Cloning question - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

09/07/2008 05:21:45 PM · #1

Is it legal to clone out thin strings supporting something in your photo under the advanced editing rules?

bvlindalou

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

09/07/2008 05:27:53 PM · #2

You may:
clone out incidental power lines, twigs, dust specks, stray hairs, and similar minor imperfections within any capture used.......
yes you can

Yo_Spiff

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

09/07/2008 05:29:58 PM · #3

I don't think so, if that would fall under the rule of "changing the viewers perception of the scene". It's a fine line sometimes. I would not consider a supporting string to be "incidental".

I know others have gone to great lengths to support objects invisibly. However, I would accept the opinion of an SC member over my own.

Message edited by author 2008-09-07 17:31:54.

Ann

Olympus OM-D E-M1

Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro

09/07/2008 05:33:00 PM · #4

I've done things like that and had them validated, but it's definitely risky.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

09/07/2008 05:42:48 PM · #5

Originally posted by Blue Moon:

Is it legal to clone out thin strings supporting something in your photo under the advanced editing rules?

It has been done many many times under Advance and passed validation so yes.

freakin_hilarious

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/07/2008 06:33:15 PM · #6

Another vote for yes. This entry of mine was validated during voting:

Original:

09/07/2008 06:34:07 PM · #7

Originally posted by Blue Moon:

Is it legal to clone out thin strings supporting something in your photo under the advanced editing rules?

Hi Blue Moon,

Incidental is the key word, and changing viewer perception is the line. We have validated many similar shots; however, sometimes when peeps write to us and say "Hey, can I clone out this twig?" we look at it and go "Do they mean that big honking branch?"

You are probably fine if the string is indeed thin and just a distraction as opposed to being a prominent line in the shot, but if you'd like to be more sure you can always send a resized original and a proposed edit to us here.

Good luck in the challenge!

09/07/2008 06:45:48 PM · #8

Originally posted by L2:

Originally posted by Blue Moon:
Is it legal to clone out thin strings supporting something in your photo under the advanced editing rules?

Hi Blue Moon,

Incidental is the key word, and changing viewer perception is the line. We have validated many similar shots; however, sometimes when peeps write to us and say "Hey, can I clone out this twig?" we look at it and go "Do they mean that big honking branch?"

You are probably fine if the string is indeed thin and just a distraction as opposed to being a prominent line in the shot, but if you'd like to be more sure you can always send a resized original and a proposed edit to us here.

Good luck in the challenge!

Will do, but how do I send both the original and the edited version if there is only 1 box to upload a photo? Do you want me to put a thumbnail version from my portfolio into the message box, or do you want me to create a new image with them side by side...??

Olympus 7-14mm f/4.0 Zuiko Digital Zoom

09/07/2008 06:49:25 PM · #9

Originally posted by Blue Moon:

Originally posted by L2:

Originally posted by Blue Moon:
Is it legal to clone out thin strings supporting something in your photo under the advanced editing rules?

Hi Blue Moon,

Incidental is the key word, and changing viewer perception is the line. We have validated many similar shots; however, sometimes when peeps write to us and say "Hey, can I clone out this twig?" we look at it and go "Do they mean that big honking branch?"

You are probably fine if the string is indeed thin and just a distraction as opposed to being a prominent line in the shot, but if you'd like to be more sure you can always send a resized original and a proposed edit to us here.

Good luck in the challenge!

Will do, but how do I send both the original and the edited version if there is only 1 box to upload a photo? Do you want me to put a thumbnail version from my portfolio into the message box, or do you want me to create a new image with them side by side...??

Some people do create the new image, but it doesn't matter. I'm online now and will look for your ticket, reply to it and then you can reply back with the second file if that's easier.

Edited to fix quotes.

Message edited by author 2008-09-07 18:49:55.

one2one

Olympus E-5

09/07/2008 06:52:04 PM · #10

I thought I had a good understanding of the fishing line usage on this site in advanced editing but after reading L2's post, i'm not so sure.

A simple yes or no please; Is it allowed or not?

Give us samples of what wouldn't be accepted and what would. Frankly, I don't see how you can say yes to one and no to another for using fishing line to suspend an object.

cpanaioti

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

09/07/2008 06:56:07 PM · #11

Originally posted by Jac:

That's just it. It's not a simple yes or no. It depends on the image and how prominent the line is that is to be cloned out.

09/07/2008 06:58:38 PM · #12

Originally posted by Jac:

Hi Jac, fishing line is almost always OK. I personally can't commit to every situation, the example posted earlier is a good representative of what is allowed.

And my post was about twigs vs. logs... not fishing line versus rope. :)

09/07/2008 07:03:29 PM · #13

internet isn't staying connected for more than 1 minute so I'll have to upload them later when I fix whatever is wrong with my connection, but it is fishing line by the way.

09/07/2008 07:10:20 PM · #14

ok i sent it finally

09/07/2008 07:17:28 PM · #15

Originally posted by Blue Moon:

ok i sent it finally

Check your e-mail. :)