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 02/13/2006 02:29:55 AM · #1
I am little disappointed after looking through Country Life II entries. I expected more than country landscapes or farm animal pictures. Maybe, it is just my wrong understanding of the title. I would not complain if the title of the challenge was Country Side.
 02/13/2006 02:34:28 AM · #2
Originally posted by artvet:
I would not complain if the title of the challenge was Country Side.


Or a farm animal?
 02/13/2006 03:01:22 AM · #3
Ah, life in the country, where you can see the countryside, and if you're really lucky, some farm animals.
 02/13/2006 03:03:47 AM · #4
Look through a copy of the United Kingdom's upper class magazine "Country Life". It is full of images just like those we're seeing in the challenge that have a house, people or animals in a country setting. Just landscapes with none of those things are rare.

Brett
 02/13/2006 03:07:00 AM · #5
Originally posted by Pug-H:
Ah, life in the country, where you can see the countryside, and if you're really lucky, some farm animals.

Yeah, but I gotta admit that about halfway through the voting I realized many of the shots really don't depict "life in the country" - I don't feel like being much of a challenge nazi these days though.

Originally posted by Challenge Description:
Take your best shot at depicting life in the country.

 02/13/2006 03:25:04 AM · #6
Country Landscapes in my mind do depict country living. They show the openess, the tranquility, the smog free air. Wher ein the city can you see these scenes?

Farm animals. They live on a farm. Farms are in the country. Thus country life again is being depicted. I have yet to see a pair of swine, or cows with tags in their ears, or stables of horses in the city. When you see these photos of farm animals, doesn't your mind take you to the farm they must live on? Or are some folks so trapped in their box that they can no longer envision things they dont actively live?

I saw very few images that I did not feel fit well into Country Life depicted.

02/13/2006 03:32:39 AM · #7
For the record, I didn't vote down any that showed farm animals or country landscapes, I just made a mental observation that many did not depict "life" with the exception of the [living] animals, of course. It really has nothing to do with City vs. Country, it has to do with "depicting life" or "living", which I interpret as people (or animals) doing what they do in the country. But like I said - I'm not a challenge nazi and you could argue that the "life" is that of the photographer taking the pictures of the countryside.

Edit to add:
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
Or are some folks so trapped in their box that they can no longer envision things they dont actively live?

That's a bit much. It irks me when people use derogatory phrases to describe others whose opinion may not appear to align with their own - I'm not trapped in a box and some might say I have a quite active imagination. ;-)

Message edited by author 2006-02-13 03:46:53.
 02/13/2006 03:45:56 AM · #8
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
... some might say I have a quite active imagination. ;-)


bit of an understatement!
 02/13/2006 04:00:45 AM · #9
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:


Edit to add:
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
Or are some folks so trapped in their box that they can no longer envision things they dont actively live?

That's a bit much. It irks me when people use derogatory phrases to describe others whose opinion may not appear to align with their own - I'm not trapped in a box and some might say I have a quite active imagination. ;-)


Ken, in no way was that direct at you. It was not directed at anyone in particular. I just feel that some people - meaning people in general - can get too trapped in their own box. Like the old saying "can't see the forest for the trees". I did not make any derogatory statement in putting out my own opinion.

Message edited by author 2006-02-13 04:08:53.
 02/13/2006 04:05:40 AM · #10
Originally posted by artvet:
I am little disappointed after looking through Country Life II entries. I expected more than country landscapes or farm animal pictures. Maybe, it is just my wrong understanding of the title. I would not complain if the title of the challenge was Country Side.


I'm curious to know what you expected to see?
 02/13/2006 04:09:40 AM · #11
Originally posted by Xilebo:
Originally posted by artvet:
I am little disappointed after looking through Country Life II entries. I expected more than country landscapes or farm animal pictures. Maybe, it is just my wrong understanding of the title. I would not complain if the title of the challenge was Country Side.


I'm curious to know what you expected to see?


Probably, shots of people actually living their lives in the country. But the majority of entrants chose to depict scenes or details that represent life in the country to them. Including me, I might add...

R.
 02/13/2006 04:10:22 AM · #12
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
Art, in no way was that direct at you. It was not directed at anyone in particular.

Fair enough - not a big deal - don't want to turn this into a big "thing" - Lord knows there's enough of those. :)
 02/13/2006 04:10:23 AM · #13
I think no matter what the title of a challenge is, it will always be debated as to whether the photographer met the criteria. Even if the title was changed to country side, I think people would say that a prairie picture with animals does not meet the challenge, since animals are not a country side. In the end, unless the picture is an obvious desregard for meeting the criteria (i.e. for this challenge, a picture of a baseball), the photos should be judged on their physical merits and not so much on their subjective merits. Just my opinion though...
 02/13/2006 06:18:42 AM · #14
Originally posted by CzechMan:
I think no matter what the title of a challenge is, it will always be debated as to whether the photographer met the criteria. Even if the title was changed to country side, I think people would say that a prairie picture with animals does not meet the challenge, since animals are not a country side. In the end, unless the picture is an obvious desregard for meeting the criteria (i.e. for this challenge, a picture of a baseball), the photos should be judged on their physical merits and not so much on their subjective merits. Just my opinion though...


I agree totally! I have always lived in the country. I grew up on a farm for goodness sake. I didn't get through all of the entries yet, but I didn't see ONE picture that I would not consider country life. They don't all have to be farmers working, geese a laying, or maids a milking people. Farm life is country, but that isn't the only kind of country life. Farms are country life, hunting is country life, even old broke down farms where once country life. I really enjoyed this challenge since it hit so close to home. So far I have picked many favs and given out many high scores. I think that everyone did a great job. My score sucks. I LOVE my picture. It represents a part of country life. I know it does because I know no other kind of life. I hope my score gets better. But if not, thats ok. I will live.
 02/13/2006 06:23:05 AM · #15
Who said country LIFE had to be HUMAN? Lots of things are alive, animals and landscape scenery included. ;)
 02/13/2006 06:25:17 AM · #16
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Who said country LIFE had to be HUMAN? Lots of things are alive, animals and landscape scenery included. ;)


AMEN sister!
 02/13/2006 10:23:22 AM · #17
Originally posted by mandyturner:

I agree totally! I have always lived in the country. I grew up on a farm for goodness sake. I didn't get through all of the entries yet, but I didn't see ONE picture that I would not consider country life. They don't all have to be farmers working, geese a laying, or maids a milking people. Farm life is country, but that isn't the only kind of country life. Farms are country life, hunting is country life, even old broke down farms where once country life. I really enjoyed this challenge since it hit so close to home. So far I have picked many favs and given out many high scores. I think that everyone did a great job. My score sucks. I LOVE my picture. It represents a part of country life. I know it does because I know no other kind of life. I hope my score gets better. But if not, thats ok. I will live.


I agree....I grew up in a small town with the country all around me and when I was married lived on a 120 acre ranch, milking cows for a living....I've really enjoyed the photos of this challenge....I even had one to enter!!!!....but didn't get it done in time :/ (that's what happens when ya wait until the last minute)

02/13/2006 10:45:32 AM · #18
it never fails to surprise me that these threads pop up. I admit that there have been a few challenges that leave a little to the imagination as to what to shoot but mostly it is not the challenge topic that is the problem it is the voters. Country life is pretty simple in my mind...if it has lots of big brick buildings, pavement, cars, public transportation, people and never really stops moving then it is city. Everything else is country. Country can even be a small rural town when compared to the city. Farms, farm animals, farmers, barns, wide open spaces (as few as there may be left) are the very thing country life is made of.

Got a tip for anyone finding it hard to decide if an image fits the challenge(s) or not...If you can't decide whether the photographer is right or wrong in their idea of the subject then you have no right voting on it and you should skip it. Don't give it a low score just because it doesn't fit your vision, leave a comment and continue on. Or better yet score it on how well they executed the image, not the image itself.
 02/13/2006 11:00:19 AM · #19
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
Farms are in the country. Thus country life again is being depicted. I have yet to see a pair of swine, or cows with tags in their ears, or stables of horses in the city.


I had to smile when I saw this comment, it is not really relevant to the challenge but if you visit Wimbledon in London, a tiny congested village (Home of the Wimbledon tennis Tournament), stuck down a little alley behind a pub/bar are stables that house about 25 horses!!!!! Completely surrounded by stores, offices and other buildings. They ride through the town streets to get to the common where they have trails that they ride on.

Just a little bit of useless information LOL.
 02/13/2006 11:06:03 AM · #20
AMEN!!!!!
Originally posted by sabphoto:
it never fails to surprise me that these threads pop up. I admit that there have been a few challenges that leave a little to the imagination as to what to shoot but mostly it is not the challenge topic that is the problem it is the voters. Country life is pretty simple in my mind...if it has lots of big brick buildings, pavement, cars, public transportation, people and never really stops moving then it is city. Everything else is country. Country can even be a small rural town when compared to the city. Farms, farm animals, farmers, barns, wide open spaces (as few as there may be left) are the very thing country life is made of.

Got a tip for anyone finding it hard to decide if an image fits the challenge(s) or not...If you can't decide whether the photographer is right or wrong in their idea of the subject then you have no right voting on it and you should skip it. Don't give it a low score just because it doesn't fit your vision, leave a comment and continue on. Or better yet score it on how well they executed the image, not the image itself.
02/13/2006 11:18:39 AM · #21
I live in a little town in Arkansas population 1230. It is one of the largest towns within about a 45 minute drive. I see "country life" all day every day. In my town there is a huge lumber mill. Would that be classified as counrty life? Or the acres upon acres of freshly dozed over timber land? The leaves are all of of the trees. Everything have a dull monotone color to it. We are in the middle of a drought. The local lahe is over 12' low. The birds have all headed south. Considering all of that I think eveyone did a pretty good job.
 02/13/2006 11:18:51 AM · #22
Originally posted by mandyturner:
My score sucks. I LOVE my picture. It represents a part of country life. I know it does because I know no other kind of life. I hope my score gets better. But if not, thats ok. I will live.


Mine too, and me too :)
 02/13/2006 11:24:45 AM · #23
I would have loved to find some cowboys sitting on a fence while another "breaks" a horse if you don't live near that type of setting, stumbling upon one is difficult. My luck, I'd go to a horse ranch and they would be breeding/artificial inseminating brood mares!

I hope that the objections to country landscapes and farm animals doesn't sway the objectivity of the votes, as sometimes these forums seem to do.

I'm with you, Mandy! My score isn't what I had hoped and sure won't medal but I love it!
 02/13/2006 11:25:44 AM · #24
I have this vision:

A photo shoot involving a guy on a tractor pulling a honey wagon (manure spreader to city folk)surrounded by photographers getting just the right shot for the Challenge. And praying for the wind to die down.

'scuse me, I just love these threads. No offence to anyone is intended.
;>)
 02/13/2006 11:28:27 AM · #25
Part of country life is living in the countryside, is it not?

Inf fact, if you were not in the countryside, then you can't live a country life.

Considering that country life - countryside = city life, then I think you should re-evaluate your narrow minded-ness.

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