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02/07/2006 10:15:51 AM · #1
I've been hesitating to submit this for Abstract II, and in the end I was too late to enter.

What do you think? Should I have submitted it anyway? Or is it not abstract enough?
02/07/2006 10:18:08 AM · #2
I like it a lot. It really says 'wet sunday' to me. Very interesting use of colour and light/ shape.

I did a whole series in this sort of theme, which has been thunderous in its lack of comments and any reaction whatsoever ;)

Abbazia di Sant'Antimo

I think this style of photography (ala Uta Barth) really needs consistant practice to do anything significant (just like any other style or branch of photography I guess). Stick with it and you'll start to notice everything as abstract collections of light, shape and colour. Your 'real' photographs will then benefit from the abstracted sense of composition you can bring to the scene, even when everything is in focus.

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02/07/2006 10:19:08 AM · #3
I like the idea however I think slightly more focus would improve it (just to give a tiny bit more definition to the figures).

More colour saturation on the umbrellas might help as well.

As far as how it would do in the challenge .... I would have given it a 6 or 7. Who's to say what the voting community as a whole would rate it.

02/07/2006 10:19:37 AM · #4
It's nice, but I think it's more impressionistic.
JMHO. :)
02/07/2006 10:27:28 AM · #5
Gordon, left you a comment on pbase. I agree with your remark about practice, it's a very nice way to practice looking beyond the ordinary!

Originally posted by Gordon:

I like it a lot. It really says 'wet sunday' to me. Very interesting use of colour and light/ shape.

I did a whole series in this sort of theme, which has been thunderous in its lack of comments and any reaction whatsoever ;)

Abbazia di Sant'Antimo

I think this style of photography (ala Uta Barth) really needs consistant practice to do anything significant (just like any other style or branch of photography I guess). Stick with it and you'll start to notice everything as abstract collections of light, shape and colour. Your 'real' photographs will then benefit from the abstracted sense of composition you can bring to the scene, even when everything is in focus.
02/07/2006 10:39:27 AM · #6
Originally posted by nicoledb:

I've been hesitating to submit this for Abstract II, and in the end I was too late to enter.

What do you think? Should I have submitted it anyway? Or is it not abstract enough?


Hmmm...link not working?
02/07/2006 10:57:06 AM · #7
It has pretty colour, a translucent impressionistic character - I think a traditional approach to a abstract reduction/recreation and study of your chosen form. You should have entered it.
02/07/2006 11:03:33 AM · #8
Seems pbase is down right now, couldn't connect myself either.

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by nicoledb:

I've been hesitating to submit this for Abstract II, and in the end I was too late to enter.

What do you think? Should I have submitted it anyway? Or is it not abstract enough?


Hmmm...link not working?
02/07/2006 11:11:19 AM · #9
Ok...just got in. Well, the image is different, that much I can say. ;^) I kept expecting it to come into focus, like an image transition - blurry to focus. A little too soft & fuzzy for my taste on abstract.
02/07/2006 11:21:55 AM · #10
I think is lack vibrancy. The focus is OK for me, but it really needs to have some light reflecting off wet surfaces. As it is its a little dull
02/07/2006 11:35:04 AM · #11
What a lovely style! I am so glad you posted this - I had never heard of Uta Barth, and it opens all sorts of new possibilities, things to think about.

I really like your photo, Nicole, it almost look like two groups of penguins staring at each other. I like the sense of horizontal reflection you get from it, and, in a small scale, the sense of aggression, almost like, "Hey, these two groups are going to attack each other with their pink and red umbrellas." You could write a whole story around this.


02/07/2006 12:26:13 PM · #12
I think you made the right choice holding it back. It is a lovely mood, but it seems that to garner decent votes you need highly structured and tightly focused abstracts, i.e. the normal rules of what get good scores here are in effect for this challenge. I would be interested to know how many of the voters in this challenge like, or ever seek out shows of abstract art.
02/07/2006 12:43:27 PM · #13
Nicole, I like your shot a lot, I don't think it is strictly an abstract, but it does not matter to me. The only thing which bothers me a little is the relatively sharp red circle in the right/top part of the frame (glare?). I think you should blur it to match the rest of the photo.
02/07/2006 01:46:00 PM · #14
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

I think you made the right choice holding it back. It is a lovely mood, but it seems that to garner decent votes you need highly structured and tightly focused abstracts, i.e. the normal rules of what get good scores here are in effect for this challenge. I would be interested to know how many of the voters in this challenge like, or ever seek out shows of abstract art.


I would say that there is a few who are interested in abstract, and visit a gallery, a few more who utilize the tool of abstraction effectively. However, abstract is suspect on dpc - and hardly considered an avenue of study on its own merit, even though it is used in many manifestations submitted here, even though we have paid lip service to it in two challenges. It is an important basic visual element and can make powerful psychological purpose, for the artist in creation and for the viewer to establish a personal contact and intrepretation. The business of dpc is not necessarily art. Often our aim is mundane commercial business, and we have lots of threads on that subject. Description and depiction of nature and life which can best be done by photography or bookeeping does not always draw pertinent conclusions, or create a new value to enlighten. Abstract is an opportunity to explore and reestablish for ourselves a purpose for art. It is one the most important challenges we have.
02/07/2006 01:50:15 PM · #15
I think it's a beautiful image, but then I'm a big fan of Gordon's as well (they were some of the most impressive images I saw when I first came to DPC). However, I suspect it may not have done well with other users, for reasons given here. I probably would have given you an 8.
02/07/2006 01:51:18 PM · #16
Originally posted by undieyatch:

I would say that there is a few who are interested in abstract, and visit a gallery, a few more who utilize the tool of abstraction effectively. However, abstract is suspect on dpc - and hardly considered an avenue of study on its own merit, even though it is used in many manifestations submitted here, even though we have paid lip service to it in two challenges. It is an important basic visual element and can make powerful psychological purpose, for the artist in creation and for the viewer to establish a personal contact and intrepretation. The business of dpc is not necessarily art. Often our aim is mundane commercial business, and we have lots of threads on that subject. Description and depiction of nature and life which can best be done by photography or bookeeping does not always draw pertinent conclusions, or create a new value to enlighten. Abstract is an opportunity to explore and reestablish for ourselves a purpose for art. It is one the most important challenges we have.


Or we could just shoot road signs

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