Far, far from a "Dead End"... - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

11/07/2005 12:53:37 AM · #5

i like a lot as well, hehemm, especially mine. But nice to see such a breadth of interpretations that make sense and are shot creatively.

Jutilda

Canon EOS-7D

Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro for Canon

11/07/2005 12:54:51 AM · #6

Originally posted by bear_music:

I'm with ya, Robert. What a fun bunch to peruse. I can't wait to look at them again tomorrow!

shabbychic

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

11/07/2005 12:55:22 AM · #7

I agree with ELSAPO- happy thoughts are becoming a fleeting memory on this sight. It's starting to get me really turned out from great, moody art because I'm being overwhelmed with it here, which means that this challenge- filled plenty with dark and depressing photos- is making me kind of sick.

Message edited by author 2005-11-07 00:56:01.

Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

11/07/2005 12:59:33 AM · #8

this is the best challenge in AGES. certainly partially due to excessive processing. perhaps a new time has come.

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

11/07/2005 01:00:58 AM · #9

Details: Creatively photograph a dead end. It can be a dead end street, hall, maze, or a metaphoric dead end -- you decide.

I believe it all turns perfectly on the last two words...

I'm really enjoying the wide open Challenge details as of late. Poetically open and doesn't leave much room for narrow, silly judgements.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

11/07/2005 01:02:39 AM · #10

Originally posted by shabbychic:

Yeah, but that's what they ASKED us to do, isn't it? I mean, how dark can a topic get, anyway? "Dead End"! I'd be amazed if there weren't a HUGE number of dark, harsh, even profoundly disturbing images. This is entirely to be expected. But look closer! See how many images, even in this dark pool, took a different tack, and an interesting one? There's quite a split here.

And the technical aspect of it is fun to look at regardless; there's a LOT of interesting lighting, processing, composition, you name it, in this challenge.

But what the heck... I'm delighted, anyway :-)

R.

Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

11/07/2005 01:02:49 AM · #11

i'm certainly not complaining, lookin like my best score in a long time

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

11/07/2005 01:03:20 AM · #12

Absolutely fascinating and telling...I am really diggin' this one. I have given out over 40 scores above 7. Whoa. :)

Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

11/07/2005 01:07:43 AM · #13

I for one am liberally handing out 10s this challenge. gave 24. I usually give about 5.

11/07/2005 01:09:08 AM · #14

Originally posted by JPR:

I for one am liberally handing out 10s this challenge. gave 24. I usually give about 5.

...still waiting for mine? HELLLOOOO !

Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

11/07/2005 01:10:11 AM · #15

Originally posted by pawdrix:

Originally posted by JPR:
I for one am liberally handing out 10s this challenge. gave 24. I usually give about 5.

...still waiting for mine? HELLLOOOO !

how do you know I didn't get to your already. i'm doing the best that i can...

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

11/07/2005 01:17:46 AM · #16

Ahhhh....there it goes ;)

coolhar

11/07/2005 01:46:50 AM · #17

I really hate to see this kind of thread so early in the voting period. It can't help but influence the voters.

Robert, sometimes I worry about you. Are you sure you aren't getting sucked into the darkness, being so impressed by what one poster called "excessive processing" that your judgement is overwhelmed by it?

Have you got an entry in Dead End? I do.

Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

11/07/2005 01:54:34 AM · #18

If I can influence the voters to vote higher I will! I called it excessive in comparison to the previous DPC standard. I am certainly impressed and overwhelmed with the talent here. I simply mean to say that if this sort of response to challenges is going to become the norm then the site has been changed to a whole other level, a higher or a lower on depending on how you see it.

coolhar

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

11/07/2005 02:10:55 AM · #19

Originally posted by JPR:

To me the term excessive means "too much". I think you are perhaps using it to mean "more than" in previous challenges. Am I misunderstanding you?

Why not just let the voters decide for themselves instead of trying to influence them to vote higher?

Heaping praise on a certain type of photograph that may appeal to you more than another type during the voting is not simply trying to influence the voters to vote higher. It has the effect of influencing them to vote higher on the type of photographes that impress you, and it comes at the expense of the types that you favor less. I find it especially annoying when it comes from people that I think ought to know better. I wish that the we could all trust the voters to get it right without having to point the way for them.

I haven't started viewing Dead End yet.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

11/07/2005 02:20:37 AM · #20

For what it's worth, I'm with coolhar on this - mainly because I am probably his case in point. I didn't enter and was not going to vote on it - at least not tonight - then I saw this thread, took a glance, thought the thumbs page did look like an impressive group and started voting. After about 35%, I started to realize my scoring was a bit higher than normal. I went back and had to adjust some down because I felt like I didn't know what I was thinking.

I'm not knocking bear or others for posting here - just pointing out the effect it seemed to have on me before coolhar even posted. Maybe it's just me.

madison461

Canon EOS-30D

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

11/07/2005 06:54:30 AM · #21

Originally posted by kpriest:

After about 35%, I started to realize my scoring was a bit higher than normal. I went back and had to adjust some down because I felt like I didn't know what I was thinking.

Why can't your bar be raised? You said it looked like an impressive group. It makes me feel like there is this unbreakable, silent rule amongst certain DPCers that there can't be any good work or fresh ideas, because it isn't THEIR work.

You said you didn't enter DEAD END. Yeah, what WERE you thinking?

CEJ

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

11/07/2005 07:09:08 AM · #22

Hmm...not sure how I felt about a lot of the images in this challenge. I don't think there are as many unique photos as stated above by someone. There are a few themes that were done repeatedly, only a very small handful of original/unique images and one or two of the repeated themes have been done lots of times in other challenges - just not to the extent done in this one. I am sort of disappointed actually.

Edit: after my usual rounds of the shots, this won't be my lowest scoring challenge, but I only gave one 10.

Message edited by author 2005-11-07 07:32:27.

Stagolee

Kodak Easyshare C180

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

11/07/2005 07:20:27 AM · #23

Originally posted by pawdrix:

This is why I think the challenge is so appealing. The "does not meet the challenge" Nazis can't come in to play here.

Now we are seeing more challenges with the photographer saying this is how I see the challenge opposed to the voter saying this is how I see the challenge therefor I will vote you down.

In the past far too much emphasis has been spent on the voters interpretation of the challenge description rather then how the photographer interprets the challenge.

I didn't enter this challenge but really the challenge title to me could mean all types of things......street dead ends as well as all those dark and morbid ideas.

I don't think that having this discussion whilst the challenge is being voted on will influence the voting in anyway, most people don't read the forums I'm led to believe.

notesinstones

Nikon D200

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

11/07/2005 07:26:48 AM · #24

I'm with Elsapo too, there were some good shots - but I wasnt impressed overall. Just because the subject is "shocking" or makes the viewer squirm - doesn't mean its a GOOD picture.

And I agree with Alienyst - the same themes are shown again and again and I find that frustrating to look at.