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The Loyal Worker
The Loyal Worker

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Challenge: Fauna (Classic Editing)
Camera: Canon EOS-10D
Location: Zilker botanical garden
Date: Apr 19, 2003
Aperture: F2.5
ISO: 100
Shutter: 1/500
Galleries: Nature, Macro
Date Uploaded: Apr 19, 2003

Busy bees. This is cropped from a photo I took with a 50 mm lens with the Canon 10D.

Place: 60 out of 313
Avg (all users): 6.1870
Avg (commenters): 7.2273
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Avg (non-participants): 6.1461
Views since voting: 1090
Votes: 246
Comments: 29
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05/01/2003 02:19:54 AM
Liked the colors so much because it made me feel like a bee. Will revisit Rockwell periodically to re-appraise. BTW, not everybody read that thread so when you're using his terminology in other threads, some people may feel taken aback, lol.

Message edited by author 2003-05-01 10:45:57.
05/01/2003 01:00:33 AM
Hey you either love the saturation or you hate it :) heeeheee...

Yeah the 70-200mm is good but the magnification factor is only 0.25x or something. It's good for one purpose: bringing objects closer, but compared with a 100mm macro lens, there is no comparison on magnification because you can go a lot closer than the zoom.... And i am less than 1 meter away when i shot this -- the 70-200mm lens i believe require 1.3 meters to focus.... so that wasn't option either. I'll post the shot later -- you'd be surprised just how un-macro this shot is!

Yes Journey, i have become more of a whore lately :)

(Channel mixer, just make sure ALL colors adds to 100%... so you can increase RED in red channel by say, 140%, but make sure to subject -20%/-20% on the other colors)

BTW i was finally able to vote for you Gordon on the photo contest :) hope you get to the top three!

Message edited by author 2003-05-01 01:03:22.
04/30/2003 07:33:10 PM
I'll be darned, not a macro! And i resent the fact that you proclaim that out of principle you never crop and then end up doing it big time. Whenever i was working on my pictures, i recalled that post and felt so pitiful that i needed to resort so often to cropping.
Funny too, that Gordon said that the saturation hurts his eyes. I really love the colors and it was me who criticized Rockwell's colors :) Thx for the channel mixer tip; for pictures, i tended to use hue/sat.
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04/30/2003 04:25:58 PM
This is a cool shot - great detail on the bee - though the saturation is hurting my eyes :)

Btw ,the 70-200L _is_ a great lens for doing close-up work... Just because it doesn't say macro, doesn't mean it can't be used (I have an entire book on macro photography that only mentions macro lenses for about 4 pages) I've taken some nice macro of flowers with it.

All 70-200 lens for the close-ups
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04/30/2003 01:06:41 AM
Thanks Journey. I think you'd be surprised that this is a crop -- yes, i am whoring in this challenge :) and a VERY tight crop indeed, almost no resizing needed, seriously.

I did several crops of this scene and use this the best, then just add a bit of saturation (Channel Mixer to minimize noises -- if you use saturation button in PS it adds a lot more noises). That's why the edges of the stem is sort of blurry because i am losing resolution big time.

It was shot with a 50 mm lens too.... just cropped. The original photo had the bee as the focus @ F2.5 so i know most of the flowers will be OOF outside the plane, hand held, was going to do a FLORA photo and turned it to a Fauna challenge.

Too bad this will not be able to be "printed" as it is a very very very small crop of the original photo and doens't have enough resolution. It's funny how a lot of people "believed" it's a macro when it's really just a large photo cropped down tightly.

Oh yeah, i do have that 70-200 mm L lens :) but it's not suitable for macros. Probably could've used it to get closer than what the original photo was... but it's not a macro lens -- they both have the 100 mm macro.

Message edited by author 2003-04-30 01:12:37.
04/30/2003 12:37:51 AM
Oh, paganini, YOU did this shot? That pleases me to no end!!! I knew of course that this came from a Canon but i was suspecting it was Dadas or Gordon since they both have that great 200mm lens. But since i knew they had both read the Velvia thread they would understand the joke (it was a joke, hope you realize that). I have never given a 10+ to any picture. This is my favorite of all pictures at dpc ever! I am really not a silly goose but this picture is so beautiful, it delights me so that it brings tears to my eyes looking at it. You are such a 'technical' guy (not a put down by any means, merely an observation) but this picture shows that you're really moving around in the domain of Art. I have thought a lot about this picture this week and fully intended to make whoever did this my one and only (so far) favorite photographer. So, there you go! I suspected this picture was too sophisticated to win but that it didn't make the top 10-20 is truly pathetic :) Sorry for writing this book! Btw, did i tell you i LOVE this picture?
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
04/28/2003 08:39:17 PM
This is almost really good. There is just too much yellow to this. I think its oversaturated and it's not the clearest shot either which makes little yellow ghosts around the little yellow flowers. Maybe a ladybug would provide a little more contrast. I think if it were just a little sharper, the framing and the distance of the bee would overcome the yellow and I would have to score it higher. But as is, its an almost very good shot.
04/28/2003 09:32:39 AM
i like it very much, but how did you blur the backgound so much... it seems a bit like a filter. anyway the composition is great
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04/27/2003 12:51:26 AM
nice image, i like how the bee shows up contrasting with the yellow flowers, good subject choice
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04/26/2003 06:54:16 PM
great colours on this one!
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04/26/2003 08:31:25 AM
Great focus, framing and positioning of the bee.
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04/25/2003 10:20:53 PM
Good capture but too saturated.
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04/25/2003 07:23:21 PM
wonderful wonderful colors. its strange that the bee seems dull when the flowers are so bright. great detail on the bee.
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04/25/2003 06:47:17 PM
This is a fantastic photo. Color looks great, and I actually love how the bee is not centered.
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04/25/2003 03:35:31 PM
Nice shot. love the colours
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04/25/2003 02:11:07 PM
nice macro. nice colors, very good image... !
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04/25/2003 01:40:54 PM
Good job, i like the photo.
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04/25/2003 09:55:08 AM
very nice
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04/24/2003 04:48:47 PM
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04/24/2003 04:13:15 PM
I wish the leftside was cropped out or something - the out of focus flower detracts from a superb main subject. Either way, it's a 10. Great capture.
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04/24/2003 03:42:08 PM
Great DOF and colors.
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04/24/2003 01:30:17 PM
That yellow really glows, huh? Think it distracts though, for me, rather than adding much to the shot - at least as far the bee is concerned, which ought to be the subject of the shot and the eye is constant;y pulled away. 6
04/23/2003 02:44:46 PM
Oh wow, oh wow, oh wow! THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY. I'm not going to waste timewriting down all the things that are so superb with this image because you already know it more than i do. I keep on looking and looking at this image and i just don't know what i like the most: the exquisite details in the bee's wings or that you lovely, lovely impressionistic flower center on the left. Oh, this is great! Sorry for being such a twit about it but this really has tremendous impact on me. Colors are great, too. Velvia? :) I recognize lots of technical mastery here and also some darn fine equipment as well. Love the artisticity of this shot. 10+ Journey
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04/23/2003 02:34:42 PM
Very nice image. Nice bright colors as well. Good job.
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04/23/2003 12:35:42 PM
Beautiful shot, fit for publication. Great focus, composition, color and exposure. 10
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04/23/2003 02:21:31 AM
The colors are so vivid here and the main subject is sharp and in focus. There's nothing for me to criticize, it's perfect - 10.
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04/23/2003 01:39:49 AM
Way better than any of the bees I took. Didn't enter mine. :)
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04/23/2003 01:38:00 AM
ouch! too much yellow maybe step it down a bit a 5
04/23/2003 12:12:50 AM
love the colors in this one
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