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08/19/2002 11:22:24 AM · #1 |
The predominant complaint this week was that the tomato was out of focus. Did the camera miss it by the tomato not being in the center or did the roundness of the object leave the focal field because the focal point was on the edge? I suspect the Egg picture had the same problem. :( Should I have entered Double crown instead?
oops outtakes
aelith
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/19/2002 11:48:27 AM. |
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08/19/2002 11:24:45 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by aelith:
The predominant complaint this week was that the tomato was out of focus. Did the camera miss it by the tomato not being in the center or did the roundness of the object leave the focal field because the focal point was on the edge? I suspect the Egg picture had the same problem. :( Should I have entered Double crown instead?
aelith
This is possibly the case... there is a way to fix this tho :) When you compose your photo, focus on the scene with the tomato in the center, hold the button half way down, then move the camera to compose your shot... then press the button the rest of the way to take the photo...
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08/19/2002 11:44:25 AM · #3 |
aelith,
I've had the same thing happen to me before, too... autofocus was really made for taking snapshots where the subject is in the center of the frame. Fortunately, most cameras nowadays will allow you to just what John had described: put the tomato dead center in your frame, push the shutter button half-down and hold it while you recompose your shot, and then click!
In any case, I loved this photo even with the slightly blurred tomato (and I am usually really keen on having a sharp subject). There was so much play with the contrast and the light and the color and the texture... this was my top pick for the week.... I was very dissappointed to see its final rank.
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/19/2002 11:44:14 AM. |
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08/19/2002 11:47:21 AM · #4 |
| Thank you! one more lesson learned. *grin* |
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08/19/2002 02:25:15 PM · #5 |
I can't really speak to the focus as that's one of my points of weakness with my Minolta and I haven't yet figured out if it's me or the camera. (Likely it's me.)
I did want to respond to your request for a critique though. First, I rated it a 7. To me, seven means solid photo that appeals to me in some way, but something is lacking. Truth be told I don't always know what that something is.
Things that really appealed to me about your shot:
I liked the color - nothing distracting from the variety of greens, and enough variations in green to provide its own contrast. Often people think contrast means green needs to be up agaist red or orange. I think if you can accomplish it wishout that, all the better. Kudos on that point.
I also liked the framing. A lot actually. I liked this better than the other tomatoe photos because the tomato was not centered. After looking at your outtakes, I offer you my compliments in that you framed the shot using your camera rather than your editing tools. That's a talent that many of us don't bother trying any more since cropping is so easy, but it's one that means a lot to me. Great job.
I like the variety of textures you captured. And I think that had the tomatoe been in focus, you'd have lost the shaper detail in the leaf and vine, which to me are far more interesting. That would have been a dear sacrifice in my book.
Things that bothered me:
The shadow over the tomato seems a bit much for me. I wouldn't want to lose it altogether as I think it kin of guides the eye, but I found it very stark.
Seven is a good score from me. Ten means exceptional; nine fantastic; 8 beautiful and well executed. Seven is a nice above average photo. Part of it for me is I need to be INTERESTED. There seems to be no way to confine that to a scoring rubric. It's either there or it isn't. I was less interested in this photo than I was impressed by it's merits.
Hope this helps. Sorry so long.
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08/19/2002 08:58:12 PM · #6 |
| Thanks JM for your understanding critique. The dark shadow in the upper right is the result of trying to minimize the blowout in the high light. Funny thing is I don't remember it being quite that dark before I posted it. :P. |
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08/19/2002 09:07:31 PM · #7 |
Strangely, I've found that the "Save for Web" feature darkens my image and heightens the saturation. I find myself desaturating images before saving in order to end up with the effect I want. I don't know if you're using Photoshop or this feature, but if so, there's a heads up.
Then it may have something to do with my particular installation or some preference I've set. My hubby is the Photoshop guru. I know just enough to get by.
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08/19/2002 09:12:10 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by just-married:
Strangely, I've found that the "Save for Web" feature darkens my image and heightens the saturation. I find myself desaturating images before saving in order to end up with the effect I want. I don't know if you're using Photoshop or this feature, but if so, there's a heads up.
Then it may have something to do with my particular installation or some preference I've set. My hubby is the Photoshop guru. I know just enough to get by.
Dawn
Do you have the 'ICC profile' option selected ? That could well
be messing things up when you save...
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08/19/2002 09:23:42 PM · #9 |
| Gordan I have PSP7. What is ICC profile. Should it be checked or unchecked? |
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08/19/2002 09:32:59 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by aelith:
Gordan I have PSP7. What is ICC profile. Should it be checked or unchecked?
Ah. Thought the question was referring to Photoshop. Don't think
PSP supports any colour profiles or ICC/ICM stuff (used for ensuring printed
colours actually come out the same as the colours on the screen - certainly
not normally an easy thing to ensure)
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08/19/2002 09:52:38 PM · #11 |
| Well rats, I just looked again at the original, the compressed picture in my upload file and and here and on PBase. The darks ARE darker; to the point of loosing lots of detail. pooh. |
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08/19/2002 10:18:00 PM · #12 |
| Hmmm, sorry it didn't help you aelith, but perhaps it will save me having to desaturate all my photos. I am using Photoshop 6. Where would I find the 'ICC profile' option to know if I have it selected? Sorry for my elementary need here. Learning PS as I go. Thanks in advance, Dawn |
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08/19/2002 10:24:40 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by just-married:
Hmmm, sorry it didn't help you aelith, but perhaps it will save me having to desaturate all my photos. I am using Photoshop 6. Where would I find the 'ICC profile' option to know if I have it selected? Sorry for my elementary need here. Learning PS as I go. Thanks in advance, Dawn
If you select 'save for web' there is an option to attach an ICC profile.
If you don't know what it does or aren't planning on getting the picture
printed, it is best to leave it unchecked.
Also are you saving as gifs or jpegs ? For pictures it tends to be
better to use jpegs.
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/19/2002 10:24:50 PM.
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