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06/24/2002 02:27:28 PM · #26 |
i think the owner of this photograph should be asked to step forward and comment... if he is the owner of the photo, there would be no need for any spot editing if the rules had been followed...
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06/24/2002 02:28:39 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
i think the owner of this photograph should be asked to step forward and comment... if he is the owner of the photo, there would be no need for any spot editing if the rules had been followed...
Ownership issues aside, is this being considered for DQ for spot-editing?
-Terry
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06/24/2002 02:30:17 PM · #28 |
As far as I know, it hasn't been discussed. DQ is in order. Rules are rules... since someone has already asked drew and langdon about it, i will wait to see what they say. I can't believe that someone didn't come up with this before the challenge. There were NO dq requests on this photo until after the challenge was over...
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06/24/2002 02:32:29 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by clubjuggle:
Originally posted by arnit:
[i]Here is the original shot with the date:
Click Me
Definitely a spot-edit then. I'd suggest at this point we wait for an "official" answer from the moderation team rather than beat a dead horse. This is a new situation, so I'd expect we might not have an answer right away.
-Terry
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Arnit / Terry -
The "original" with the date is clearly not the "original", either. If you look at the edited one side by side with the one with the date, you'll see that the date is nearly twice the size of the spot-edited area. There's no way the date was the cause of the edit.
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06/24/2002 02:33:08 PM · #30 |
I am more than willing to pull my picture out of the challenge.
I did not thing I was breaking any rules by removing the date from the bottom right corner.
So if you find this to be reasone for disqualifing this picture i'll respect that and know better in the future. |
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06/24/2002 02:34:57 PM · #31 |
As a newbie here I have a question regarding the picture. Would it have been acceptable to crop the photo up to the point where the date was shown and submit the cropped pic? It would have lost a bit of the shadow but would not have run into this current issue.
* This message has been edited by the author on 6/24/2002 2:34:28 PM. |
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06/24/2002 02:36:17 PM · #32 |
welcome to the site! cropping is allowed as long as your cropped picture confirms to the allowable sizes (640x427 or 640x480 or vertical equivalent).
Originally posted by tjuneau13:
As a newbie here I have a question regarding the picture. Would it have been acceptable to crop the photo up to the point where the date was shown and submit the cropped pic? It would have lost a bit of the shadow but would not have run into this current issue.
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06/24/2002 02:37:11 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by tjuneau13:
As a newbie here I have a question regarding the picture. Would it have been acceptable to crop the photo up to the point where the date was shown and submit the cropped pic? It would have lost a bit of the shadow but would not have run into this current issue.
Yes, cropping and resizing is acceptable so long as the submitted image is 640x480 or 640x427, either portrait or landscape.
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06/24/2002 02:38:03 PM · #34 |
This is quite embarrassing for all of you. The photo is a fine shot, regardless
of whether the date was "erased" or not. You act like he received money instead of
a small ribbon gif on his profile page. Lighten up and move on. |
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06/24/2002 02:38:32 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
As far as I know, it hasn't been discussed. DQ is in order. Rules are rules... since someone has already asked drew and langdon about it, i will wait to see what they say. I can't believe that someone didn't come up with this before the challenge. There were NO dq requests on this photo until after the challenge was over...
John...to tell you and everyone the truth..I only noticed it this morning. I actually didn't have a chance to vote on every one of the photos. I got busy working last night and by the time I looked up it was 12 am...past it, even. So I went to bed and this morning...I woke up and checked DPC. When I pulled the winning photo up on my monitor at home...it was so obvious that there was something there in the corner. I guess it was just my monitor at home because when I got to work, it wasn't as bad. You could barely see it. I checked the comments to see if anyone had mentioned it and I saw that Amphian had....but no one else. So I'm the one who mentioned it to Terry...I don't want to seem like I was trying to stir things up..but I feel that rules are rules as well. I thank Terry for having the guts enough to post the question....I just wanted to know for sure. |
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06/24/2002 02:40:05 PM · #36 |
this is a bit of a mess.
yes, it's a spot edit and no, those are not allowed.
however, it's not really a content edit..
and it didnt receive dq requests during the voting.
so, here it is - it won the contest.
I kind of think it's too late to DQ it now - and pointless also, considering it's not really a content edit.
on the plus side, no prize is lost if it gets DQ'd.
These are just some thoughts.
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06/24/2002 02:43:01 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
As far as I know, it hasn''t been discussed. DQ is in order. Rules are rules... since someone has already asked drew and langdon about it, i will wait to see what they say. I can''t believe that someone didn''t come up with this before the challenge. There were NO dq requests on this photo until after the challenge was over...
* This message has been edited by the author on 6/24/2002 2:45:04 PM. |
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06/24/2002 02:43:53 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by mpmcgeehan:
This is quite embarrassing for all of you. The photo is a fine shot, regardless
of whether the date was "erased" or not. You act like he received money instead of
a small ribbon gif on his profile page. Lighten up and move on.
I don't question the fact that it's a wonderfully executed shot mp. The only thing I do question is whether it would have made it to number one with the date, or if perhaps number 2 or 3 could have made it further. We know there is no spot editing....there is a box to check now before you even submit to say that you've read the rules. Can we disregard the rules now? And how are we to know what the original date was since it seems that the "original" has been edited as well with a date?
All I am concerned about is that there are people here who work hard and take beautiful photos. I think you are disrespecting them and the hard work they do if you think nothing should said. |
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06/24/2002 02:44:59 PM · #39 |
How about we just vote on it?
The administrators would set up a survey and we would vote. |
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06/24/2002 02:46:40 PM · #40 |
let''s not. i agree that it wasn''t smart to spot-edit the date, but regardless, it is a beautiful shot. i think the moderators/administrators should make a final decision either way and then we all move on.
Originally posted by arnit:
How about we just vote on it?
The administrators would set up a survey and we would vote.
* This message has been edited by the author on 6/24/2002 2:47:31 PM.
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06/24/2002 02:48:14 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by mpmcgeehan:
This is quite embarrassing for all of you. The photo is a fine shot, regardless
of whether the date was "erased" or not. You act like he received money instead of
a small ribbon gif on his profile page. Lighten up and move on.
The only reason I care about this is because he's obviously covering something up, so in my mind the possibility remains that he didn't even take the picture. I don't care if he edited out a dust speckle or something, but I do care if he's submitting a photograph that isn't his. Who knows if he's editing out somebody's copyright notice.
- Mike |
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06/24/2002 02:48:35 PM · #42 |
I'm not disrespecting anyone, KD, so don't disrespect me for stating my opinion. I still feel
that a bunch of ridiculous nit-picking is going on here. If you have a question about a photo's
authenticity then point it out during the challenge. To do so after the photo has taken first place
is extremely tacky and will bring this site down to a new low.
Originally posted by KDJohnson:
I don't question the fact that it's a wonderfully executed shot mp. The only thing I do question is whether it would have made it to number one with the date, or if perhaps number 2 or 3 could have made it further. We know there is no spot editing....there is a box to check now before you even submit to say that you've read the rules. Can we disregard the rules now? And how are we to know what the original date was since it seems that the "original" has been edited as well with a date?
All I am concerned about is that there are people here who work hard and take beautiful photos. I think you are disrespecting them and the hard work they do if you think nothing should said. [/i]
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06/24/2002 02:49:43 PM · #43 |
except he has plenty of other shots of the same subject in the same lighting w/out copyright notices on his website. it's likely that it is his shot.
Originally posted by mci:
I don't care if he edited out a dust speckle or something, but I do care if he's submitting a photograph that isn't his. Who knows if he's editing out somebody's copyright notice.
- Mike
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06/24/2002 02:52:59 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by gr8photos:
except he has plenty of other shots of the same subject in the same lighting w/out copyright notices on his website. it''s likely that it is his shot.
Sho''nuff, but these ones don''t have dates on them either, so why does the one he submitted?
- Mike
* This message has been edited by the author on 6/24/2002 2:56:42 PM. |
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06/24/2002 02:53:27 PM · #45 |
I have suggested that this shot stay as winner of this challenge. Other moderators will hopefully join in on that discussion.
I believe that the DQ requests should have come before the end of the challenge rather than afterwards.
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06/24/2002 02:56:30 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by mpmcgeehan:
I'm not disrespecting anyone, KD, so don't disrespect me for stating my opinion. I still feel
that a bunch of ridiculous nit-picking is going on here. If you have a question about a photo's
authenticity then point it out during the challenge. To do so after the photo has taken first place
is extremely tacky and will bring this site down to a new low.
Originally posted by KDJohnson:
I don't question the fact that it's a wonderfully executed shot mp. The only thing I do question is whether it would have made it to number one with the date, or if perhaps number 2 or 3 could have made it further. We know there is no spot editing....there is a box to check now before you even submit to say that you've read the rules. Can we disregard the rules now? And how are we to know what the original date was since it seems that the "original" has been edited as well with a date?
All I am concerned about is that there are people here who work hard and take beautiful photos. I think you are disrespecting them and the hard work they do if you think nothing should said.
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when I said "you"...I was stating a collective "you" as in us, ....sigh...anyway.....just forget it. I think I explained why I didn't see it until this morning....but the point is moot now. I'm sorry if you think I disrespected you in any way. |
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06/24/2002 02:59:27 PM · #47 |
I have a question real quick. I've seen cameras put dates on images, but never in this fashion with a black border around it. Can someone with an A40 attest to the fact that the CAMERA put the date on the shot?
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06/24/2002 03:01:07 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by mci:
I don't care if he edited out a dust speckle or something, but I do care if he's submitting a photograph that isn't his. Who knows if he's editing out somebody's copyright notice.
Right :D
This is getting interestin.
Im curently posting all the pictures that I shoot that night on my webpage for your viewing plesure.
I thing that we can all agree that thess photos are taken at the same time.
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06/24/2002 03:02:00 PM · #49 |
My concern is that whatever is done at this point will send a message.
If the photo is disqualified, it sends a clear and unequivocal message that cheating is not acceptable here, and that there's no point to even trying. If, on the other hand, this photo is allowed to stand, the message is that cheating is worth a shot, because if you're pretty good with Photoshop you can keep people fooled for a week, and it doesn't matter if people notice once you've won and the spotlight is on you.
As far as being a content-edit, I'm not sure that's the case. MCI's point about the relative sized of the edits is a valid one. I wonder if the "original" we were shown is not an original, and the date was added after the fact. This suggests that there is a "real" original out there somewhere, with a date stamp outside the challenge dates.
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06/24/2002 03:02:34 PM · #50 |
I did voice my opinion, as posted above : )
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I have suggested that this shot stay as winner of this challenge. Other moderators will hopefully join in on that discussion.
I believe that the DQ requests should have come before the end of the challenge rather than afterwards.
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