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Land Of The Setting Sun
12/15/2008 06:29:59 AM
Land Of The Setting Sun
by J-Me

Comment by alfresco:
It is an unfortunate shame this technique is considered verboten, a very stifling interpretation of the rules.

There appears to be monitor-schmootz at the top of the image.
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Land Of The Setting Sun
12/15/2008 12:48:12 AM
Land Of The Setting Sun
by J-Me

Comment by Yo_Spiff:
What's all this about a trip to Dairy Queen? At least you are in good company with Lydia's entry being DQ'd for the exact same thing! Probably would have scored respectably except for those darn editing rules.
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Flying
12/11/2008 02:59:41 PM
Flying
by J-Me

Comment by J-Me:
Originally posted by digifotojo:

I know you're allowed to darken a background by using the burn tool, which I have done on several occasions. It removes subtle lights/colors in the background almost entirely and evidently that's ok. What you did was to create light areas in the background that didn't exist in the original. It was a good idea but evidently not acceptable. Next time, use a sky/cloud backdrop, I've seen these things in the craft stores.

I like what you did though, it's very original. Keep up the good work!


I see your point Jo and thank you for the compliment! :)

Actually, though.... the ORIGINAL background was "light". It was a lighter blue with light and dark areas to it due to lighting. What I did was to darken the background by using levels, color balance, H&S, brightness and contrast to the OVERALL shot both in RAW conversion and then again in Photoshop.

The DODGE tool was used to bring back out the ORIGINAL background lightness and color. I did not use the burn tool to darken the background, which could have worked too. Perhaps, had I done it that way, it would have been legal but, I doubt it.

Anyways, it's a moot point now. No need in going over it all again since it was DQ'd and that is that.

Message edited by author 2008-12-11 15:01:38.
Flying
12/11/2008 12:36:29 PM
Flying
by J-Me

Comment by digifotojo:
I know you're allowed to darken a background by using the burn tool, which I have done on several occasions. It removes subtle lights/colors in the background almost entirely and evidently that's ok. What you did was to create light areas in the background that didn't exist in the original. It was a good idea but evidently not acceptable. Next time, use a sky/cloud backdrop, I've seen these things in the craft stores.

I like what you did though, it's very original. Keep up the good work!
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Flying
12/09/2008 10:02:38 PM
Flying
by J-Me

Comment by Lydia:
I'm so very sorry... *sigh*
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Flying
12/09/2008 09:44:23 PM
Flying
by J-Me

Comment by Art Roflmao:
This DQ is a complete mystery to me. How about posting the original in your notes?
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Land Of The Setting Sun
12/08/2008 11:58:38 PM
Land Of The Setting Sun
by J-Me

Comment by LadyK:
love the positioning of the woody
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Land Of The Setting Sun
12/08/2008 06:31:06 PM
Land Of The Setting Sun
by J-Me

Comment by rlewis:
Nice use of light in shadowing woody
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Flying
12/08/2008 10:56:52 AM
Flying
by J-Me

Comment by J-Me:
Originally posted by citymars:

Hi, Jamie. You wrote "this was shot on a blue background. Levels and color balance, hue & sat had adjustments made on them to darken it down to a dark blue/black (depending on your monitor). I then, used the dodge tool to lighten up the area around the model."

If that is true, then this shouldn't have been disqualified!


I totally agree with you...but, SC doesn't agree....even after asking for explanation and appealing the decision. He was on a blue (royal blue) piece of cloth, laying on the floor. I shot this from above him, on a ladder, looking down and had him pose in different poses until I got the look of "flying". I then, darkended down the background and entire shot, using levels, H&S, color balance. Once I got the final look, I used the dodge tool to highlight by dodging around the figure and using some burning in that area as well. I guess they consider it that I "created a shape/cloud" by doing so??? I still don't understand fully, even with that explanation.

Here is the response when asked for clarification:

"The original shows a man lying on a plain backdrop, and it was a unanimous consensus that the editing you did distorted the background context/radically altered the background object and thus could not be validated.
Think about it like this: a typical viewer seeing the original would see a plain blue backdrop."

The background blue was not "plain" in the sense that there were highlighted areas due to the lighting that I had set up. The area around the model's head and hands were lighter and the outside edges darker. I brought those areas back out again???? I think this fell into a gray area and SC decided to put it into Black and White territory. Not going to argue with the point.

Ok, I see a point there in terms of the fact that I legally darkened down the blue background and highlighted it by dodging and burning....but, what about vignettes then? Doesn't that drastically alter the background? What about the tremendous number of skies in which editing brings out barely visible clouds (ie: major filtering and dodge and burn)? Ah well, lesson learned here. Unless you know exactly what you're doing with editing...BEWARE!

ETA: It seems that had I made a separate layer for the model/subject and vignetted the background in a free form style, exactly the shape that the highlighted area is in this final shot....this likely wouldn't have been considered "illegal". I guess that I could have achieved the same look but, by doing it in a different manner/technique, it wouldn't have been DQ'd. :)

Message edited by author 2008-12-08 11:18:08.
Flying
12/08/2008 09:20:56 AM
Flying
by J-Me

Comment by citymars:
Hi, Jamie. You wrote "this was shot on a blue background. Levels and color balance, hue & sat had adjustments made on them to darken it down to a dark blue/black (depending on your monitor). I then, used the dodge tool to lighten up the area around the model."

If that is true, then this shouldn't have been disqualified!
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