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Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/27/2006 04:55:12 PM · #101

did you hear the the CEO of Exxon retired with 300,000,000

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

04/27/2006 05:02:53 PM · #102

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Originally posted by TroyMosley:

like they care, there making 150.000 Plus a year.

I heard that when you break down their salary by the number of hours they put in its $1700.00 per hour!

That is such BS!

Oh well...

Well, y'all vote them back in, over and over again - so why should they work any harder ? What's the retention rate - about 98% for senators ?

Mind you, making $150,000 a year doesn't make these gas price jumps any less painful. It's going to push everything up soon. I'm glad I'm cycling to work more.

Message edited by author 2006-04-27 17:04:21.

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

04/27/2006 05:02:59 PM · #103

Yeah talk about BS!

Not me I am a registered Libertarian...

Message edited by author 2006-04-27 17:03:58.

PhantomEWO

04/27/2006 05:25:14 PM · #104

San Antonio $2.75 unleaded and diesel the same.

So let's see ...let's have the gov't stop taxing gas ... ok then no new roads, road repairs, mass transit, police, military, ya great idea we can all buy a gun and move to the mountains and grow our own corn and potatoes ... we don't need the infrastructure that the US has anymore. I don't mean to belittle any other country SO ... gas is cheaper here than in all (or darn close to it) modern industrial nations in the world and has been forever. The US has more convience and access to activities, recreation, safety and overall standard of living than anywhere on the planet. I'm sure there are pockets of civilization that the citizens feel different but overall. How can I say this, lived in Australia for 6 years, UK for 3 years, Korea for a year, Germany, Turkey, Philipeans, Eqypt, and other places for many months each. I love traveling but when it's over, there are some great places to visit and outstanding people in every corner of the world. We need a government to stabilize and perform the needs of security, peace, transportation and oversight.

Now to the gas and oil companies. Is it their fault that they can't drill where there is known oil? This last year a reserve of oil was discovered in south central Utah that is enormous, the first two small test wells averaged over 850 barrels a day each the first year. They had to go deeper, but oil is more abundant than we are made to believe. California coast, Florida coast, even more off the Texas coast, Alaska etc etc. I believe the oil companies are enriching themself, yup, every oil shortage we're had they have made record profits. Remember profits are after all expenses including hurrican damages, drilling, production and golden parachute to the executives. They are stealing the world blind, the government isn't. I wish it was $1.50 again but with inflation over the years, it hard to pay for but still about the same prive. Oh ya, I remember paying .19 cents a gallon in my first Ford Mustang.

So everyone please sell your big cars and trucks and leave me some diesel for my Big truck ... thanks ;)

RayEthier

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

04/27/2006 05:51:29 PM · #105

Originally posted by PhantomEWO:

Oh ya, I remember paying .19 cents a gallon in my first Ford Mustang.

You truly were very fortunate to get prices like that. I seem to recall that the first Mustang rolled off the assembly line in 1964, and that the price of gas at that time was in the 0.30 range, at least where I lived........which was way out in the sticks.

While I can certainly control the amount of gas I use to drive around, I have a bit of a problem in winter. I have tried to let my family shiver in the dark, but they truly don't seem to care for it one iota.

Ray

PhantomEWO

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

04/27/2006 06:14:59 PM · #106

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by PhantomEWO:
Oh ya, I remember paying .19 cents a gallon in my first Ford Mustang.

You truly were very fortunate to get prices like that. I seem to recall that the first Mustang rolled off the assembly line in 1964, and that the price of gas at that time was in the 0.30 range, at least where I lived........which was way out in the sticks.

While I can certainly control the amount of gas I use to drive around, I have a bit of a problem in winter. I have tried to let my family shiver in the dark, but they truly don't seem to care for it one iota.

Ray

Hey Ray, you've actually got me by a few years, but in the 1970 in central utah there was a gas station called Gas-O-Mat where you purchased $1 tokens to feed into the pump. During one of the bestter times it was at .19 cents although normal was at about .30 cents. Oh the days of gas wars, I do believe they are over or at least to any significant amount.

rox_rox

Canon EOS-20D

04/27/2006 06:55:35 PM · #107

Regular Unleaded: $2.88
Diesel: $2.92

Just sold our gas Volvo, which got 24 MPG, and bought a diesel Passat, which gets 46MPG.

Even with the higher price of diesel, it costs us only $.06 per mile, compared to the $.12 per mile we paid with the gas car. Diesel is saving us 50% on our fuel costs. And when we have a place to set it up, we'll start making biodiesel for an even greater savings.

coolhar

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

04/27/2006 07:21:39 PM · #108

I can remember exactly what I paid in 1964, it was a milestone year in my life. Gas was 23.9 a gallon, and a dollar's worth was usually enough to keep me going for a weekend. (That's how people ordered their gas back in those days - you rolled up to the pump and told the waiting attendant "a dollar's worth please", and he washed your winshield and checked your oil without being asked to; no such thing as self-service.) Beer was 89 cents a six-pack cold, or 3 quart bottles for a buck. Cancer sticks were about $6.95 a carton. But I wasn't driving a new Mustang. My first car was a twelve year old Studebaker Commander Six that a hill-holder, suicide doors, and a back seat that seemed like a double bed.

I also remember when I was working part-time in an Esso station. I think it was 1969. Inflation was rampant and President Nixon imposed Wage & Price Controls which prevented my boss from giving me a promised raise. But the oil companies somehow got around the regulations, and our customers were outraged when gas prices jumped a whole nickle all at once, from 33.9 to 38.9. I can still hear them bitchin'.

So I'm here to tell you that the market manipulation, greed, and political clout of the oil companies is nothing new; and the notion that there is any real competition in the industry is a myth.

PhantomEWO

04/27/2006 09:37:13 PM · #109

I do know of one full service gas station AND in a state that does not require the station to pump the gas for the customer. They have been doing it for at least 40 years and they are usually 1 - 2 cents per gallon cheaper than everyone else. They meet you at the pump, ask how much you want, wash the windows and check the air pressure. They have a winning attitude, too bad others do see the benefit and increased profit from return customers.

jtf6agent

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

04/27/2006 10:02:34 PM · #110

We hit an ankle grabbing $3.27 today in the San Diego area. Speaking of gasoline prices has anyone noticed the following...

It seems everytime the gas companies want to raise their prices they raise them some outrageous amount and we all complain then they lower them a little from the outrageous price so we stop complaining and we don't notice they just raised it .30 cents a gallon. It happens every time. We go from $1.79 to $2.45 when everbody freaks out they lower it back to $2.15 and everybody goes "Whew" that was close. Is it just me or is there a pattern here?

rox_rox

Canon EOS-20D

04/27/2006 10:08:46 PM · #111

Originally posted by jtf6agent:

LOL! What gets me is the never-ending list of "reasons" that we are getting screwed.

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

04/27/2006 10:13:07 PM · #112

About 6 years ago, when I was pregnant with my third baby, we bought a Chevy Suburban (almost a necessity to haul around 3 boys and all their accoutrements). Gas was almost always 79 cents a gallon at the gas station by the university at which I attended graduate school, so we thought it was a no-brainer and a great family decision. Now the Suburban sits in my driveway, practically unused. If I tried to fill it up I think I might have a coronary of some sort. As it stands, my little Z-24 convertible costs about $36.00 to fill up and gets a full tank twice a week with my commute to work. I wonder how much weight I'd lose if I rode a bike 32 miles each way. ;)

BeeCee

Nikon D40

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

04/27/2006 10:16:12 PM · #113

Up to $1.16/litre here a few days ago...
*sigh...* My first car, in 1975, cost $5 to fill the tank, two hours' work at minimum wage. Now it costs over $70 for the same sized tank, 9 hours' work at minimum wage.

Telehubbie

Canon EOS-40D

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED

04/27/2006 11:03:26 PM · #114

Originally posted by jtf6agent:

It seems everytime the gas companies want to raise their prices they raise them some outrageous amount and we all complain then they lower them a little from the outrageous price so we stop complaining and we don't notice they just raised it .30 cents a gallon. It happens every time. We go from $1.79 to $2.45 when everbody freaks out they lower it back to $2.15 and everybody goes "Whew" that was close. Is it just me or is there a pattern here?

Ya, there's definitely a pattern there. Any little thing to raise the prices, yet when the catastrophe is over and things are "back to normal" they only lower the price about 1/3 of what they initially raised it. Get a few of these catastrophes, and you get where we are today.

What really pisses me off is that the oil companies brag in their quarterly reports that they're making more profit than they ever have, but need to raise prices at the pump to stay afloat. That's a bit hypocritical if you ask me. I kind of wonder if oil companies are starting to worry about the future with more and more hybrid vehicles being put on the streets, meaning less gas bought in the consumer market, and building kind of an insurance plan for themselves. That's a long stretch, but just a thought.

nomad469

Nikon D700

04/27/2006 11:14:50 PM · #115

Hmmmm... add the gas prices to the 24% our electric bill went up after katrina I'd say we are doing real well.

But the Economy is BOOMING ..

Message edited by author 2006-04-27 23:15:40.

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

04/27/2006 11:19:14 PM · #116

I'd just be happy to at least get a reach-around as a courtesy.
:S

faidoi

Pentax K10D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

04/27/2006 11:20:53 PM · #117

$3.11 in San Francisco.

Message edited by author 2006-04-27 23:22:54.

faidoi

Pentax K10D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

04/27/2006 11:22:32 PM · #118

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Message edited by author 2006-04-27 23:22:45.

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

04/27/2006 11:37:07 PM · #119

Exxon made $5.3billion/day last year.

MQuinn

Olympus OM-D E-M1

Olympus 14-54mm f/2.8-3.5 Zuiko Digital Zoom

04/27/2006 11:39:30 PM · #120

Why are the fuel prices so high? Because some spokesperson for Exxon said profit is not a swear word. A monopoly controls it all, and all those invested are making bank! Who ever pimps out working America the best wins the fortune 500 top company accolades. Hard to kick them in the wallet when they got you by yours, I don't have any answers. 8.4 billion last quarter, and the pres wants to relax EPA laws to ease the cost BS!

Telehubbie

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

04/27/2006 11:42:19 PM · #121

Originally posted by BradP:

I'd just be happy to at least get a reach-around as a courtesy.
:S

LMAO... Or even clean towel afterwards.

ChrisW123

Canon EOS-1000D Rebel XS

04/28/2006 12:04:20 AM · #122

Just filled up tonight, $3.20 a gallon for regular unleaded. Thanks Mr. oil company. Exxon/Moble just had ANOTHER record profits quarter in earnings.

While I'm not against capitalism I am against an oil (and energy in general) monopoly. These oil companies (with Bush's blessings) are screwing over the middle class as usual, inflating the price of oil thru speculation, buying oil cheap, and then selling it again at insane markups. I wouldn't have a problem with this (supply and demand) if there was a free market for competition. But there isn't is there? Why not?

Prices are gonna climb to at least $4.00 maybe more by the end of the summer. Here's a bet I will make with anyone: Bush will plead with the oil industry to keep prices as low as possible until after the '06 elections with the green light to screw us even more after the elections are over.

Don't listen to the nay-sayers about how ethenol is not practical. BS, it is, but the lobby against it is so huge that I doubt it will become a reality any time soon, and especially not if you vote in more corporate whore Republicans in November.

Message edited by author 2006-04-28 00:06:34.

liltritter

Nikon D70s

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6D ED

04/28/2006 12:11:44 AM · #123

3.19 Apple Valley, Ca... at the cheap place.

coolhar

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

04/28/2006 12:22:50 AM · #124

Originally posted by ChrisW123:

... While I'm not against capitalism I am against an oil (and energy in general) monopoly. ...

You don't have to be against free enterprise capitalism as a system to be against the oil industry's practices. They are an oligopoly, which is outside of the textbook definition of competition. That competition is necessary to make capitalism function in a way that serves the general population, as opposed to just serving the owners of capital. To fit that definition you need easy entry into the market. How easy is it for a new entitiy to go up against the likes of Exxon/Mobil, Shell and BP?

Some pundits around Capitol Hill are saying we should have seen this coming when we elected Texas oil millionaires to the top two positions in our government. Ahhh ... hindsight.

Telehubbie

Canon EOS-40D