENGTH.
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So shut your traps you hollywood idiots, pretending to be smart only works in the movies you make. As for those of you dreamers that keep listening to the left wing wackos, I feel your pain... I wish things could be butterflies and puppy dogs all of the time too... but reality and history say that it just isn't so... please, I beg you, wake up and quit dreaming... If we stand behind our troops and this noble cause, soon Iraq will be free of a ruthless dictator and it's people can begin their journey of democracy and peace, making this a better world for all...

Message edited by author 2003-03-25 09:23:07.
 03/24/2003 11:36:48 PM · #2
Let's see .... this would be true of Charlton Heston and Ronald Reagan and Sonny Bono and James Woods, right? Or is it only left-of-centre celebrities who are moronic idiots?

Message edited by author 2003-03-24 23:37:24.
 03/24/2003 11:43:05 PM · #3
hahaha, That is awesome. I watched the Oscars last night and couldn't believe what one guy was saying. This is great.
 03/25/2003 12:07:36 AM · #4
Originally posted by Jak:
Let's see .... this would be true of Charlton Heston and Ronald Reagan and Sonny Bono and James Woods, right? Or is it only left-of-centre celebrities who are moronic idiots?


do some more research jak, the only one i couldn't find a college attended or graduated from is bono. heston didn't complete college (3 years that i count) because of the war, or maybe he did. northwestern lists him as alumni. reagan graduated from eureka college in economics. woods attended MIT on a full scholarship for political science.

03/25/2003 12:46:48 AM · #5
Anachronite, you said it perfectly!!!

Thank you for saying what you did and sharing it with all of us.

I refuse to buy or rent any movies with these actors in them or the singers music and I think we should all do the same. Let them know that we aren't going to stand for it.

Thank you again.
Sonja

oh ya don't forget that the dixie chicks are against Bush as well. G. Gorden Liddy had a thing or two to say about them.
03/25/2003 01:03:41 AM · #6
Anachronite,

Bravo!! Bravo!! (Some of that Hollywood lingo)

Thank You and God Bless our Troops!

Roger
03/25/2003 01:17:27 AM · #7
I couldn't agree with the letter anymore, Jeff. I won't add too much more to it except to say that whether or not people agree with this war I find it a real shame that everyone can't still support our troops now that they are in this conflict. Believe it or not, conservatives want peace too, and enough to be willing to fight for it.

T
 03/25/2003 01:33:06 AM · #8
Well certainly not only highly intelligent people and college grads are entitled to opinions. The issue with celebrities is that they have unearned power in projecting their opinions to the world. Other professions don't have that power or at least don't use it. Company execs don't start bussiness meetings with a proclamation of their political views.
Celebs should be more than welcome to have and proclaim their opinions, but they should do so in that same ways that everyday citizens do, not during acceptance speeches or publicity interviews. Perhaps more importantly, the media should stop giving these people a special platform for their opinions whenever possible.

But that's just what I think.. and I'm only a freshmen in college. = )
 03/25/2003 01:41:38 AM · #9
(It often happens that "self-educated" is confused with "uneducated." This is an error to be avoided.)
In actual practice, scientific breakthroughs have been intiated by those who were formally educated, as forinstance by Nicolaus Copernicus, and by those who were self-educated, as for instance by Michael Faraday.
--Isaac Asimov, Those Crazy Ideas

Please do not confuse Curriculum Vitae with intelligence. I've never met any of the people listed (although my mother may have), so I myself must reserve judgement on their intelligence, but not on their values, ideals, and moral integrity...
 03/25/2003 01:43:46 AM · #10
Originally posted by wingy:
Company execs don't start bussiness meetings with a proclamation of their political views.

They don't need to proclaim them, they merely set about imposing them on the rest of us.

Actually, if you can still find any Maoist collectives, they probably DO start their meetings with a review of their views...

Message edited by author 2003-03-25 01:45:20.
 03/25/2003 02:33:32 AM · #11
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by wingy:
Company execs don't start bussiness meetings with a proclamation of their political views.

They don't need to proclaim them, they merely set about imposing them on the rest of us.

Actually, if you can still find any Maoist collectives, they probably DO start their meetings with a review of their views...


You're jumping issues here. The point is that other professions don't use their occupations as platforms to influence public opinion unless that job specifically involves doing so. Bussiness execs are free to run their bussiness as they see fit and hollywood film stars are free to act in movies as they see fit. Neither's opinion on war in iraq should carry any more weight than the rest of us.
 03/25/2003 02:38:03 AM · #12
Originally posted by timj351:
Believe it or not, conservatives want peace too, and enough to be willing to fight for it.


I heard a nice little quote yesterday.
Please pardon the British 'lingo'.

"Fighting for Peace is like Shagging for Virginity"

Message edited by author 2003-03-25 02:38:19.
 03/25/2003 03:10:06 AM · #13
Originally posted by wingy:
You're jumping issues here. The point is that other professions don't use their occupations as platforms to influence public opinion unless that job specifically involves doing so. Bussiness execs are free to run their bussiness as they see fit and hollywood film stars are free to act in movies as they see fit. Neither's opinion on war in iraq should carry any more weight than the rest of us.


The billions of dollars spent by corporations in their efforts to sway political decisions runs counter to this argument. Politics is (or should be) a part of our daily life as it concerns our governing bodies and their carrying out the will of the people (roughly in systems confined to democracy).

Within the limited context of American politics, surely it is the right (and duty) of citizens to make their opinions known, especially when they disagree sharply with their government.

The original article does contain some serious factual omissions, resorting to collective Ad Hominem. It's not particularly well-reasoned, but I suppose it's presented as a purely opinion piece. To each their own.
 03/25/2003 03:33:24 AM · #14
Originally posted by Sonifo:
I refuse to buy or rent any movies with these actors in them or the singers music and I think we should all do the same. Let them know that we aren't going to stand for it.


You aren't going to stand for what? the free expression of opinion? While punitive economic decisions may suit your conscience it will likely have little impact on many of the people on your black list. In most cases, they have already been paid and who is to know why CD/movie sales/rentals have suddenly dropped?

Don't get lost in the statistics: write a letter to each of the parties listed, their agents, the movie/record production companies associated with them, the actor's guild, and even higher level government officials.

Originally posted by Sonifo:
oh ya don't forget that the dixie chicks are against Bush as well. G. Gorden Liddy had a thing or two to say about them.


[sarcasm]
Heavens to Betsy! Free citizens of America openly expressing their political views, against their president? Outrageous!
[/sarcasm]

Actually, the Dixie Chicks recanted/clarified/apologized for their statement shortly after making it, so you're free to continue buying and listening to their music (not that Earl is happy about it).
03/25/2003 04:52:43 AM · #15
(It often happens that "self-educated" is confused with "uneducated." This is an error to be avoided.)
In actual practice, scientific breakthroughs have been intiated by those who were formally educated, as forinstance by Nicolaus Copernicus, and by those who were self-educated, as for instance by Michael Faraday.
--Isaac Asimov, Those Crazy Ideas

Great quote. I'll go back to the original post: I can't actually believe you wrote all that! Anyway, I agree in general that these people have more influence then they are due. I think the same of the politicians. There aren't many smart people out there in any fields. Very very few indeed. And whose to say who they are. I just get tired of people who get all excited about their big ideas. Even if you think Bush is wrong, at least he's not the one screaming and looking like an a-hole.
 03/25/2003 04:53:08 AM · #16
i have managed to still my fingers through 19 pages of *the other rant* but i have to jump in just this once...! :)

...so essentially--these *hollywood idiots* are using the media to voice their opinions. and bottom line, they differ from this very post how? this post was used as a medium for a message--but the *hollywood idiots* probably happen to get more exposure. well, big deal! i dont revolve my opinions around what barbara streisand has to say anymore than i would rush limbaugh. frankly, i dont even know anyone who voted for gore just because julia roberts said they should. i assume the original post is here because because it is something you strongly agree with--which is fine--but where does the plea for *intelligence and education* come into calling the people you may disagree with derogatory names and implying that they stopped learning at 17, or whenever they completed their formal education? (i seem to recall that even einstein didnt complete highschool! what a dummy! :)

i do agree with some of the things that were said, but really! our media is carrying many, many more voices than just those of hollywood. i watched the oscars. i cringed when michael moore got up because i just knew he would speak out! read a book by him--watch roger and me--he is not known for his silence. i honestly wish he hadn't--and if anyone had watched the oscars--they would know that many of his peers feel the same! everyone would have known that the first (most influential) 20 rows of these *hollywood idiots* remained completely expressionless during his short tirade--and HALF of the crowd actually booo'd him! so maybe only half of them are idiots now? ;) yes, i read michael moore's books-- just as i have forced myself to sit thru several of limbaugh's radio shows--to educate myself on both sides, filter out the obvious opinions, and learn the facts, because that is truly learning.
again, i understand the anger and frustration--but getting mad and blacklisting celebrities is not really helping anything, either. just because they speak their minds, doesn't mean they are commies. just ask mccarthy.

Message edited by author 2003-03-25 06:35:21.
 03/25/2003 04:57:08 AM · #17
I just wanted to point out that Anachronite never wrote the article, he simply copied and pasted it from an online newspaper somewhere. As acknowledged at the top of his post it was written by a journalist called Cindy Osborne.

I'd like to add that for a country that's so proud of it's commitment to free speech there sure is a lot of outrage when that speech doesn't happen to agree with someone's own opinions. Even to the extent of finding ways of stifling it/ punishing the speakers.

Whichever "side" of this debate I happen to take, what makes me sad is this corrosion of that much-admired American ideal.

Message edited by author 2003-03-25 05:06:17.
 03/25/2003 05:00:36 AM · #18
Originally posted by wingy:
The point is that other professions don't use their occupations as platforms to influence public opinion unless that job specifically involves doing so. Bussiness execs are free to run their bussiness as they see fit ...

Not exactly. They're not allowed to discriminate arbitarily in their hiring practices. They are not allowed to make false claims about their products. They used to be required to maintain accurate accounts and file proper tax returns, but those rules seem to have been suspended for now...

Here's a couple of examples of ad campaigns not directly related to increasing sales of the company's primary product:
Budweiser: Encourages people not to drive drunk (a possibly useful bit of corporate proselytizing)
Chevron: defenders of wildlife -- we'll take good care of that Arctic Refuge

I'm too tired to think of any more right now, but the idea that corporate interests don't try to influence public or political opinion is ...izz...zzz...

Message edited by author 2003-03-25 05:04:09.
 03/25/2003 05:07:23 AM · #19
Originally posted by Kavey:
I'm not even going to enter this argument and talk about how I feel about the original article.

I just wanted to point out that Anachronite never wrote the article, he simply copied and pasted it from an online newspaper somewhere. As acknowledged at the top of his post it was written by a journalist called Cindy Osborne.


ahh--thank you kavey--i am sorry--you are exactly right. i thought for some reason hers had ended before the bottom of the post. my apologies and i will correct my own post!

Message edited by author 2003-03-25 06:04:17.
 03/25/2003 05:56:32 AM · #20
Originally posted by Alecia:
Originally posted by Kavey:
I'm not even going to enter this argument and talk about how I feel about the original article.

I just wanted to point out that Anachronite never wrote the article, he simply copied and pasted it from an online newspaper somewhere. As acknowledged at the top of his post it was written by a journalist called Cindy Osborne.


ahh--thank you kavey--i am sorry--you are exactly right. i thought for some reason her's had ended before the bottom of the post. my apologies and i will correct my own post!


Alecia
You're welcome.

I decided in the end to edit my original post and to just say the one thing I wanted to say...
Other than that, I don't think my entering the pros/cons of war debate will contribute anything new, nor sway any opinions, so I will stay out of it!
 03/25/2003 07:42:05 AM · #21
Who says the american leaders are stupid after all they have the majority of americans believing this war is to liberate Iraq!

And the intelligent people know the real reason.
 03/25/2003 08:16:47 AM · #22
Originally posted by Kavey:
I just wanted to point out that Anachronite never wrote the article, he simply copied and pasted it from an online newspaper somewhere. As acknowledged at the top of his post it was written by a journalist called Cindy Osborne.

I'd like to add that for a country that's so proud of it's commitment to free speech there sure is a lot of outrage when that speech doesn't happen to agree with someone's own opinions. Even to the extent of finding ways of stifling it/ punishing the speakers.

Whichever "side" of this debate I happen to take, what makes me sad is this corrosion of that much-admired American ideal.


no need to point that I did not write the article...
I cited the author of the article at the beginning.... I only wrote the last paragraph...

and Hoogie, liberation is not the only reason for being there, there are several reasons, including oil... after all, we drive oil burning cars to work everyday... the liberation aspect just happenes to be the most noble part of being there... as for the oil, that is also one of the main reasons that countries like france were against it... they buy oil from iraq and didn't want that interfered with... now however, it is beginning to look like these countries never stopped supplying arms to this dictator... shame shame... no wonder they have no balls when it comes to enforcing their meaningless sanctions
 03/25/2003 09:08:17 AM · #23
Originally posted by Alecia:
...so essentially--these *hollywood idiots* are using the media to voice their opinions. and bottom line, they differ from this very post how?


the main difference is only about 200-300 people will view this thread as opposed to 30 million people watching celebrities spout off about the war. i honestly think most of them don't even care about issues...i think they mainly find it hip to be politically correct and go with an anti-war stance. but hollywood is undoubtedly liberal to begin with. you wanna talk about an industry that exploits people, it's the movie industry. these people make millions off movies that appeal only to the lowest common denominator.
 03/25/2003 09:19:58 AM · #24
Originally posted by Anachronite:
no need to point that I did not write the article...
I cited the author of the article at the beginning.... I only wrote the last paragraph...

At least one person thought that only the first paragraph was a quote so the clarification was needed. I actually thought the whole thing was a quote so that shows how easy it was to make that mistake.
 03/25/2003 09:22:54 AM · #25
In an effort to try and offset the loss of business that is sure to sting these elite Hollywood celebrities, I will be increasing my movie viewing and renting.

Seriously, these folks have an opinion just like you and me. If the media wants to give them the platform to discuss it, that's not the celebrities' fault.

Michael Moore was way over the line, though.
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