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08/26/2002 07:59:37 AM · #1 |
I hope this won't affect my rankings, but I feel it needs to be said. I have received 5 comments so far, ALL of them say "That's not what I did when I was a child." Now I could point out that unless you were born in Oxford, MS to a lady who grew up in Belgium and a career Navy man, then moved 13 times to 8 different states, your childhood MAY be different than mine.
People are NOT reading the details. I may have taken a poor picture of what I attempted (not my best work, I agree), but the details I wrote explained what the picture is of. People should read the details, shouldn't they? At least to know what the picture is of, if it is not readily obvious.
I will keep my comments to the validity of the photograph - unless it is an obvious violation (i.e. someone's social security check or an AARP card). I ask everyone to do the same.
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08/26/2002 08:09:25 AM · #2 |
| Wow - just reading some of the recent posts - I think some of yall need to relax just a tad - if you're cool with ur shot then y freak if somebody gives it a number you don't think is right? lol! |
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08/26/2002 08:23:11 AM · #3 |
If there's a way to read the details before the voting is over, I for one don't know what it is.
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08/26/2002 08:30:03 AM · #4 |
Try not to be annoyed. Sometimes the comments are just a passing thought or "conversation" rather than a critique. Of course, critique would be more useful to you..... ;)
The details you put in on your photo at submission time are not visible until the challenge is over. Often people go back to visit your photo at the end to see what it is about.
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08/26/2002 08:37:03 AM · #5 |
Okay, I apologize, I am still new at this and I thought the details would be there for people to see. I must not have read too many myself last time (oops!) Forget the rant about that...
Still, is it too much to ask to have critiques on the photos themselves rather than the appropriateness of the photographers' childhoods? |
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08/26/2002 08:49:13 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by MarkRob:
I hope this won't affect my rankings, but I feel it needs to be said. I have received 5 comments so far, ALL of them say "That's not what I did when I was a child." Now I could point out that unless you were born in Oxford, MS to a lady who grew up in Belgium and a career Navy man, then moved 13 times to 8 different states, your childhood MAY be different than mine.
People are NOT reading the details. I may have taken a poor picture of what I attempted (not my best work, I agree), but the details I wrote explained what the picture is of. People should read the details, shouldn't they? At least to know what the picture is of, if it is not readily obvious.
I will keep my comments to the validity of the photograph - unless it is an obvious violation (i.e. someone's social security check or an AARP card). I ask everyone to do the same.
End rant.
For my part, when voting, as long as it a 'a' childhood .. that's fine and as long ... as it does show without too much helo for th title.
(see other comments in 'childhood impression' thread
Lionel
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08/26/2002 08:52:42 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by MarkRob:
Okay, I apologize, I am still new at this and I thought the details would be there for people to see. I must not have read too many myself last time (oops!) Forget the rant about that...
Still, is it too much to ask to have critiques on the photos themselves rather than the appropriateness of the photographers' childhoods?
This challenge is not necessarily about the childhood of the photographer. It just says 'childhood'... could be any childhood... doesn't have to be your own :)
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08/26/2002 09:03:21 AM · #8 |
| I just had a thought - and this is for the administration - Mr. MarkRob's post demonstrates that a cause of alot of angst is that folks have a chance to include a title and comment in the first place. An alternative is to force grades on instrinsic value alone. Dissatisfaction is enabled if comments to assist the viewer are allowed. Unless this site is for adcopy type material (where the medium (or product) can be supported by text or context), the participants should be forced to communicate through their shot alone. My fish doesn't do it this week and that's because I had an opportunity to tie in tangentially with a cute set of words. I don't think this would happen in a gallery (viz., photo as art) - quality can not rely on titling and thankfully it's a squint away. I think accompanying text enables a recipient of a grade less than he or she thinks is appropriate to complain, or at least ask 'why didn't they get it?' If you wish participants to freak less on grades maybe you can put the titles (and comments for that matter) a 'click away'? It would improve submissions I'm sure (or maybe not - it may increase the assemblage format shots - lol!). Of course your website might prove less popular if you eliminate titling/comments. Now that's [not] funny! |
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08/26/2002 09:50:06 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by sgtpepper6344:
If you wish participants to freak less on grades ......
We could change the genetic coding of people!
Serious...freaking out is human nature and the natural course of evolution on a website like this for new people.
After about a month or 2 new folks either start to get the hang of the nature of the commenting/scoring and usually calm down or..find they don't like it and leave.
Plus it's Moanday :-)
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/26/2002 9:49:20 AM. |
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08/26/2002 10:04:29 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by MarkRob:
I hope this won't affect my rankings, but I feel it needs to be said. I have received 5 comments so far, ALL of them say "That's not what I did when I was a child." Now I could point out that unless you were born in Oxford, MS to a lady who grew up in Belgium and a career Navy man, then moved 13 times to 8 different states, your childhood MAY be different than mine.
People are NOT reading the details. I may have taken a poor picture of what I attempted (not my best work, I agree), but the details I wrote explained what the picture is of. People should read the details, shouldn't they? At least to know what the picture is of, if it is not readily obvious.
I will keep my comments to the validity of the photograph - unless it is an obvious violation (i.e. someone's social security check or an AARP card). I ask everyone to do the same.
End rant.
I agree, in spirit, with MarkRob. This challenge definitely is going to ask people to *think* just a little bit when voting. It's not about "MY" childhood, it's about *generic* childhood. Obviously everyone here did not grow up in the same place or same way ! I am looking at every photo as a definite representation of someone's childhood, and taking it from there. There are a few that I see no connection with childhood, but for the majority, I can see it. |
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08/26/2002 10:09:32 AM · #11 |
| So here is a question for everyone. If the topic were chips and someone posted a photo of french fries or something, even though they are both potatoes, you would consider it "not meeting the challenge?" |
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08/26/2002 10:20:58 AM · #12 |
| Hah! I'm assuming by "chips" you mean the things they call "crisps" in the UK (and we call "chips" in Australia) and not the things they call "chips" in the UK (which are like fat french fries) and we call "hot chips" in Australia.... :P :P :P |
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08/26/2002 10:23:32 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by lisae:
Hah! I'm assuming by "chips" you mean the things they call "crisps" in the UK (and we call "chips" in Australia) and not the things they call "chips" in the UK (which are like fat french fries) and we call "hot chips" in Australia.... :P :P :P
LOL!! ;) Therein lies the problem....!!! |
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08/26/2002 10:36:29 AM · #14 |
MY POINT EXACTLY! Not everyone would know this!! It would be shot down by uneducated americans in a heartbeat, where as all the Aussies would be giving it 10's! THIS is why there is always a 1 on a 10 quality photo. THIS is why good photos get the big "doesn't meet challenge" and THIS is the reason for peoples anguish. I'm not going to shoot something down because of MY ignorance. And since this is also a "personal" experience challenge...congrats to everyone for meeting the challenge this week. I will keep it in mind, that it could be from personal childhood, or from (god forbid) a DIFFERENT childhood than mine. If I absolutely "dont get it" I'll let you know, but also keep my mind open to judging. Just because we don't ride camels to school here in Kalamazoo Michigan, doesn't mean they don't somewhere else.
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/26/2002 10:35:54 AM. |
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08/26/2002 10:38:30 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by hbunch7187:
So here is a question for everyone. If the topic were chips and someone posted a photo of french fries or something, even though they are both potatoes, you would consider it "not meeting the challenge?"
You mean something like this ?
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08/26/2002 11:00:28 AM · #16 |
| Yup, I mean something exactly like that. I have no clue what it is, but it's pretty small and it's hard to see detail. Assuming that you were refering to my "chips" comment, i would try to envision that as possibly being computer chips, but I don't really know what they look like for sure, so you could probably pull the wool over my eyes very easily here, but I would rather err in your favor, then make a bad call on a good photo JUST because I don't know what I'm talking about. Those "capacitors" in the something new challenge definately had me stumped, but I commented on that, and rated it accordingly, as something that looked new, no matter what it actually was. LOL. |
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08/26/2002 09:14:46 PM · #17 |
| The problem with this challenge is that a lot of the photos seem to rely on the title to fit, but taking the title into account, I haven't yet seen any that don't fit. |
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08/26/2002 09:44:39 PM · #18 |
I understand your issue completely :) Not sure which photo is yours, but there are several that have taken "shots" simply for showing a bad childhood. I see my ratings drop as more comments are added saying how disturbing my photograph is, and that is probably the BEST compliment (even though they may have rated me lower), because the point of art in general isn't to make people feel happy all the time, it's to give an emotional response, a feeling, a different view from the norm.
Originally posted by MarkRob:
I hope this won't affect my rankings, but I feel it needs to be said. I have received 5 comments so far, ALL of them say "That's not what I did when I was a child." Now I could point out that unless you were born in Oxford, MS to a lady who grew up in Belgium and a career Navy man, then moved 13 times to 8 different states, your childhood MAY be different than mine.
People are NOT reading the details. I may have taken a poor picture of what I attempted (not my best work, I agree), but the details I wrote explained what the picture is of. People should read the details, shouldn't they? At least to know what the picture is of, if it is not readily obvious.
I will keep my comments to the validity of the photograph - unless it is an obvious violation (i.e. someone's social security check or an AARP card). I ask everyone to do the same.
End rant.
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08/26/2002 09:49:21 PM · #19 |
Gordon, is it an outtake of pencils ?
I like it , hard to see exactly though.
Could you post it somewhere in full ?
Lionel
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