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09/02/2002 10:30:07 PM · #26 |
| A cake you can't eat because it is to good? Give it a 1. (: |
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09/03/2002 01:28:00 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by rapsiii3:
Now there are more than one realities! I am confused. Perhaps I should rethink my "opinion." Or not!
Keep your opinion pure.....think like this: "Your perception is your reality!" ;'-D
* This message has been edited by the author on 9/3/2002 1:30:03 AM. |
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09/03/2002 02:42:34 AM · #28 |
| Now I must be pure as the Budda, clear of mind and clean of heart. If He only knew that this teeth parade up and down the streets in the joggernaut He might be less understanding! When the reality offends what tool is available for change than the words of the spirit? These people wanting to judge by their own standards need to study the standards used by a broader group. DPC is sometimes like living in a little town in West Virgina with now roads in or out. We all look the same and everyone wants to know what to feed a goat. |
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09/03/2002 02:59:08 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by rapsiii3:
... everyone wants to know what to feed a goat.
Purina Goat Chow!
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09/03/2002 03:05:30 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by spiderman:
Originally posted by rapsiii3:
[i]... everyone wants to know what to feed a goat.
Purina Goat Chow!
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glad you get it! |
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09/03/2002 05:04:07 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by hbunch7187:
C'mon. How many times have we looked at a person and said he/she is a "real 10". Obviously if you have your vision of a "10" then surely you MUST have a vision of a "1".
I kind of agree with you here, but the thing is, I don't see alot of "my vision" of a 1 being submitted (I've taken a few, but they get deleted almost before they hit my hard drive)... A 10 takes my breath away, a 1 takes my lunch away... My breath is often taken here, but so far I haven't lost much lunch... This being the case I rarely find many 4, fewer 3, almost never find a 2, and I don't recall seeing a 1... But if I see a 1, I'll vote a 1... Just haven't seen one yet...
But that's just me... :)
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09/03/2002 03:36:13 PM · #32 |
I've developed a knot in my stomach over my submission to the Candid challenge. I was pretty stoked when I first submitted it, but Sunday at midnight when I started cruising through all the other entries, I realized it was probably headed for the crapper. This is my first entry here. And yeah, I'm cringing from the some of the comments about "this looks set up" and "this isn't candid" and "what the hell?" (eheheh), but it sounds like I'm in good company...or something to that effect. Still, critical or not, I do appreciate the time people took to comment about their take on the image. It's good food for thought and incentive to exercise more consideration toward fulfilling the goals of the challenge/project. (Funny how these things translate into handling real-world jobs :-)
There are some wonderful submissions in this challenge. Very humbling. Good work.
::working on a comeback for the fruits & veggies challenge::
::slaps self silly as reminder not to try anything funny like entering a picture of a mushroom ;-) ::
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09/03/2002 11:29:22 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by jperez1690:
::slaps self silly as reminder not to try anything funny like entering a picture of a mushroom ;-) ::
Jeremy
Why not enter a mushroom? It's a Fun Guy :) (get it?... Oh nevermind...)
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09/04/2002 01:10:42 PM · #34 |
| I'm just wondering how many ppl have received a comment about their shot not being candid. |
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09/04/2002 01:15:40 PM · #35 |
no comments, just really low votes :(
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09/04/2002 02:12:37 PM · #36 |
| I cant believe so many people are getting questioning wheather a shot is set up or not! So what if it is. Judge the picture on its qualities and don't worry about it, life is far too short to lie awake at night worrying wheather a candid shot is set up or not, jeez...! |
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09/04/2002 02:14:09 PM · #37 |
but... but... I... but... but... :))
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09/04/2002 02:18:20 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
but... but... I... but... but... :))
But nothing.
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09/04/2002 02:22:43 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by rapsiii3:
So Dawn, you're one of the evil low ballers! I wish you would realize that it isn't necessary to be insulting in order to be fair. <snip>
Rapsiii3,
I only just saw this reply when it came back up in recent threads. Sorry for the late reply. Actually, I almost didn't reply at all because in a nutshell TerryGee, Lionelm, and Jakking neatly summed up my thoughts. But since you addressed me personally, I supposed it would be rude to ignore you.
First, I hardly consider myself "an evil lowballer"; I vote high for what I think is good and low for what I think is bad. I explain my thoughts to the photographer, and most often, I try to do it kindly. I don't think a 1 is insulting. I'm sorry that you do. In truth, I think giving a 4 to a really poor shot is unfair to the people who submitted average shots. It results in the bad and the so-so being intermixed in ranking. My method has the following results: the good float up to the top, the bad sink to the bottom and the average settle nicely in the middle.
As for your analogy "that the photographer should take up Dentisry as a hobby and leave the camera alone", I am never judging the photographer on a whole, but merely their accomplishment in one photo at a time. Furthermore, I would never make the suggestion you did.
FWIW, I *am* wondering what I could do to get you to take up photography as a hobby and leave the keyboard at home! You've made your point, several times over. If changes are to be made to the system, let it happen. No point in harping on it.
One last thought:
It's interesting to me that you call me insulting for using the scale when you are so blatant in your insults: "she doesn't try to con anyone into beliving they are pictures of childhood when they are really just pictures of a fly."
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09/04/2002 02:26:03 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by pnicholls:
Well, I don't think I like the challenge either, at least not the results so far. After getting a new camera, I wanted to submit something, but my score tells me I should have stayed out of this one. I had trouble all week with the theme of the challenge, so know I will not make it as a "Candid" photographer. Guess I better stick to my birds! I guess I could have submitted a bird shot, they are definitely candid, but I tried humans this go around!
I wouldn't give up yet, Pete. I just bought my camera too in July, and the Candid photo I just submitted was my second posting. It's not doing well - I'm getting reamed for technical imperfections, like a window reflection (and that's fair, but hard to eliminate in a "candid" shoot from the hip situation). I'm having trouble with the challenges, because the participants here are very particular about what they like or don't like. Take the comments with a grain of salt, and just keep trying. You can't learn if you don't try, and some day, you just might become a "candid" photographer. I'm using this opportunity to try to develop a creative streak. It seems to be what the people here want.
* This message has been edited by the author on 9/4/2002 2:47:35 PM.
* This message has been edited by the author on 9/4/2002 2:48:49 PM. |
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09/04/2002 02:28:36 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by aelith:
Dawn, I begin to understand Rapsiii3's compaint about no standards for judging. In my eyes the average shot in this GROUP gets a 7 with the peak of my curve on 8 because of the overall excellence of work submitted here. So in my eyes a low 4 is the kiss of death. like a grade of D-. And at LAST! I got the focus and light right!
Aelith,
I know that it is frustrating to have so many people using different scales to judge. The best way I know to get around this is to use the one the site provides (1-10). Beyond that, I try to make it clear in my comments why I voted the way I did. Perhaps I should add my descriptive voting scale to my profile, so at least people know...
I do get your point as to where you feel most submissions rate; we just have a difference of opinion there. That's what art is all about, different strokes for different folks. I am constantly amazed even at the variety of photos people put in their favorites (I love to check this out) -- it just furthers the idea that we all have our OWN idea of what is ideal.
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09/04/2002 03:44:57 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by Martin:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
[i]but... but... I... but... but... :))
But nothing.
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yep, nothing. don't need a challenge. jsut take a picture. just make sure it has a title to tie it in. :-)
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09/04/2002 08:52:41 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by indigo997:
I'm just wondering how many ppl have received a comment about their shot not being candid.
I have not only received such comments, but also comments regarding the possibility that I illegaly used photoshop. How can I defend my picture?
I took a photo of absolute strangers, from afar, using the zoom, obtaining a candid instant. To my surprise, the resulting commentaries I'm receiving mention that it looks "staged" and the image is not perfect. I can deal with it being bad, or non-perfect, but comments like this:
"The man's shoulder has a line across the top that might be residual from editting and his overall appearance seems squished from the sides"
"it appears to have been superimposed on the background(s). Its a very nice picture, but it may not have conformed to the submission requirements. I can't tell for sure."
"hows?? ahhh eeee I DONT EEEE GOT IT"
"Now this looks staged to me. Good photo, but i don't like the staged aspect of it."
"A little too much Photoshop for my taste... The people are great"
Of course my average vote is dramatically low. Not everything is bad, as always, I also have some comments about it being "excellent" "beautiful" and "great photo!". I like my picture a lot and I feel happy to participate.
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09/04/2002 09:09:11 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by indigo997:
I'm just wondering how many ppl have received a comment about their shot not being candid.
I have... From you in fact :) After the challenge I'd be interested in hearing why it wasn't candid :) |
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09/04/2002 09:28:36 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by amonteforte:
Originally posted by indigo997:
[i]I'm just wondering how many ppl have received a comment about their shot not being candid.
I have not only received such comments, but also comments regarding the possibility that I illegaly used photoshop. How can I defend my picture?
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The official way is to present the original shot with it's data file intact next week after the contest. A shot of the location from another angle should help too. If this is the one I think it is the background is very unusual and there is no feeling of depth behind the subject.
aelith
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09/04/2002 10:12:39 PM · #46 |
| And if it's the one I think .. it looks very flat to me and with some 'distorsion' in the head of the guy. But I think I did not vote for it yet. |
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09/04/2002 10:23:58 PM · #47 |
myqyl, so that's you?
I only left anything resembling that comment on one shot because I was hoping that the photographer would contact me and explain it! If someone specifically asks you something in the comment and leaves their name then I think it's ok to send them a PM with your response. That's what I'd expect anyway. |
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09/04/2002 11:18:35 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by aelith:
Originally posted by amonteforte:
[i]Originally posted by indigo997:
[i]I'm just wondering how many ppl have received a comment about their shot not being candid.
I have not only received such comments, but also comments regarding the possibility that I illegaly used photoshop. How can I defend my picture?
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The official way is to present the original shot with it's data file intact next week after the contest. A shot of the location from another angle should help too. If this is the one I think it is the background is very unusual and there is no feeling of depth behind the subject.
aelith
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I was requested by the administration to submit the original file, and I did provide a couple other angles of the event, as you recommended. Now I feel great because I got the chance to defend my picture.
Thanks.
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09/04/2002 11:49:26 PM · #49 |
Two photos come to mind, and I am wondering if either are yours.
I recieved one that said something a kin too "I am having trouble here, aren't all shots of babies/kids candid" so, what is the problem?
Anyway, I am doing better than I thought I would, so I am happy.
I consider a candid baby/kid pic to be one that is not planned out, but taken naturally.
Originally posted by amonteforte:
Originally posted by indigo997:
[i]I'm just wondering how many ppl have received a comment about their shot not being candid.
I have not only received such comments, but also comments regarding the possibility that I illegaly used photoshop. How can I defend my picture?
I took a photo of absolute strangers, from afar, using the zoom, obtaining a candid instant. To my surprise, the resulting commentaries I'm receiving mention that it looks "staged" and the image is not perfect. I can deal with it being bad, or non-perfect, but comments like this:
"The man's shoulder has a line across the top that might be residual from editting and his overall appearance seems squished from the sides"
"it appears to have been superimposed on the background(s). Its a very nice picture, but it may not have conformed to the submission requirements. I can't tell for sure."
"hows?? ahhh eeee I DONT EEEE GOT IT"
"Now this looks staged to me. Good photo, but i don't like the staged aspect of it."
"A little too much Photoshop for my taste... The people are great"
Of course my average vote is dramatically low. Not everything is bad, as always, I also have some comments about it being "excellent" "beautiful" and "great photo!". I like my picture a lot and I feel happy to participate.
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