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 04/14/2006 11:14:00 PM · #1
I am looking for a dpc shot (that ribboned or did very well) and was neat imaged. If you got, or know of one of these kind of shots, post em' here please.

If any one can tell me how they achieved it in N.I. that would be even better still....thanks

04/14/2006 11:46:27 PM · #2


This had heavy neat image. Didn't ribbon, but would have without the border... :) Came in 7th
 04/14/2006 11:48:48 PM · #3
Achoo...I'm thinking about buying NI tonight...is it much better than PS noise reduce???

Also...What were you thinking with that border???

KS

Originally posted by DrAchoo:


This had heavy neat image. Didn't ribbon, but would have without the border... :) Came in 7th
04/14/2006 11:51:51 PM · #4
Would be interesting to see that image without the NI effect.
04/15/2006 12:02:45 AM · #5
did you just use the default settings or did you play with them yourself?
any suggestions for settings that work well?

Very nice shot!BTW
04/15/2006 12:14:47 AM · #6
This is one that came fourth that I used NI on. I just set the test profile on a noisy part of the image and let the programme do the rest.


04/15/2006 12:21:10 AM · #7
I have neat image pro but I have a grass-is-greener feeling about Noise Ninja. Neat image works, but I don't find it's plugin user interface too "clean" (ironic, the user interface is "noisy" from a human factors point of view), and I find the batch interface really really clumsy.

Actually, I only ran the trial of NNJ quite a while back so can't really compare interfaces enough to say NNJ is better. Why not try both using the trials and decide for yourself.
 04/15/2006 12:54:38 AM · #8
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 04/15/2006 01:26:51 AM · #13
Kenny, to tell you the truth, I haven't used the noise reduction much in PS. I will do it in Adobe Bridge sometimes for RAW shots, but never inPS. No particular reason why not though.

I'll see if I can dig up an original of that shot.



Well, this was another workup of the shot, not an original obviously.

Message edited by author 2006-04-15 01:31:15.
 04/15/2006 02:32:17 AM · #14
Neat Imaged like crazy:



R.
 04/15/2006 02:36:42 AM · #15
What did you do Rob ?
 04/15/2006 04:13:00 AM · #16


i think i may have used neat image on this one, i draganized it first,
added color.

i never use the default neat image, push the sliders to about 1/4,
reduces noise thats all.
04/15/2006 05:10:54 AM · #17


Just on the water/sky, though

Message edited by author 2006-04-15 05:11:06.
 04/15/2006 06:16:44 AM · #18


Most of my landscapes have a little NI...I use as much or as little as will get the effect I`m after.
The three pics I`ve attached are good examples of the variation.
"September stroll" has had NI then "salt&pepper" filter in PSP added to get the painted look.

I have the trial version of Neat Image which is quite limited but I just muck about testing out different settings until I get what I like, but I usually only alter the "Noise reduction amount" setting and rarely use it above 50%...pretty basic but it works for me.
Sorry I can`t be more precise.
04/15/2006 10:35:31 AM · #19
Originally posted by ellamay:
I am looking for a dpc shot (that ribboned or did very well) and was neat imaged. If you got, or know of one of these kind of shots, post em' here please.

If any one can tell me how they achieved it in N.I. that would be even better still....thanks

...
These did not win ribbons but placed 5th and 6th respectively. The sunset was my first image to score 7. I don't like either image much now. I use NI in almost every image but for its intended purpose, noise reduction.

There are an infinite number of different ways to adjust settings to produce various filtering effects with NI. I'd recommend experimenting with them. My adjustments came by simply selecting irregular, non-smooth areas of the image and letting NI create the effect from the generated profile.

The sunset one was for the "soft focus" challenge under basic editing. I used NI to generate the "soft" effect. Now it would probably get DQed.

The church picture is a regretable mistake ruining an otherwise decent picture. My original intent was to smooth the side of the building, but back then I had to apply it to the whole image. If doing it today I would just apply it selectively to the building and the sky.

When these two images were done I was in a short term phase in November, 2003 where I used NI as an effects filter. I was caught up in the NI "smoothing" craze then. That was long before I had the plugin and used NI for normal photo editing. I like what people do using NI as an effects filter with landscapes and sometimes consider doing it again myself.

DPC voters prefer surrealism over realism in landscape photography.

Message edited by author 2006-04-15 10:38:20.
 04/15/2006 10:44:59 AM · #20
Originally posted by stdavidson:

DPC voters prefer surrealism over realism in landscape photography.


Amen to that. And hyper-realism as well...

R.
 04/15/2006 10:48:40 AM · #21
I use a different noise reduction program, Noiseware Pro - which is also available in a freeware version. I used it on my Best of 2005 entry as well as others.

04/15/2006 11:02:45 AM · #22
thanks everyone, while I was sleeping ya all came up with some great exampes.
I am trying to get a more exagerated effect similar to geewhy's examples. I have a forest shot that I think it will work nicely on.
I am curious what the 'salt and pepper' filter is, I do not seem to have that one : )
thanks again
 04/15/2006 12:45:52 PM · #23
Originally posted by geewhy:

I usually only alter the "Noise reduction amount" setting and rarely use it above 50%...pretty basic but it works for me.
Sorry I can`t be more precise.

What is interesting about Geewhy's approach is that he uses NI at noise reduction levels LESS than the default settings. In other words there is very little noise reduction being applied at all and should not even have any noticeable effects assuming that all the other NI settings are at their defaults.

If NI is being used as an effects filter then there must be more to the story. I like the image effects above but do not understand how NI could have played any role at all. There must be other setting variations that make the difference.
 04/15/2006 12:54:06 PM · #24
I use the "noise reduction" that comes with PSP9. I don't much care to use any sort of noise reduction, but I do anyway.

I usually use it on a separate layer (except if basic editing), then erase the portions that I don't want affected. I usually run it at low levels, so that when you flip back and forth between the two you don't see much change.



In the picture above, I kept the cloud portions (in the noise reduction layer) and erased (to show through) the trees/land portions.

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You could do the same with NI, using 2 separate identical images, NeatImaging one, pasting back into the original as a layer, deleting selected portions. I haven't checked if this is legal for DPC though.



I sort of overdid it on this one.

Message edited by author 2006-04-15 12:55:50.
 04/15/2006 12:55:44 PM · #25
Originally posted by ellamay:
thanks everyone, while I was sleeping ya all came up with some great exampes.
I am trying to get a more exagerated effect similar to geewhy's examples. I have a forest shot that I think it will work nicely on.
I am curious what the 'salt and pepper' filter is, I do not seem to have that one : )
thanks again


Like Steve says, I don't think Geehy's "effect" comes from NI. All these scenes have in common that they are strikingly backlit, and he has used localized processing control to play up that and produce the ethereal effect. I'd have suspected the first one used something like a "glow" action, but it's not in his notes.

Here's a landscape that was processed using a gothic glow layer to produce some of that effect in a relatively undramatic lighting situation:



Robt.
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