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01/13/2003 04:35:52 PM · #1 |
Some people might be more inclined to leave feedback if it could be a bit quicker for the voter. Have you ever thought about having another form that gives the voter to assign a number to each part of the photo, such as
Meets the Challenge:
Composition:
Clarity:
Originality:
Etc.:
It would also be a reminder to newbies what issues should determine a good photo for the challenge.
They could even be averaged out for the final vote number...
Just a thought, I would like to see my photos rated in such as fashion by those voting, and would like to do the same for others. I comment on almost every photo I vote on, and it is really time consuming.
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01/13/2003 04:38:46 PM · #2 |
| This has been discussed quite a few times. Every time it comes up, it boils down to no one 'having enuff time' to vote like that... it's unfortunate because i think it would be a better way of voting also... |
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01/13/2003 04:47:16 PM · #3 |
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Message edited by author 2003-01-13 18:13:00. |
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01/13/2003 04:52:44 PM · #4 |
Would it be possible to give the voters a choice.
1. An area to vote as it is.
2. An area where you could choose to do a selection process.
Have it default to the original. I'm probably not making myself clear, so bear with me.
I have always been in favor of a way to designate a certain score for each of the important categories that a picture should be judged on. |
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01/13/2003 05:10:32 PM · #5 |
The problem I see with comments is that if you don't have an exceptionally good or bad photo, you get very few comments. If I look back at my photos, the ones that got the most are the best and the worst. Unfortunatly, most of mine are in the middle.
My voting/commenting process is to finish my voting first. Then I comment. When I comment, I comment on one of the best, then I go to the end and vote on one of the lowest, then I go to the middle and comment on a mid range photo. I realize that there's a lot of jumping around, but as one who usually scores in the middle, and since I don't have the time or bandwidth to comment on them all, I like to make sure that my comments are more evenly distributed. |
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01/13/2003 05:18:42 PM · #6 |
There could be an option of chosing one way or the other, just like we have an option to leave a comment and vote or just vote. It wouldn't have to be mandatory.
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
This has been discussed quite a few times. Every time it comes up, it boils down to no one 'having enuff time' to vote like that... it's unfortunate because i think it would be a better way of voting also... |
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01/13/2003 05:49:24 PM · #7 |
Maybe instead of the current "Click here to leave a comment" or whatever it says in the box, try putting something in there like:
"Click here to leave a comment, you might like to comment on different aspects such as composition, focusing, blah blah blah"
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01/13/2003 06:12:00 PM · #8 |
Here's an idea. It may be difficult to explain so please bear with me. It's much like what has already been suggested but with some options. In the ratings page for a photo we have two voting methods and you can choose one or the other, not both.
Method 1: There is several categories, such as Visual Impact, Technical value, Meets the Challenge, Composition, and so on, and next to each category there is a rating scale like we have now. When each box has a number in it then the site computes your final rating for the photo based on averaging the numbers, and displays it next to that category. Then you move on to the next photo.
Method 2: Exactly how we have it now, check your single rating for the photo and move on to the next photo.
A comment box will still be available to provide a full critque.
This would give the voters complete control over how little or how much time and thoroughness they want to spend on each photo.
T
Message edited by author 2003-01-13 18:13:49.
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01/13/2003 06:48:25 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by autool:
I have always been in favor of a way to designate a certain score for each of the important categories that a picture should be judged on. |
I remember you used to comment in this manner.
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01/13/2003 06:56:33 PM · #10 |
tims idea of two different voting methods rock ..
that should def be it,
i am fed up with not getting comments .. comments would be nice, but ifnot at least some idea of why i am not getting comments.
G
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01/13/2003 08:21:17 PM · #11 |
Maybe both the ratings scores would be anonymous and keep the written critique with the voters username, so that people wouldn't be afraid of hurting someone's pride by giving them a low score in the areas that they really feel need improvement.
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01/13/2003 09:25:33 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by digitallywet:
i am fed up with not getting comments .. comments would be nice, but ifnot at least some idea of why i am not getting comments. |
As a first time entrant I understand what you mean - only 2 comments from 90 votes, and they didn't discuss the quality of the image. I'm dying to know what people think (I suspect it's technically ok but just a little boring, but I'd love confirmation).
Personally I comment on 1 in 4 votes (ie: 500 votes, 125 comments) - it's not deliberately 1 in 4, that's just what my stats say. If this similar to other people? Perhaps the "helpful comments" button just implemented will offer some kind of reward / incentive? |
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01/14/2003 01:50:47 AM · #13 |
| I have one comment and 100 votes in landscape. I just went and left about 50 comments so that I would have a right to complain. I'm guessing that people are gonna be doing well just to get done voting this week, but it IS frustrating. |
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01/14/2003 02:21:15 AM · #14 |
I've zoomed up to eight comments already! I usually get about seven the whole week.
I often don't get to vote/comment until later in the week...I've averaged commenting on about 1 in 6 photos since I've been here... |
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01/14/2003 02:09:29 PM · #15 |
accordning to my stats i have voted 54 times and made 154 comments ... interesting ... i must remember to vote more
I am glad to see i already have some helpfull marks, as i do try
and sometime i feel myself being less helpfull so i stop as i know i am getting fed up .. have a break and go again some other time.
scary thing is .. i feel really bad .. my average mark is .. gulp .. 3.7 and man i don't mean to be low .. but i guess that is calculated from votes i have made and have been accepted which is only 54 .. aparently .. hang on .. should we put muych stock in these stas .. i mean .. it tells me 54 votes 154 comments .. how can that be ? and i give out plently of high scores hell sometime i find myself going back and redoing votes as i messed up and the last few photos needed 11's and 12's compared to the 10's i gave out
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01/14/2003 02:11:49 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by digitallywet:
hang on .. should we put muych stock in these stas .. i mean .. it tells me 54 votes 154 comments .. how can that be ? |
It's possible that those votes were caught by the vote monitoring system, which seems very possible if your average vote is 3.7.
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01/14/2003 02:17:38 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
I've zoomed up to eight comments already! I usually get about seven the whole week.
I often don't get to vote/comment until later in the week...I've averaged commenting on about 1 in 6 photos since I've been here... |
Well...everyone that posted in humor got a comment from me...WooHoo! Now onto landscapes.
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01/14/2003 03:08:46 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by timj351:
Here's an idea. It may be difficult to explain so please bear with me. It's much like what has already been suggested but with some options. In the ratings page for a photo we have two voting methods and you can choose one or the other, not both.
Method 1: There is several categories, such as Visual Impact, Technical value, Meets the Challenge, Composition, and so on, and next to each category there is a rating scale like we have now. When each box has a number in it then the site computes your final rating for the photo based on averaging the numbers, and displays it next to that category. Then you move on to the next photo.
Method 2: Exactly how we have it now, check your single rating for the photo and move on to the next photo.
A comment box will still be available to provide a full critque.
This would give the voters complete control over how little or how much time and thoroughness they want to spend on each photo.
T |
I'm all for this.
As you old timers know I used to leave comments with a score in each of several categories. I got kind of burned out on it though as I would leave a hundred or so comments and recieve five or maybe 10 coments on my picture. A few people would take the time to PM me and tell me how much they appreciated my comments (which was really great), but the BIG majority seems to just take them with a grain of salt. I have been commenting only on those that just reach out and pull me in, rather it be very good or much in need of help.
No matter what, we all need to keep having fun and taking pictures we like!!!!
Autool |
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01/14/2003 03:46:31 PM · #19 |
We have discussed this a few times and I am all for the idea.
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01/14/2003 07:34:06 PM · #20 |
| Ive got to say that I am trying to comment on more pictures and trying to be as constructive as possible. But with this many entries I cant possibly comment on all , I do vote on all however. A simpler check box method would be better allowing also for specific input. |
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