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01/12/2006 01:18:38 PM · #1 |
I am wondering whether it's possible to enter a choice that indicates whether the photo falls into the Challenge. When we vote for photos, those photos that do not get the majority vote that they are within the parameters of the project, they have no chance of reaching the top places.
It chould also be set up that those who eliminate photos if they don't fulfil a challenge rule, that they themselves drop out if they do not fulfil the conditions of a challenge.
I am saying this because more and more challenges are full of photos that do not fit the conditions and some have even won awards, which of course shouldn't be possible.
Just think about this withouth making a hundred enemies. Look into your mind regarding this point, think about how much less work and disappointment this would cause.
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01/12/2006 01:37:36 PM · #2 |
Are you saying there should be a box to check during voting for DNMC? I'm not sure what you think should happen to these entries.
And are you saying if I feel an entry does not meet the challenge then I should drop out if I don't meet the challenge?
Not agreeing or disagreeing at this point, just trying to understand. I certainly think meeting the challenge is most important, and strive to meet every challenge I enter (and I think I have been successful so far). I definitely agree that there seem to be more off topic entries lately. |
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01/12/2006 01:43:26 PM · #3 |
This was brought up recently, but I can't find the thread... (Oh, great and wonderful mk, can you find the thread?)
The problem that comes up is that the photog can honestly have the view that from his/her experiences that the image represents the challnge topic. You would remove entries that think too-far-outside-the-box. I don't that this is a good idea, because I think people should be allow to try to push the edges.
There are many create people here and to start clipping wings for being creative is not good. |
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01/12/2006 01:49:40 PM · #4 |
Photography and the emotions people attach to ideas are too subjective to be eliminated via a DNMC checkbox.
99% of the time scores will tell if a photo meets the challenge.
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01/12/2006 02:45:51 PM · #5 |
IMO it's rarely the case that a top-10 image does not meet the challenge at all. Those who think it doesn't are, again IMO, applying a too-limited definition of the challenge. Any attempt to do something like what's proposed here would be the kiss of death on creativity in this site.
I'm a LOT less concerned with images that DNMTC scoring high (rarely happens) than I am with images that DO meet the challenge and are excellent images in their own right being hammered by voters who wear conceptual blinders.
Using my own work as examples, I'm willing to accept that most voters simply can't see the first of these as meeting the "self portrait" challenge, although speaking for myself I believe it's a valid self portrait. I'm much less willing to accept that the second does not meet the one-word challenge "mother". Both finished way, way down at the bottom of the pile, and both are excellent images IMO.
 
In neither case do I feel that any "punishment" other than my low score is warranted by my having had the nerve to enter these images in their respective challenges. And by the same token, if the photographer thinks his ribbon-winner is on topic and if the voters agree (which they obviously did), then who are we to take that away?
R.
Message edited by author 2006-01-12 14:46:38. |
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01/12/2006 03:07:54 PM · #6 |
I have that shameless disposition that the challenge and its description is only the pretext to encourage a hunt and creation of images. I love to see beautiful images and my weakness has managed to broaden my interpretation which allows a beautiful image to earn my respect. This happens when you are addicted to beauty.
Yes, meeting the challenge head on, along with a beautiful image guarantees a higher mark. But I never considered DPC to be an advertising agency handing out paid assignments. Those that are slightly off the mark can find refuge in my voting. The lovelier the image, the higher the vote.
This is not to downplay the voter whose critical hawk eye is expecting adherence to challenge despcription more than to beauty. This is alright but I learn more by observing than by criticizing. I am critical more of technique than meeting the challenge.
I know, some will say why even bother with the challenge. The truth is that there are many more who are obsessed with the meaning of a description and this is more often important to them. No argument from me. I believe I am the deviant but I do it only for beauty.
Undrstand I can not say the above with a straight face even though that is who I am. lol |
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01/12/2006 03:12:57 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
I believe I am the deviant but I do it only for beauty.
Undrstand I can not say the above with a straight face even though that is who I am. lol |
Yup, must be pretty hard for the creator of this bizarre image to keep a straight face as he says "I'm only in it for the beauty", jejeje� (all in good fun, Daniel)
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01/12/2006 03:19:17 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by _eug:
This was brought up recently, but I can't find the thread... (Oh, great and wonderful mk, can you find the thread?)
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Is this the one you mean? Not quite sure which thread you were referring to. |
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01/12/2006 03:23:33 PM · #9 |
| Sorry: I am guilty of not defining beauty...Nevermind. I indulge in the beauty of "concepts" when I contribute and then I enjoy seeing beautiful visual images. I separate images into two camps: visual beauties and conceptual beauties. Bigger marks for a conceptual beauty that is also a visual gem. I am just no good. |
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01/12/2006 03:23:36 PM · #10 |
Daniel Ugly picture can also be really good
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01/12/2006 04:49:43 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
Sorry: I am guilty of not defining beauty...Nevermind. I indulge in the beauty of "concepts" when I contribute and then I enjoy seeing beautiful visual images. I separate images into two camps: visual beauties and conceptual beauties. Bigger marks for a conceptual beauty that is also a visual gem. I am just no good. |
I may not have made my point clear, I was being so sly: the "face" in that image is anything but "straight". The image itself is beautiful.
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01/12/2006 04:50:46 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by _eug:
This was brought up recently, but I can't find the thread... (Oh, great and wonderful mk, can you find the thread?)
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Is this the one you mean? Not quite sure which thread you were referring to. |
Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle if that wasn't the one I was looking for. mk, you really are miraculous. ;) |
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