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04/11/2005 11:52:37 AM · #1
I was just flipping through April's issue of "Software Test & Performance" magazine and happen to catch the credit line on 2 photos - in the same article, no doubt. One by Eric Limon and the other by JMSetzler. Looks like both came from iStock. (John got the full page).
04/11/2005 12:08:43 PM · #2
The issue can be downloaded (PDF) at:

//www.stpmag.com/issues/stp-2005-04.pdf

John's photo is on page 27, Eric's on Page 28. The quility is poor, though, due to the high compression they used for the PDF conversion.
04/11/2005 12:11:29 PM · #3
Edit: Kirbic beat me to it.

it is at
//www.stpmag.com/issues/stp-2005-04.pdf

page 27 (John) and page28/29 (Eric)

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04/11/2005 12:12:22 PM · #4
I looked there is no photo on page 27
04/11/2005 12:13:37 PM · #5
It's the photo of the firemen... (firepeople? firepersons? What is the PC term these days)
04/11/2005 12:14:24 PM · #6
Originally posted by srdanz:

It's the photo of the firemen... (firepeople? firepersons? What is the PC term these days)


That is Eric's

04/11/2005 12:18:38 PM · #7
Both DPCers have firemen photos: John's is really on page 26, and Eric's appears to have been split for use on pages 28 and 29. Congratulations to both!

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04/11/2005 12:19:04 PM · #8
@#&^$!

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04/11/2005 12:19:58 PM · #9
Originally posted by srdanz:

It's the photo of the firemen... (firepeople? firepersons? What is the PC term these days)


Fire Fighters

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04/11/2005 12:24:14 PM · #10
Posted the wrong one, here's the published version,
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04/11/2005 12:25:19 PM · #11
Congrats to you both.
04/11/2005 12:25:26 PM · #12
congrats to both of you.
04/11/2005 01:23:16 PM · #13
i would say that it's a milestone for both of you, but i have a feeling that maybe this isn't the first time for you two :) congrats, either way (whether you like it or not!)

i'm curious, is this the first you've heard of it? i'm wondering how many photos receive big spreads like this and the photographer never knows (and maybe sometimes doesn't want to know!)


04/11/2005 01:49:51 PM · #14
In Aprils issue of Pratical Photography Film&Digital an image cought my eye on page 43("The World Through Your Eyes")

It is the product of none other than Neil Hanson's spictacular eye and can be viewed as it sits on this site in 2nd place in the Best of 2004 challenge.

this image here-

it also looks like he won a D70 from it.....

he was 2nd place of three who where gifted "courtesy of top electrincal retailer Dixons" a brand new D70.

anyway thought he deserved and another bit of recognition and this thread appeared to be the spot for it....

_brando_

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04/11/2005 03:03:58 PM · #15
Originally posted by fotodude:

In Aprils issue of Pratical Photography Film&Digital an image cought my eye on page 43("The World Through Your Eyes")


Looks like you missed this thread.
Is there anybody here who doesn't get Practical Photography?!
04/11/2005 05:57:41 PM · #16
I find it odd that they published photo credits on those. I don't think that is a requirement on royalty free stock...
04/11/2005 07:39:00 PM · #17
Would someone please point me to a thread where rights managed vs. royalty free is discussed? I'm trying to understand why so many talented DPC shooters would sell RF. Not looking to be flamed.
04/11/2005 07:48:15 PM · #18
Originally posted by lynnesite:

Would someone please point me to a thread where rights managed vs. royalty free is discussed? I'm trying to understand why so many talented DPC shooters would sell RF. Not looking to be flamed.


Probably best not to post to any of the threads then ;)
04/11/2005 07:55:53 PM · #19
Originally posted by lynnesite:

Would someone please point me to a thread where rights managed vs. royalty free is discussed? I'm trying to understand why so many talented DPC shooters would sell RF. Not looking to be flamed.


Do a seach for stock photography. There's about 400 discussions on the topic.
04/11/2005 07:58:28 PM · #20
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

I find it odd that they published photo credits on those. I don't think that is a requirement on royalty free stock...


Still very cool to get credit though.
04/11/2005 08:33:48 PM · #21
Originally posted by dogz:

I was just flipping through April's issue of "Software Test & Performance" magazine and happen to catch the credit line on 2 photos - in the same article, no doubt. One by Eric Limon and the other by JMSetzler. Looks like both came from iStock. (John got the full page).


Congrats to Eric and Setz.

It is no surprise to find DPCers published. There is a lot of talent at this site. I'm sure there are many, many others that have been published that we are just not aware of.
04/11/2005 09:18:10 PM · #22
Originally posted by lynnesite:

Would someone please point me to a thread where rights managed vs. royalty free is discussed? I'm trying to understand why so many talented DPC shooters would sell RF. Not looking to be flamed.


Lynne, here's a great discussion about it:
//www.pdngallery.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=001074

When I first started reading about the "war" of RF vs RM most pros seem to bash RF. Then I realized that some of the good RF shooters earn a half mil or more annually. So much for that. Now the big heated discussion seems to be the traditional stock avenues vs. the new "penny" stock sites, (a.k.a. shutterstock and istock). Hey, to each his own. Both of the pics mentioned in this thread were from istock and those photographers seem to be doing ok.

- John
04/11/2005 09:26:39 PM · #23
Originally posted by dogz:

Originally posted by lynnesite:

Would someone please point me to a thread where rights managed vs. royalty free is discussed? I'm trying to understand why so many talented DPC shooters would sell RF. Not looking to be flamed.


Lynne, here's a great discussion about it:
//www.pdngallery.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=001074

When I first started reading about the "war" of RF vs RM most pros seem to bash RF. Then I realized that some of the good RF shooters earn a half mil or more annually. So much for that. Now the big heated discussion seems to be the traditional stock avenues vs. the new "penny" stock sites, (a.k.a. shutterstock and istock). Hey, to each his own. Both of the pics mentioned in this thread were from istock and those photographers seem to be doing ok.

- John


The crux of the matter would be that, for example, the images mentioned in this post would have sold for about $350, going on standard, single use rates for a full page in a low circulation trade magazine. (No idea on the circulation of Software Test & Performance, so I assumed about 10k copies)

With the royalty free, istock model, the profit to the photographer is quite a bit lower. Probably less effort on their part too and more frequent sales, but it takes a while to make up the difference.

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04/11/2005 09:35:42 PM · #24
Originally posted by Gordon:

The crux of the matter would be that, for example, the images mentioned in this post would have sold for about $350, going on standard, single use rates for a full page in a low circulation trade magazine. (No idea on the circulation of Software Test & Performance, so I assumed about 10k copies)


Just out of curiosity, what was the article in question about? And is it possible that the magazines are using the images *because* they could be gotten so cheaply?
04/11/2005 10:22:20 PM · #25
Originally posted by ahaze:

And is it possible that the magazines are using the images *because* they could be gotten so cheaply?


That's the issue right enough. Of course they are buying them because people will sell them for $1 instead of the $300 or $400 that they are perhaps worth. The question is as a photographer, why would you sell them at that rate, when there are plenty of places still willing to pay the higher prices for reasonable quality images.

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