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07/19/2007 02:23:22 PM |
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04/24/2007 11:21:46 PM |
| I didn't vote on the AA challenge but laughed when I ran across the pic just now - great idea and I loved the title as well!! |
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01/25/2007 12:57:11 PM |
I would have been one of the idiots giving this a 10 had I voted on it.
haha, rock onnn |
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01/22/2007 08:15:19 PM |
Very creative ! People are too da** sensitive around here. Great shot, nice coloring and focus.
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01/17/2007 07:15:15 PM |
personally i feel it's very well done, well lit, I don't find anything offensive, I can see how someone would, but there are dildos & sex ads on TV all day long every day, this is part of every day life at this point.
My only issue with it is simply that the front battery is turned so the seam is in front... |
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01/11/2007 01:01:25 AM |
Heh.
I would recommend:
a) Taking the 1s in stride. You had to know you'd anger some people, and they're entitled to be angry if this kind of thing makes them angry. It's not for you or anyone else to tell them what they think is appropriate.
b) Taking the 10s in stride. You had to know some people would so enjoy the audacity that they'd give you a 10. It's not good form to tell them they were wrong, nor is it up to the 1 crowd to tell them that.
c) Enjoying the notoriety. After all, you put the shot in, you might as well sit back and watch the fireworks on both sides. And stop apologizing in your notes! You knew what you were doing, so take pride in it!
I probably would've voted this on its merits and then given you a point for having the guts to enter it. :) |
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01/07/2007 02:55:31 PM |
I'm just back to compliment you on receiving such a wide variety of comments and votes...
Art is about reaction and from the voting histogram you got reactions from all ends of the spectrum.
You got hammered pretty hard on the low-end, but only one person would comment on technical merit (which I disagree with).
Well done. :-)
Now, I do wonder what the photo would have looked like if you had raised the dildo off the glass and kept only a reflection of it in the glass slightly out of focus. Compositionally, I think it would have been stronger, but at the same time would lose some of the in your face punch.
As far as the "wash it" comments, I'm assuming that that translucent dildo has sparkles in it. I'm not sure how to make that more apparent without blowing highlights everywhere. |
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01/07/2007 12:41:42 PM |
| LOL! Oh geez... I missed this in the voting! I admire you pushing the envelope... sure did stir up lots of controversy :oP I have no problems with it.... well done. |
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01/07/2007 02:06:43 AM |
| YAY for another sony alpha i felt so lonely, personally i wasn't offended by the picture... just my 2 cents |
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01/06/2007 12:24:50 PM |
| Awesome take on the challenge. I'm sorry you got so many negative comments from people who chose to be offended by this. They obviously haven't seen Photoman_Forever's shot of the 'untraditional' nude model with her hand shoved into her panties. I'm as liberal as they come, but that one is a bit much for me and IMO should not be on this site which does have child photographers on it. This one is rated PG compared to that one. Most children over the age of 10 these days knows what a vibrator is. And it's a well taken photo. Anyone who said it's not a good photo is being influenced by their conservative offendedness... |
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01/05/2007 06:51:40 AM |
| I gave it an 8 wyldchyld. So go throw a tantrum somewhere else. |
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01/05/2007 02:03:58 AM |
| How about this . . . what if a photo offends you and you can not judge a photo based on it's technical merits . . . how about at that point you move on to the next picture that doesn't offend you that you can view with some objectivity and vote based on techinical merits of the photo? You do NOT have to vote on 100% of the photos in a challenge. Yes, I am saying if you are offended by a subject of a photo . . don't vote on it! I'll do the same . . . when I see the 75th photo of your kid, grandkid, dog, or pretty little posey, I will just pass on by and not slam it for the technical pitfalls or the fact that is does not meet the challenge . . . yet again. Because honestly, dpchallenge is not going to save the world, make the net a safer place for all humanity or fix the sorry state of this big blue ball. No name calling, no hurtful comments . . . just productive comments. (Yeah, I know, whatever . . hearts and flowers). Allow people who are inclined to think outside the box, to embrace their creativity . . . not stifle it. IF it meets the rules of the site, it should be judged fairly, regardless of subject matter. If you can't, then dq yourself as a judge for that photo. |
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01/05/2007 12:43:41 AM |
Oh give me a freakin break . . . kids see far worse than this benign image on the web, tv, magazines and movies. Is this image so much worse than the constant brutality of other creatures that they witness 45 billion times an hour? Is it ok that children watch something like oh I don't know . . . the evening news and see all the crap going on in the world? Should we ban newscasts, cartoons, movies, sitcoms, parental fights, oh and the shool yard and friends, magazines, textbooks . . . hell lets lock everyone in a room and give them white walls, white paper, white everything to look at . . . nothing to offend. I NOR IS ANYONE ELSE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR CHILDREN . . . I have four of the little boogers and have allowed them to see whatever comes there way . . . but I HAVE TALKED TO THEM AND GIVEN THEM THE INPUT OF A GOOD PARENT . . . . that is my responsibility . . not to try to keep the world out but to teach them how to deal with the world. VIBRATORS ARE OUT THERE . . . THOSE SCAREY MONSTERS . . . YES BRUTALITY IS OUT THERE . . . IT IS TERRIBLE. Do I view it as art no, but if it is within the rules and technically good, I would judge it as such. Doesn't mean I approve it . . . or would choose it as my subject.
If you really want to save all children and make the world a better place -- instead of attacking people on a website such as this for a benign image . . . go after movie producers, or politicians or some other hideous creature . . . not some poor smo who sees art where you can't.
Individual responsibilty and individual rights are all kept in the same place . . . in people who, like me, are willing to reach outside the box and not allow irrational fears, prejudices and hatred taint who I am, or what I stand up for. You can call me self righteous, you can call me . . umm what was the term someone used "devil's spawn" but as long as there are people like me in the world . . people like you can continue to take pictures of WHATEVER you CHOOSE and know that someone out here is going to judge you on the technical merits . . . even if it is another damn shot of your kid with it's finger up its nose or some smelly animal that you love. I am the person that is willing to stand up to the bullies, the egotists, the fanaticists that seek to limit a person's rights simply because they don't like something. Get a grip. Byte me. Whatever it takes. But continue to take pictures of pretty flowers if that is what you choose to do, but don't blast other's ideas of beauty or art or those who take the time and energy to defend personal artistic freedom and expression.
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01/04/2007 11:16:18 AM |
| This shot made both my wife and I crack up. I think its one of thiose shots that just needed to be taken. Great shot, the lighting works perfectly for the subject. |
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01/04/2007 11:07:49 AM |
Duracell's are too strong for toys, ((they burn out the toys too fast)).. you would have done better photographing the dollar store variety of double A's.. perhaps all the ones were a reflection of those who use toys on a regular basis and are in the know ;) :P
Just an idea but next time you photograph something along these lines.. maybe try to lube it up and add some water dropletts.. might hide the dust that sticks to those surfaces so terribly and give it a bit more depth ;)
I think its a great idea for a product/advertising type shot :) |
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01/04/2007 10:45:53 AM |
What offends me is not the picture, but comments like those of Wyldchyld that have the audacity to call people closed-minded, narrow-minded, or the like for taking issue with this picture. I got a kick out of this picture; but I understand perfectly well why some might take issue with it. It is not an illegitimate complaint to point out that kids can look at this site. Moreover, to answer that complaint by saying that it is parents' responsibility to monitor their children is a non-answer. We were all kids once. We all know what we were able to do behind our parents' backs. Also, we all know that their are bad parents out there who could care less what their kids see or do. Do we as a society, and as individuals bear no responsibility for the things we do that these and other children see?
Then there's the ludicrous position that "art" is above reproach. How many times do I have to ask it? What's so special about "art" that it can claim such an exalted position in society that no one may complain about it? How about a perfectly crafted painting, photo or sculpture of a child being molested? Is this acceptable under the mantle of "art?" I should hope not. What about a perfectly exposed and framed photo of a woman being raped or brutalized? Or a man for that matter?
Then there is the question of good taste. Again, I got a kick out of this picture. But does that mean it was in good taste? Does its good lighting and exposure make it art? And, even if it is art, should it be posted in a public forum? Do we bear no responsibility toward the community?
Where do individual rights end and individual responsibility begin?
I don't care about this photo, but I hate the self-righteous attitude of some of its defenders.
JuliBloc, you made a fair and well-reasoned protest. Good for you. |
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01/03/2007 08:09:15 PM |
People need to relax, get a life, and take the sticks out of their behinds!!!! There is nothing wrong with the content (especially when there is an entire category of nudity on here... and this is just rubber) and definitely nothing wrong with the shot!!!!! In fact I love the lighting and the reflections... nicely done!!!
and yes, this site is open for all ages, but if you are that concerned about what your child might be looking at, then view the photos first and if you question the content... dont let them on that week!
good job lkn4truth on takin the gutsy shot... it was the first thing i thought of too!! haha |
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01/03/2007 07:07:57 PM |
Why, if someone was offended, did they come back to view this shot after voting was closed? (JULIBOC)
If small boxed in narrow minds are offended or shocked by art at any level, then they should stay out of artistic sites. People view art differently. Vote on the technical merits . . . if the subject matter is something you don't like . . . so be it . . . but don't knock something technically.
This is about the artwork, not the person, don't go harrassing people personally . . . it is about the PICTURE . . . not the person.
If someone is so narrow that they can only see the subject and not the technical aspects of a shot, then they should not be on this or any other artistic voting type site.
It is a vibrator -- millions are owned worldwide by men and women of all colors, socioeconmic classes, religions, etc. Get over it. And yes, your children, probably do know what they are and that mom keeps her's in the second drawer of her nightstand. COME ON PEOPLE . . . SEX IS PART OF LIFE ON PLANET EARTH, IT IS NOT DIRTY, NUDITY IS NOT BAD, FORNIFICATION HAPPENS. GET A FREAKIN GRIP. Sex, art, emotions, love, nudity, lust . . . it is all there . . . . on DPCHALLENGE. Get over your freaking self-righteous, narrowminded, boxed-in selves.
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01/03/2007 03:10:33 PM |
I consider myself a conservative BUT this is photography and I like GOOD photography...to you a very well done...and to thoe P R U D E S
I have a finger I'd be more than willing to give them to look at. |
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01/03/2007 01:41:47 PM |
Here's my response to your side note above about being ticked off by the 24 '1' votes.
In my opinion it was tasteless, immature, and a lousy photo. It deserved a 1 from me, and I thought it only fair to give you an explanation. I noticed that, of all the '1's you got, I was the only voter to tell you why I voted that way. You could easily have put any vibrator, or other battery operated device in place of the dildo. It was unnecessary from an artistic stand point and IMO was done purely for the shock factor. Believe me, I am old enough, and experienced enough to not be shocked by such things. And I appreciate a beautiful nude as much as anyone.
I disagree with those who said the lighting was good - the highlights were blown out. The composition was only mediocre. On it's technical merit alone I might have given it a 4. But there is more to art and photography than just technical merit. Subjective reaction is always a factor in a viewer's opinion of a work of art. So there you have my full opinion. If you can't take your knocks, then don't put your work out for public reaction. |
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01/03/2007 01:17:58 PM |
| Testing a theory were we? ;) |
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01/03/2007 11:30:01 AM |
Originally posted by jmoore:
I am assuming that this is the photo that started the whole nudity thead. You know what, I did not know what this was at 11 and if the persons who kid say this does then they have bigger issues then complaining to you about the photo. I love fine art nudes and not one person can say what is art and what is not cause it is different for everyone. Keep doing what you are doing and don't worry about the people who get offended. If they don't like it then they can choose not to be apart of the site.
As far as the photo goes, I think your light could have been more exciting, it is a little to straight on for my tastes. I like dramitic light! |
I got a kick out of the picture, but the comment I'm quoting above is sophomoric. "Don't worry about the people who get offended!"? What kind of attitude is that? We should all take an attitude of responsibility toward the community. Different people will differ on what that entails, but "Don't worry about the people who get offended" is anti-community, selfish and childish. I say, "Be considerate of the community. Weigh the consequences and implications of your actions; and then make your decision." Sometimes people will take issue with those decisions. Sometimes you will choose to push the limits; and sometimes that will be ok. But don't approach it with the attitude advocated in that quote. |
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01/03/2007 10:34:32 AM |
Bravo!
I get so sick and tired of hearing/seeing comments like 'family site'.... wtfe! Forget the prudes, label it adult & let the rest learn how to monitor their children's internet activity. Plenty of us do NOT have a problem with the content, so please continue to entertain!
Congratulations on a colorful capture with good details - and a pretty good job overall, given the Basic Editing. Plus, it already sounds as though you've learned something about lighting, and THAT seems to be the entire point of DPC (to challenge yourself, as well as others). |
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01/03/2007 09:13:39 AM |
Them prudes.... :-(
Really good take on the challenge, very brave of you!
Don't let the prudish and square minded bug you. |
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01/03/2007 08:56:33 AM |
What a travesty... the 1's tick me off too. I'm pretty dang conservative in my social views as well, but this is just a photography, and a great one at that.
You know what they say, the good art always stirs controversy and based on the number of comments during voting... you got yourself some bonafied (no pun intended) art here!!! |
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01/03/2007 02:43:11 AM |
I can only agree with comments already made. From a technical and creative point of view, this was never going to ribbon. However, the plethora of low votes says more about voters trying to impose their own moral views than anything else. Ho hum....
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01/03/2007 02:17:22 AM |
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01/03/2007 12:44:45 AM |
I agree with you post.
Get her Ray (ghostbusters)
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01/03/2007 12:35:42 AM |
Judging by the number of low scores this image garnered, it would seem that the quality and technical merits of the image were relegated to the dustbin by some of the more conservative elements on this site.
The image certainly did not merit the bounty of 10's you received, but by the same token, I fear that the 1's are more reflective of the righteous indignation of some voters than they are of the quality of the image.
The image certainly met the criteria of the challenge, was in focus and was well lit... and that in itself should warrant a score of 5 at the very least... but then again, it would seem that unbiased decisions might be difficult for some to render when faced with a controversial subject matter.
Ray
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01/02/2007 10:24:31 PM |
| pretty distasteful in my humble opinion |
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01/02/2007 07:15:28 PM |
| ROFL - too too funny! I'm sure you'll get slammed by the conservative sect, but I think it's great. 10 |
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01/02/2007 01:03:35 PM |
a 9 just for grabbing my attention on a boring topic.
good backlight highlighting and use o the black mirror |
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01/02/2007 07:31:41 AM |
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01/01/2007 08:26:16 AM |
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01/01/2007 12:19:36 AM |
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12/31/2006 09:25:54 PM |
One of my favorites, but I bet we won't see it on the front page :-(
I like your choice of table surface (i.e. the reflection) and the backlighting. |
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12/31/2006 08:59:32 PM |
| fuck yeah... i was hoping someone would do something out of the box, a little risky..... well yeah.. anyways.. good job |
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12/31/2006 08:39:33 AM |
Better than a cucumber. Who would have thunk it! lol
An What was on your mind that lead up to taking this photo?
Quite amusing. Great colour! Luv the reflection. |
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12/31/2006 12:29:10 AM |
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12/30/2006 09:58:58 AM |
| pushing the rules to the edge. Nice work! |
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12/30/2006 12:29:06 AM |
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12/29/2006 01:53:18 AM |
I am assuming that this is the photo that started the whole nudity thead. You know what, I did not know what this was at 11 and if the persons who kid say this does then they have bigger issues then complaining to you about the photo. I love fine art nudes and not one person can say what is art and what is not cause it is different for everyone. Keep doing what you are doing and don't worry about the people who get offended. If they don't like it then they can choose not to be apart of the site.
As far as the photo goes, I think your light could have been more exciting, it is a little to straight on for my tastes. I like dramitic light! |
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12/28/2006 11:04:51 PM |
| I wish you much luck :-) Nicely photographed :-) |
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12/28/2006 08:09:44 PM |
| maybe you should have cleaned it before taking the photo? Pretty Nasty captain slammo! |
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12/28/2006 06:36:09 PM |
| Great composition...with a sense of humour as well....amongst my top marks this morning! 9 |
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12/28/2006 04:31:47 PM |
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12/28/2006 04:09:04 PM |
| Duracell M3 Ultra lasts even longer. :) |
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12/28/2006 02:06:20 PM |
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12/28/2006 11:56:09 AM |
| Gutsy and funny! And, you don't even have to make him dinner! |
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12/28/2006 11:43:19 AM |
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12/28/2006 09:18:18 AM |
''you are the spawn of satan''
This is vulgar and unnecessary. |
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12/28/2006 06:49:16 AM |
| nice idea, composition and lighting, but will probably be hammered by the voters (and have lots of views, who wouldn't be curious who posted this?) |
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12/28/2006 02:20:28 AM |
| Love the honest approach to this challenge. Great approach to the 'Power' behind life! |
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12/27/2006 09:51:13 PM |
| A little tacky. Does that really only use 2 AA? |
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12/27/2006 09:31:04 PM |
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12/27/2006 08:15:29 PM |
| I am curious to read the comments to this photo when the contest he ends. for me the image is amusing and ironic, there are some points on the..... and on it reflection that was better to clean but i don't know if this operation is possible in basic editing, perhaps was better to cover it with a protective one :) 7 |
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12/27/2006 04:10:10 PM |
| Quite funny. I'm wondering if the impact might have been greater if we saw the batteries and only the reflection of the sex toy. |
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12/27/2006 12:59:58 PM |
| think they call this "BOB" |
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12/27/2006 12:39:43 PM |
| Do we have any idea where this has been? |
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12/27/2006 11:30:08 AM |
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12/27/2006 10:03:24 AM |
| LOL, I can't wait to read all the comments that you will get on that one. |
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12/27/2006 09:48:55 AM |
| I don't think this is a place for such photo |
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12/27/2006 08:35:40 AM |
| Great idea. Nasty, though, it's dirty between the bumps! Don't you wash it? |
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12/27/2006 08:14:07 AM |
| c'est vrai, ça peut aussi servir à ça ! :) |
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12/27/2006 08:04:01 AM |
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12/27/2006 06:28:58 AM |
| ...mmm...nice! a 10 for lighting and creativity. |
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12/27/2006 05:34:10 AM |
| I hereby bequeath to you the title "Ballmaster General" |
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12/27/2006 02:59:35 AM |
| Too blatant...no very imaginative; you could have exploited the subject a bit more subtly and cleverly, even cropping the head out would have added to the picture by leaving something to the iamgination, as it is it just looks vulgar. |
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12/27/2006 02:08:24 AM |
| ya.. i cant see this going over well.. |
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12/27/2006 01:57:48 AM |
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12/27/2006 01:53:32 AM |
| did you go buy it especially or did you have it to hand!!?? ... great shot ... =8 |
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12/27/2006 01:43:41 AM |
| Nice ummmmm...reflection. LOL! Do you think they'll ask you to remove this? Good luck. :) |
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12/27/2006 01:31:56 AM |
| Now this takes guts!!! bonus points for sure. |
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12/27/2006 01:16:03 AM |
Hey, that takes balls
LoL |
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12/27/2006 01:11:39 AM |
Okay, it's in focus, it meets the challenge -
but then there's the whole penis thing... |
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12/27/2006 01:05:17 AM |
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12/27/2006 12:51:03 AM |
| As far as vibrator pictures go... that's probably the best shot I've seen of one. Creative and a great shot. Not crazy about the subject but it's probably just envy... 9. |
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12/27/2006 12:43:14 AM |
| Oh boy, get ready for the comments. ROFL - never seen one that translucent. ha ha ha ha Heh, you got nerve. |
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12/27/2006 12:41:33 AM |
| hmm, usually I find humor in these sort of shots, but this is just in bad taste. Not looking forward to see who this belongs to. |
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12/27/2006 12:26:37 AM |
Nice. Just for novelty and creativity, you get a "9" — :-D.
(Though, "technically," I'd like to see a bit more saturation in the shot.) |
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12/27/2006 12:22:52 AM |
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12/27/2006 12:22:50 AM |
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