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kisha showing her patriotic side
kisha showing her patriotic side

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Challenge: Black and White Portrait II (Advanced Editing V*)
Camera: Nikon D200
Location: Hollywood, CA
Date: Jan 6, 2007
Aperture: f/3.8
ISO: 160
Shutter: 1/6
Galleries: Portraiture, Black and White
Date Uploaded: Jan 9, 2007


Place: 338 out of 491
Avg (all users): 4.8842
Avg (commenters): 5.0000
Avg (participants): 4.5319
Avg (non-participants): 5.1765
Views since voting: 1250
Views during voting: 662
Votes: 311
Comments: 36
Favorites: 4 (view)

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01/19/2007 10:01:19 PM
I meant to come back and comment.....I loved this shot but did not get a chance to vote it. To tell you the truth, I like it better as a statement than as a challeneg entry simply because it's such a great shot. I wholeheartedly love where you were coming from in the challenge as well.....and if you look at my profile and follow it to my entry, you'll see what I mean!
01/17/2007 06:55:26 AM
loved this image in voting and its probably one of the best uses of selective desat I've seen in a while. Way underrated, but I guess you kinda had to expect that here.
01/17/2007 01:23:38 AM
I just don't get it.... yeah patriotism can be misused but that doesn't mean we have to get upset at every instance of it. Oh well.
 Comments Made During the Challenge
01/16/2007 09:45:36 PM
bit controversial, but I realy like it! My only discrepency is that the whole image is not in b/w.
01/16/2007 12:17:20 PM
01/16/2007 01:21:28 AM
great shot .... funny as well ... i like it!!
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01/15/2007 07:49:49 PM
DNMC Black and white
01/15/2007 06:19:24 PM
nice desat portrait
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01/14/2007 11:54:54 PM
Okay - I'm sure you got docked for the color, but I like it! 8
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01/14/2007 01:25:30 AM
01/13/2007 06:34:36 PM
I love theater! 10!
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01/13/2007 02:31:12 PM
giving a 9 to balance out the slams you are no doubt getting. Great shot
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01/13/2007 09:24:40 AM
dont think there should be any colour in a black and white portrait,, sorry
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01/12/2007 08:16:07 PM
Sorry ... selective desat does not a "B&W Portrait" make in my world. 5 for tech though.
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01/12/2007 07:17:39 PM
I see color in the picture. On DPC this does not do well with the voters and your score would have said it all by now. Well I would not punish this entry for it.
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01/12/2007 03:23:12 PM
Powerful shot - well executed. As a picture I really like it, but for the challenge it is meant to be B&W.
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01/12/2007 06:56:12 AM
I do not think highly of this picture. I think the pose and look of the model are uninterested, which is probably not what you intended to picture. Floor and background are messy and distracting. The coloured flag ignores the theme of the challenge, and this type of photoshopping is far from original nowadays.

Last but not least, I do not value patriotism as something positive, but rather as a means of manipulation. Patriotism is not a bad thing by itself, but it is misused by governments to silence political opponents by labbelling them unpatriotic.
01/12/2007 01:19:36 AM
Sorry, I really like this shot. The selective desat takes it out of the competition. I gave it a 9 and as I came back had to hit you with DNMC vote. 5 because really like it. Should be a 4 or less in my little voting pattern.
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01/11/2007 10:06:47 PM
love the texture
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01/11/2007 09:49:02 PM
A different take but a sound entry in this very crowded challenge ... good luck
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01/11/2007 03:33:00 PM
I bet I know what you are getting stung on.. the colour in the BW challenge.. look, its a great idea and all, but completely dumps on the whole idea of the challenge. I am generally not a DNMC nazi, but in this case I will be.. 3
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01/11/2007 01:35:20 PM
not B+W = 1, interesting concept though.
01/11/2007 08:08:59 AM
Love the shot. Hope it does not get DNMC.
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01/11/2007 03:48:33 AM
nice idea, but this is a black and white challenge
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01/11/2007 12:24:57 AM
I'm sure your getting kicked aroung for the color in this, but I think it is really cool and great out of the box thinking. My vote will reflect your bravery and creative thinking.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
01/10/2007 10:09:56 PM
Nice image - too bad it is not black and white
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01/10/2007 08:17:51 PM
i think this would have worked even if the flag were b&w. it's easy to see what it is without the colour and no meaning would be lost
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01/10/2007 03:38:32 PM
This is not B&W
01/10/2007 03:26:09 PM
Nice out of the box thinking but you would have scored higher and still had the same effect in my opinion with the flag still being B/W. I like the ideal and photo.
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01/10/2007 03:20:33 PM
Hmm. This is an interesting image for me. My first thought was that the flag shouldn't be used like that. I know people do stuff like that all the time but it still kind of gets to me. However!! I'm putting that completely aside because that really doesn't have to do with your photo. I mean yeah, it's possible to present something in a way that is more offensive and maybe worthy of a score drop, but this is not it. So. On to the actual photo.

The first thing that jumps out at me about the image itself is that there is color. But I think that you used it well. This still fits the "B&W portrait" idea for me. Plus, there really seems like there is a good visual reason to have the selective desat (as opposed to a couple other images I have seen in this challenge where it seemed a bit to me like the color was in there "just because").

Tones are good, I like the composition a lot - the negative space seems to be just the right amount, and positioned in the right place. Everything is nicely lined up (the lines of the floor and the wall are very balanced / symmetrical). The wall and floor give the model a good context to be in - I would not have liked this image as much if it had been like some of the studio shots you see with a pure white or black background where it looks like the subject is floating. The pose is good. The way that she is standing, tilting her head, the expression on her face.. everything just works together very well I think. Even the irregularities on the floor and the spots on the wall add to the image for me.

The only negative thing I have to say is that I feel that the title does not have as much of an impact as would fit an image of this calibur.

I really feel like this is one of those images that I come across on DPC periodically - one that deserves to be in a news magazine's "photos of the year" edition. Congrats on a wonderful photo and good luck in the challenge.
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01/10/2007 03:00:34 PM
oh, man, what a sense of humor!:)lol
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01/10/2007 12:49:59 PM
Nice work, but personally I can't score layer masked desaturations high. Sorry.
01/10/2007 12:44:16 PM
Would have been great in another Challenge. Since the color is so dominant in the image I gotta say you were off mark. Otherwise, very cool image.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
01/10/2007 06:13:19 AM
I really like this. I hope people don't vote it down for having color in it. I too am not quite sure if this is valid here.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
01/10/2007 03:45:41 AM
Sorry...Black and White. Not Red and White and Black and Blue.
01/10/2007 01:25:04 AM
fiesty! nice desat
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