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02/16/2003 02:06:01 PM · #1
I'm sure this has been discussed before but I will ask again.
Why exactly aren't the camera settings being allowed to be shown during voting? One of the things I believe this will lead to is better comments. I just finished critiquing a photo for the CC which had a slow shutter speed which caused the photo to have a lot of shake in the image. Now, I read the comments and a few people eluded to camera shake but they were not certain. Perhaps better comments could/would be made had the people seen what the settings were? Maybe leave the camera make & model since that could cause some irrelevant comments be made but I don't see the reason why we can't show the shutter speed, aperture and iso.
02/16/2003 02:11:31 PM · #2
Originally posted by psychephylax:

I'm sure this has been discussed before but I will ask again.
Why exactly aren't the camera settings being allowed to be shown during voting? One of the things I believe this will lead to is better comments. I just finished critiquing a photo for the CC which had a slow shutter speed which caused the photo to have a lot of shake in the image. Now, I read the comments and a few people eluded to camera shake but they were not certain. Perhaps better comments could/would be made had the people seen what the settings were? Maybe leave the camera make & model since that could cause some irrelevant comments be made but I don't see the reason why we can't show the shutter speed, aperture and iso.


well said! It is much easy to make an effective critique when you have a better idea of how the shot was done.. that way you can make better and clearer suggestions... I think this should be an immediate item up for change...

Message edited by author 2003-02-16 14:11:47.
02/16/2003 02:13:37 PM · #3
As I do CC comments, I see that a large number of people don't submit that information with their photo, even though their camera is capable of recording EXIF data...
02/16/2003 02:15:32 PM · #4
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

As I do CC comments, I see that a large number of people don't submit that information with their photo, even though their camera is capable of recording EXIF data...


maybe because they know we won;t see the information. I have thought about that as I am entering, thinking, "why do I have to do this, no one can see it".. I enter it anyway, but some probably don't... if people knew it might help them get more effective critiques, they might be more willing to enter the info... :o)
02/16/2003 02:18:24 PM · #5
It does show post-competition, and with the CC entries and the "Browse Recently commented-on" feature, I think there are more post-competition comments being made. You can always go back and add to your previous comment if your opinion is changed by seeing the camera data.
02/16/2003 02:22:28 PM · #6
Originally posted by GeneralE:

It does show post-competition, and with the CC entries and the "Browse Recently commented-on" feature, I think there are more post-competition comments being made. You can always go back and add to your previous comment if your opinion is changed by seeing the camera data.


I really don't think a lot of older images get critiques besides top 3 and CC's but I could be wrong, I don't have the information for this. I really don't see why it couldn't be visible.
02/16/2003 02:39:15 PM · #7
I'd be fine with it being posted -- I was just pointing out that there was still a reason to enter it even though it might not show during the voting.
I personally am an advocate of allowing the photographer's notes to show as well.
02/16/2003 03:15:12 PM · #8
The one problem I have with displaying camera information is that it can reveal what camera was possibly used making it easier to identify the photographer. If someone puts down an aperture of F16 or a shutter speed of 1/8000 I emmediately know that the photo was probably taken with a pro camera and it could affect my voting by maybe causing me to have higher expectations for that person. There are not nearly as many pro cameras being used so, by considering the type of photo I was critiquing, I might get a pretty good idea who the phtographer is. I think that only the photo is relevant and other additional information could be used to sway the voting. I don't think that information is necessary to critique a photo. You don't have to know waht shutter speed was used to tell the photographer that their photo appears too dark or underexposed. Anyway, that's what I think.

T
02/16/2003 08:19:53 PM · #9
Originally posted by timj351:

The one problem I have with displaying camera information is that it can reveal what camera was possibly used making it easier to identify the photographer. If someone puts down an aperture of F16 or a shutter speed of 1/8000 I emmediately know that the photo was probably taken with a pro camera and it could affect my voting by maybe causing me to have higher expectations for that person. There are not nearly as many pro cameras being used so, by considering the type of photo I was critiquing, I might get a pretty good idea who the phtographer is. I think that only the photo is relevant and other additional information could be used to sway the voting. I don't think that information is necessary to critique a photo. You don't have to know waht shutter speed was used to tell the photographer that their photo appears too dark or underexposed. Anyway, that's what I think.

T


seems like there are just too many people for someone to go around trying to remember what cameras do what and who is using them
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