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Challenge: Rolling Stones Songs (Basic Editing)
Camera: Canon PowerShot S2 IS
Location: my bathroom
Date: Jul 31, 2007
Aperture: 2.7
ISO: 100
Shutter: 1/125
Galleries: Animals, Macro
Date Uploaded: Jul 31, 2007

Ok, I must admit it, I confess...I am a fly killer.

This spider was hanging out in my bathroom and looking scrawnier and scrawnier everyday, and then I was taking out the trash and I saw a fly hopping around on the ground. I looked closer and saw that it's wings were curled in a weird way and found that it really couldn't fly. So, remembering one of the titles, "The Spider and the Fly" I easily snatched it up, grabbed my camera and threw it into the web. I know, it's kinda cruel, especially sence I live right by San Francisco and all the tree-hugging hippies. On the other hand you could say that I helped the spider by feeding it and gave meaning to the fly's life, albeit morbid. Although I really have no right to decide what lives or dies...oh well, I'm thinking way too much into this. To summerize: My bad.

I'm worried that it might be difficult to see that it actually is a fly, but I chose this shot (out of many) because it shows the red of the fly's eye and it's leg. I had a much cooler (compositionally speaking) shot, but it just looked like the spider was holding a black blob. sigh.
I hope this does well, even though I really didn't know much about the Rolling Stones before this challenge anyway :P

Probably should have entered this one
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Statistics
Place: 168 out of 211
Avg (all users): 4.9643
Avg (commenters): 6.0000
Avg (participants): 4.8197
Avg (non-participants): 5.0759
Views since voting: 918
Views during voting: 209
Votes: 140
Comments: 12
Favorites: 0


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08/11/2007 07:23:10 PM
In my experience the s3 is focuses better (on auto) when using the super-macro. For this shot I would have used the manual focus and at least 200 iso (or try to obtain more natural light) and also maybe tried to get closer to the subject.
On the spider shots i try to get the spider and the web in focus, this usually means a shallow angle on the web plane... i'll try to find an example for this.
Also it seems to me this image is either a heavy crop or the photo quality was set on low when the picture was taken. Maybe an USM followed by noise removal would have rendered a better look to the picture.

You have some great shots, but this one is not. Didn't voted, but I wouldn't have given more than 5.

Please note that I consider i don't have the necessary skills to post images to this site yet, so take my advices with a grain of salt :)
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08/11/2007 06:35:06 PM
I didn't vote in this challenge nor have I read the comments on this shot. I find this shot uninteresting because its so centred in the frame. Its quite hard to separate visually the fly from the spider. The composition is very plain. Just from seeing the thumbnail of the outtake it appears the better shot of the two. Also I don't know the Stones track. Maybe if you had chosen a better know Stones song to shot, your votes would have gone up ??Hope this helps sorry. Graham
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08/11/2007 06:10:39 PM
Since you asked for comments:

For a macro shot - it isn't particularly sharp - we are all spoiled by tack sharp macro images of bugs and spiders, so this is lacking.

It also isn't particularly close up - maybe 90% of the frame is background and the subject gets lost. What is there is bang in the center of the frame, which isn't usually the most dynamic composition.

The background & light or lighting isn't particularly interesting or appealing either.

Hopefully some of that helps explain the score.

Message edited by author 2007-08-11 18:12:27.
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08/08/2007 09:44:23 AM
The background has some distracting noise to it, and the centered composition and not-so-sharp focus serves to keep the image from having a real impact for me. I had not voted this challenge, but I likely would have given this a 5, which for me means "average" - below average starts in the 4s for me.
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08/08/2007 01:51:48 AM
Leah, since you asked for comments in your thread, I agree with the other folks who've commented since the challenge ended. I have the same camera, and I've also tried to use the super macro, but it's tough to get a really sharp image. Keep in mind that really good macro shots are razor sharp for the point of interest. Compare your shot to this, and I think you'll see how the lack of sharpness and angle hurt it (along with the blotchy background):
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And compare the sharpness and framing to this one:
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08/08/2007 01:35:56 AM
I like the centered (side to side) aspect of the photo but might have moved the subject down a bit. There is nice detail in the spider, but the focus is a little soft to bring it out. Also, possibly if the spider filled the frame, it might have been easier to appreciate the detail. You might have to move closer to the subject to pull this off - zooming in in an editing program may make the softness worse. Another approach might be to reduce the zoom and show the spider hanging from a web thread and located according to the rule of thirds. The simple background certainly emphasizes the subject. I wonder if a nice bokeh background might have increased the interest level of the photo. Good luck in future challenges.
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08/08/2007 01:02:40 AM
the composition just seems odd to me. (the outtake has better composition.) there is nothing drawing me into this picture. the BG is flat in color and texture, no DOF. the subject matter is interesting, but not the greatest angle to capture a story- its hard to tell whats going on unless you really study it... and with 600+ entries you gotta grab interest quickly. don't give up! (i won't either!)
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08/08/2007 12:58:36 AM
There's a bit of an issue with jpeg compression - the background has strange blobs of colour.

And really it looks like the spider is dead, just hanging from one leg...
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08/08/2007 12:51:54 AM
Something about the centered comp with the one stretched out leg throw it off for me. Also something about the angle of the photo doesn't draw the viewer in, just makes him more of a voyer in the scene-disconnected if that makes sense. (probably doesn't ;))

The neutral BG doesn't do anything to enhance the texture or color of the spider. The fly shows up but only after really studying it and I suspect most voters skipped right past the fly.

There really isn't anything horrible about the photo, just nothing that really grabs me and makes me sit up in my chair!

This is just my fly by opinion...maybe it sheds a little light on the voters reaction. :)
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
08/07/2007 09:05:27 AM
cool shot
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08/02/2007 11:28:49 PM
Spiders give me the willies. Nice pic though.
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08/02/2007 10:03:42 PM
oh, gross...
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