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01/12/2005 07:40:29 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Yeah, this looks next to impossible. If anyone has any time or inclination, can they have a quick peek at my portfolio and see if any of my photos have a unique style I can draw on for this challenge? I think it's really difficult to be really objective about your own material, and everything is derivative of something else! |
I have always though fo you as someone whom like bright strong mixtured colors. A style for sure.
A unique style no, but then i don't think anyone really has a unique style here, especialy not one that isn't acheived without photoshop.
So thinking it's going to be hard!
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01/12/2005 07:49:46 AM · #27 |
| Yep, it's going to be really easy to vote down on this one, as I think people are going to struggle to do something which hasn't been done before somewhere. Having a style is different I think, as you can have a strong sense of style without necessarily doing anything that hasn't been done before. It's all in how you combine existing techniques into a subtly different mixture. |
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01/12/2005 07:52:01 AM · #28 |
Perhaps you could see it as breaking new ground for yourself. Try something different. Research a technique you haven't used before. See how it goes.
Or revisit a technique you've tried before and see if you can apply it somewhere that might not be the most obvious.
Panning in macro shots.
Wide angle sports.
Infrared portraits.
slow flash sync still life.
Who knows, you might break some new ground personally. I've found before that thinking of a technique and finding the least likely place to apply it, then trying it out, can lead to some more interesting things than you might at first expect. Who cares if its been used before - you've never taken that picture before - so it is new ground.
Set your camera on a 2 second exposure and run down the street (if you don't trip)
Shoot portraits from the view of a worm, or a bird.
Use a timer and throw your camera in the air (if you are a good catch)
User your tripod like an extension to your arm.
Play.
Message edited by author 2005-01-12 07:57:06. |
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01/12/2005 07:54:21 AM · #29 |
| Ah, breaking new ground personally is a whole different concept to creating a style I consider to be innovative. How I read the challenge is to come up with something that nobody else has done before. |
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01/12/2005 07:55:40 AM · #30 |
| Anyway, I'll certainly give it a go this week, and have a think about how I might try something really new. I have a feeling I may sit this one out though. |
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01/12/2005 07:58:39 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Ah, breaking new ground personally is a whole different concept to creating a style I consider to be innovative. How I read the challenge is to come up with something that nobody else has done before. |
You aren't going to create a style in a week or in one photo anyway, so I wouldn't sweat it :) Nor are you going to do something truely innovative in a week, on demand either. So why not try the smaller goal of doing something innovative for yourself and seeing what happens ? Just a suggestion.
It can be tough to do though - you have to accept that a lot of the images will be junk and just play through that and see what comes out the other end. I can think of only one certain way not to break new ground or grow though.
Message edited by author 2005-01-12 08:10:43. |
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01/12/2005 09:09:56 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Originally posted by nico_blue:
This is a really intereseting challenge, I just wish it was with advanced editing rules... There is only so much that can be done with a non-dslr in terms of innovative techniques, but should be fun nevertheless. |
You forget, the non-DSLRs are the ones with all the built-in effects. Some of them can do multiple exposures in camera and all sorts of image effects. Seems to me the non-DSLR cameras might have a little bit of an advantage. |
I'd say they would get a lot of advantage, not a little.
I can do a lot of fun stuff that can be reproduced with a film camera and a darkroom, but almost all of it requires post processing. Not a whole lot, but still. I am not going to submit something with artifacts that i cannot edit out, and that would look sloppy, when there is not much i can do about them. Like it was in the macro challenge and my soap bubbles and the tiny imperfections in plastic that looked awful, but i couldn't possibly get rid of them, so i ended up not submitting anything :(
Sometimes i wonder who comes up with ideas of what should be basic editing and what should be advanced. Advanced for architecture, but basic for special techniques? Come on. |
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01/12/2005 09:11:56 AM · #33 |
Now THAT is a cool shot.
Originally posted by Gordon:
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01/12/2005 09:17:13 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Play. |
Amen, brother...too many folks don't know how to do this anymore! ;o)
Excellent pic, btw. |
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01/12/2005 09:37:42 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Sometimes i wonder who comes up with ideas of what should be basic editing and what should be advanced. Advanced for architecture, but basic for special techniques? Come on. |
That's why it's called DPChallenge and not DPEasy-as-Pie.
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01/12/2005 10:13:15 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Sometimes i wonder who comes up with ideas of what should be basic editing and what should be advanced. Advanced for architecture, but basic for special techniques? Come on. |
That's why it's called DPChallenge and not DPEasy-as-Pie. |
I'm not buying this argument, sorry.
I've always advocated as many basic editing challenges as possible, but this is not a good example where basic editing is appropriate, because some advanced features are needed. AS opposed to, say, architecture. |
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01/12/2005 10:20:36 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Sometimes i wonder who comes up with ideas of what should be basic editing and what should be advanced. Advanced for architecture, but basic for special techniques? Come on. |
That's why it's called DPChallenge and not DPEasy-as-Pie. |
I'm not buying this argument, sorry.
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You don't have to buy anything, you have your opinion and I have mine.
I'd rather see what people can come up with using their cameras, not PS. If that's what you want, there are numerous Photoshop challenge type sites where that is the flavor of the day.
You can either bitch about the lemons, or get on with making lemonade.
Message edited by author 2005-01-12 10:24:23.
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01/12/2005 10:23:52 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Sometimes i wonder who comes up with ideas of what should be basic editing and what should be advanced. Advanced for architecture, but basic for special techniques? Come on. |
That's why it's called DPChallenge and not DPEasy-as-Pie. |
I'm not buying this argument, sorry.
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No one's asking you to buy anything. Whine away. |
free wine? ;)
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01/12/2005 10:25:23 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by colda:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Sometimes i wonder who comes up with ideas of what should be basic editing and what should be advanced. Advanced for architecture, but basic for special techniques? Come on. |
That's why it's called DPChallenge and not DPEasy-as-Pie. |
I'm not buying this argument, sorry.
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No one's asking you to buy anything. Whine away. |
free wine? ;) |
Whatever it takes to get ya goin...
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01/12/2005 10:33:55 AM · #40 |
I would suggest that the most effective shot (that is, the winner) will be either of something or taken in a manner that hasn't been seen here before. It will very probably not be a unique approach to photography. I think of Kertesz's Distortions, and some of Doc Edgerton's strobe work (like the golfer), that haven't been seen here before, but wouldn't be original.
Ed |
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01/12/2005 10:34:46 AM · #41 |
Yeah, the supportive atmosphere at DPC wins again. Grrrr... people who accuse perfectly reasonable people of 'whining'... grrrr, lemme at 'em!
There's DPChallenge, and there's DPnigh-on-impossible.
Yes, it's a great opportunity to try something personally new for everybody, but I think that we'll be lucky to get one or two photos in the entire challenge that REALLY fit the description. |
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01/12/2005 11:09:37 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
There's DPChallenge, and there's DPnigh-on-impossible.
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If you view a challenge as "impossible' in your mind, then, for you, it will be impossible. Why not try to think of what IS possible?
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01/12/2005 11:21:12 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Sometimes i wonder who comes up with ideas of what should be basic editing and what should be advanced. Advanced for architecture, but basic for special techniques? Come on. |
That's why it's called DPChallenge and not DPEasy-as-Pie. |
I'm not buying this argument, sorry.
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You don't have to buy anything, you have your opinion and I have mine.
I'd rather see what people can come up with using their cameras, not PS. If that's what you want, there are numerous Photoshop challenge type sites where that is the flavor of the day.
You can either bitch about the lemons, or get on with making lemonade. |
Blah, whatever. Ignoring this thread and certain individuals who don't seem to read or comprehend very well. |
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01/12/2005 11:55:59 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
There's DPChallenge, and there's DPnigh-on-impossible.
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If you view a challenge as "impossible' in your mind, then, for you, it will be impossible. Why not try to think of what IS possible? |
Sheesh. I already said 'it's a great opportunity to try something personally new for everybody'. Nothing wrong with being realistic. Trying to think something IS possible doesn't always make it so. |
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01/12/2005 12:18:29 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Sheesh. I already said 'it's a great opportunity to try something personally new for everybody'. Nothing wrong with being realistic. Trying to think something IS possible doesn't always make it so. |
I think that there is a school of thought that if you think something is dificult then it becomes dificult.
Believe that you can do it, and you stand more chance of doing so.
perhaps this could cross thread to your platitudes thread.
....walk the talk ;) ....
Message edited by author 2005-01-12 12:18:56. |
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01/12/2005 12:21:25 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by Artan:
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Sheesh. I already said 'it's a great opportunity to try something personally new for everybody'. Nothing wrong with being realistic. Trying to think something IS possible doesn't always make it so. |
I think that there is a school of thought that if you think something is dificult then it becomes dificult.
Believe that you can do it, and you stand more chance of doing so.
perhaps this could cross thread to your platitudes thread.
....walk the talk ;) .... |
Erm... where do you think the inspiration for my platitudes challenge came from today? ;-) |
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01/12/2005 12:23:38 PM · #47 |
| that's me always slow off the mark... |
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01/12/2005 01:06:36 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
There's DPChallenge, and there's DPnigh-on-impossible.
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If you view a challenge as "impossible' in your mind, then, for you, it will be impossible. Why not try to think of what IS possible? |
Sheesh. I already said 'it's a great opportunity to try something personally new for everybody'. Nothing wrong with being realistic. Trying to think something IS possible doesn't always make it so. |
I did not suggest that merely think something possible would make it so, but to think of those things which ARE possible, but perhaps overlooked.
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01/12/2005 01:18:48 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by nico_blue:
But dont forget that a very important part of photography is developing your photo in the darkroom, and in the case of digital photography this is on the computer. |
The basic editing rule helps level the playing field and with this chalenge make people realy think. I mean otherwise every other picture would something somebody tweeked in Artistic Filters for five minutes. |
You know I always find it funny when someone says that basic editing levels the playing field. Owning photoshop and being able to use it far outweighs the difference between cameras, levels of expertise, and creativity? There is no level playing field, period.
I'm not saying it should be advanced and I'm not saying it should be basic. Take it for what it is and either way maybe some people will learn something. |
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01/12/2005 01:20:09 PM · #50 |
i think this is a great challenge. before i read the description i was ready to get my shovel and shove it in some dirt to take a picture. after reading the description i realize how much harder this is going to be, or perhaps easier... people really shouldn't complain about the topic of the challenge or the rules that apply to them. you dont HAVE to pay to be a part of these open challenges and even if you are a subscriber the fee is minimal. i think this is a great opportunity to see some of the greats define themselves differently and teach some of the lesser greats (i.e., me, ) on how they got the shot..
modesty and arrogance in one sentence
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