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From Death
From Death
SherwinJames


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Challenge: Seed (Advanced Editing IV)
Camera: Nikon D70s
Lens: Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D
Location: NJ, USA
Date: Sep 17, 2006
Aperture: f/11
ISO: 200
Shutter: 1/125 sec
Galleries: Nature, Still Life
Date Uploaded: Sep 12, 2006

Seeds of life from the death of a flower.

Statistics
Place: 89 out of 163
Avg (all users): 5.3194
Avg (commenters): 0.0000
Avg (participants): 5.0000
Avg (non-participants): 5.5227
Views since voting: 1344
Views during voting: 273
Votes: 144
Comments: 13
Favorites: 0


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09/26/2006 03:53:17 AM
Wow I am surprised that you didn't receive any comments at all. I looked at it for abit and tried to figure out why it didn't connect. When I look at it, to me it seems like it is a walnut and raisins in sand. Maybe voters who look for 2 seconds thought the same and moved on. I don't know much about day lilies but I am unsure if they grow around sand and perhaps the voters thought it was out of place and just moved on with a five. I have received comments where I realize how broad a range of voters there are in challenges, and choosing a seed that is not easily recognizable and fairly easy to be misinterpeted as something not a seed, would make it difficult for them to begin to understand your message and would think they just don't get it but it is a good photo and give you a 4, 5, or 6. I hope this helps some. You know you got my respect Doc. Good luck in the future, your photos always have a story and it great to see what your up to.
Joe
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09/25/2006 06:16:26 PM
The bokeh is nice, but there is a loss of detail in the right side of the mound (it's a little washed out).

Like the others, I didn't get it. My first thoughts were a pecan (or even a dead leaf) with raisins. With "death" in the title, that's what made me think of a dead leaf.

What did you use for the sand effect? If it was brown sand (or you wanted a sepia effect), then the color cast is good. If it was salt, then there may be some color cast issues.

I've entered dozens of photographs (mostly in other mediums, not DPC)and have come to face the fact that not everyone can be moved, and not everyone's "hot buttons" pushed, by every photograph that you enter or display. There are always a great number of viewers that just won't "get it" and DPC is no different.

At any rate, keep up the good work (I've perused your portfolio) and you'll get some great constructive feedback. "Patience, my young grasshopper." :D

Message edited by author 2006-09-25 18:18:07.
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09/25/2006 05:26:56 PM
I neither entered nor voted the seed challenge. So I'm innocent! If I had voted, I might have given this a 4.

Here is my "direct" reaction to the photo and the why behind the 4. I get the "life from death" motif but this doesn't tell me or show me anything new in that respect. The seed pod has wonderful texture as does the sand with the terrific side lighting. I think if you had empahsized the textures and really focused on bringing them out, you photo would have scored higher. That probably requires a tighter crop, possibly the bottom and left 2/3rd of the frame. The sand just to the left of the pod is blown out so you have no chance with the texture there. Perhaps soften the lighting from the right and add a bit from the left to preserve all the texture available to you. The three little seeds detract IMO. They are just featureless black spots. Death from death in fact. If one of them was sprouted and some green was growing there would have been a purpose in having them there and your title would have worked splendidly. Or if there was a little rivulet (or even the equivelent of a dry stream bed, that might have implied the seeds could survive.
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09/25/2006 01:05:10 PM
I gave it a 8. I like light and composition and title to :)
Cause my bad english i leave few comments :(
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09/25/2006 12:47:22 PM
I thought it was a pecan buried in something. Didn't get it....sorry.
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09/25/2006 12:40:59 PM
I know when I don't get many comments that the subject is just not appealing to the voters. My abstract macro is experiencing this right now. I won't got into the technicals on yours as others have. I don't know what your subject is..... it's kinda blah. I believe that the hill of sand or salt had some potential with the right lighting and subject to go with it. I think it scored fairly well, but I would, I seldom score over 5.5. ;)
Good luck on your next one.
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09/25/2006 12:17:08 PM
I'd say "b) The photo presented conflicting thoughts or messages, and voters were left unsure of what to comment."

I find the photo unpleasant. Unattractive colors. Seeds that look like raisins. Foreground that is OOF and blown. But the title would imply that was what you were trying to achieve.

It is surprising that you didn't get any comments on this.
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09/25/2006 11:27:41 AM
I actually looked at this one a few times during the voting. The composition grabbed me immediately - I liked the sand, the DoF, and the overall 'feel' of the shot.

What "didn't" work for me was 2 things:
1. the flower just looked unappealing (couldn't figure out what it was - it almost looked like a nutshell), and
2. the seeds REALLY looked like raisins.

Overall, I thought it was a 'good' shot that just begged for better 'props'. :O)
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09/25/2006 09:41:20 AM
Perosnally I didnt get it. Missed the message altogether. Felt flat and the seeds and pod really didnt hold any interest for me. Overall just not an attractive shot. But it happens to all of us. Your portfolio is strong. Just call this a hiccup on your path through DPC.
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09/25/2006 09:37:57 AM
I gave it a 7. It fit the challenge, clarity was good as were details. I do agree with jaded_youth in that the seeds looked like raisins. I didn't like the shadow on the left side. It's also probably a bit too centered. The seed pod is almost in the middle and the dividing line between foreground and background is centered.
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09/25/2006 09:35:13 AM
I gave it a 6 in voting, though I'm not sure why I didn't go back and bump it up to a 7, now that I look at it again. I liked the composition and monochromatic nature of the shot; technically it's find to me. In reading your description, I wouldn't have known it was a flower - looks like a seed pod of some kind to me (which is fine, since that's pretty much what you were after, I think.)
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09/25/2006 09:31:38 AM
Didn't understand the title, nor why the capsule is buried in sand. Think it is no good setup, doesn't look as if the seeds were fallen out of the capsule, but intentionally placed there. Foreground is distracting through its unsharpness and the dark shadow. Color isn't appealing.

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09/25/2006 09:30:05 AM
personally I didnt really get that those were seeds from a flower. guess i'm dumb. they looked like raisins. the photo is done technically well. just didn't speak to me. I didn't vote on this challenge but I suspect I'd have given it a 5. HTH
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