My First Ever Model Shoot!! - DPChallenge Forums

06/02/2008 12:41:38 PM · #1

And I'm diggin the pics!!! These are semi edits (ran out of time to do the fine stuff last night, but I wanted to show some anyway. Please criitiques brutally cause I'm doing another shoot this saturday (different girl).
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Tamron 16-300mm Di II VC PZD MACRO w/Canon Nikon mount

06/02/2008 01:24:01 PM · #2

the shots are good, left you a couple of comments, the black bar though over her nose is killing me and really takes away from gorgeous eyes.

she has her mouth open in nearly every shot, she needs to soften her mouth.

you have done an amazing job for your first ever model shoot

but you also have to remember tht you have to direct them and what make up they apply etc

Message edited by author 2008-06-02 13:25:35.

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

06/02/2008 02:56:54 PM · #3

Thanks for that... I wasn't sure what to expect with this shoot... she's actually a makeup artist that wants to become a model, so I left her to decided on the makeup... If I do shoot again I will remember that as well as her mouth.. I was so caught up with getting shoots and the rest of her body that I totally forgot about her mouth... Ii also has someone else comment that her facial expressions could have been better. Guess I chalk that up to our combined inexperiance.

Thanks for the comments.... any more out there people?

TCGuru

Canon EOS-40D

06/02/2008 03:00:15 PM · #4

You know, usually when I see these threads, I open them and the photos just strike me as very non-professional. Sometimes even downright bad. So, I comment on how they can look better, etc...

However, I am quite glad I took the time to look through these! I LOOOOOVE the one of her behind the bars with the cat eyes. LOVELY!!!

She does seem to be sneering in a lot of them. I agree with Juliet on that one, she needs to soften her mouth. :)

Otherwise, WONDERFUL work and it was a pleasure looking through them :)

Looking forward to seeing more!!

Tamron 16-300mm Di II VC PZD MACRO w/Canon Nikon mount

06/02/2008 03:07:40 PM · #5

I am nto sure if it is a sneering mouth, more of an attempt at a ZooLander pout.

I aso think that the black bridge is making her look like she is sneering too/

I hae to say though, I am impressed, these are the best pictures that you have in your port

06/02/2008 03:50:48 PM · #6

Originally posted by JulietNN:

Thanks to you and to

TCGuru.... high praise coming from you two... I promise I wont let it go to my head :)

the outdoor location was a local comunity center ina poorer neigborhood, and the cateye one was towards the end.. when i saw the picture on my computer afterwards I just new she needed cat eyes.. I'm hopeing she likes it too.

Message edited by author 2008-06-02 15:51:07.

xianart

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

06/02/2008 04:10:37 PM · #7

technically, they are good shots, so i'm going to give a crit for your model.

i preface this by saying this is not a personal attack - i speak as someone who was a model for years, and has experience with this. she is a very pretty girl, with fabulous bone structure and a superb body. as said by everyone else, her mouth is the problem. it seems that she has quite large lips and the underlying muscles thereof. What she needs to do is spend a lot of time looking in a mirror, with a friend, making faces. there will be some positions and angles from which to shoot that will minimise her lips, and some that will exaggerate them:

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Exaggerate: [thumb]684844[/thumb] [thumb]684850[/thumb] [thumb]684846[/thumb]

i hope this is helpful.

06/02/2008 04:13:12 PM · #8

That's great Advise...!!!! thanks! I'm hopeing to shoot with here again sometime in the future so and I think this will help her alot too.

Tamron 16-300mm Di II VC PZD MACRO w/Canon Nikon mount

06/02/2008 04:20:50 PM · #9

I agree with you totally Xiant, if you look at the shots the shots are great, most of the constructive critisism comes down to her. As you said she is just starting to do this.

I think the main problem is she has a strong jawbone too, and her mouth is open in all of the shots. She needs to do what X said and look in the mirror and pull funny faces and pose. Most people when they look in the mirror, do actually do that exact same pose.

As a MUA, show her the one that I mentioned the beard on, it is just teh make up or the fake tan that is doing it, she needs to blend more. She is a powerful looking woman and strong poses go for her well. Ask her to practise with her eyes too, she needs to be able to convey more emiotion in them, at the moment, you have all these shots that really good, but are basically the same thing over and over again. SO soft eyes, hard eyes (which she has to a T), sly eyes, come hither eyes, same goes for the mouth, exactly teh same,

I am so glad that X brought up the point about the model, it is exaclty what i wanted to say, but i do remember a HUGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE hupla when someone pointed out faults in a model and the photographer was very pissed off.

So if I have pissed you off, let me know ASAP and I will remove my post forthwith

So please dont take this personally, or her to take this personally

xianart

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

06/02/2008 04:25:34 PM · #10

that's it juliet - to be a model is to be an actress in stills. more emotion and variation. she'll be great with a little practice.

boyd2000

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS for Canon

06/02/2008 04:25:54 PM · #11

I commented on the one with the bars before reading the rest of the comments here. I like the Angelina Jolie lips. And after readng JulietNN's comment I hope I wasn't too hard on the model with my teeth comment. I'll change the wording if you want.

06/02/2008 04:27:29 PM · #12

Yo know I have a much thicker skin than that :) and I know that any comments you make

JulietNN are not meant as an attack on either of us! I really do appreciate the comments of everyone here on DPC and especially yours because you take the time to look, be honest, and very helpful in what you write... so THANKS!!!!

Message edited by author 2008-06-02 16:28:33.

06/02/2008 04:30:02 PM · #13

Originally posted by boyd2000:

Not to harsh... and point taken... frankly I'm sure if she really wants to make a go of this that there will be people much harsher and less kind than anyone here can be (not that any of you have been too harsh)

Tamron 16-300mm Di II VC PZD MACRO w/Canon Nikon mount

06/02/2008 04:30:11 PM · #14

Thank you Eye, I just do not want to turn this into , you are attacking my model, you should be banned' thing.

I am really proud of you

Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS for Canon

06/02/2008 04:35:49 PM · #15

Originally posted by JulietNN:

Thank you Eye, I just do not want to turn this into , you are attacking my model, you should be banned' thing.

I am really proud of you

Thanks :) now you're going to make this dark boy blush :) and I did get your PM I'll post it when I get a chance to do it tonight.

ETA: If anyone tried to get you banned, I'd have your back!

Message edited by author 2008-06-02 16:36:35.

boyd2000

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

06/02/2008 04:40:10 PM · #16

Thanks, and by the way, for being your first model shoot these are great shots! I did my first model shoot a month ago and your pictures put mine to shame. I'm sure you'll do great in your upcoming shoots.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

06/02/2008 06:26:32 PM · #17

Originally posted by boyd2000:

Thanks... this week coming up is going to be a swimsuite shoot, which I'm excited for, but I want to make sure I do my best there too. which apearantly means watching the mouth too :)

jwillerton

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

06/02/2008 06:42:56 PM · #18

My favorite is the cowboy hat one...minus the mouth/expression...

As far as critiques:

I am not seeing a very prominent catch light in some of these stills. Catch lights really add some life to portraits. A simple fill flash can add one if you want something quick...try it out...the worst that can happen is you delete them afterward.

How many lights do you have? I think a rim light and maybe a hair light would add some punch. If you don't have another light...try using the sun to act as either or both...

Everybody else seemed to nail all the other critiques. Great work. Keep it up.

Message edited by author 2008-06-02 18:46:29.

wehrmacher

Pentax K10D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

06/02/2008 07:18:32 PM · #19

Hi,

I left you a comment on the shot, but I suppose I should have replied here. Just curious, did you work on the model's eye color. I have never seen eye color like this:
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06/02/2008 07:20:14 PM · #20

Originally posted by wehrmacher:

Hi,

I left you a comment on the shot, but I suppose I should have replied here. Just curious, did you work on the model's eye color. I have never seen eye color like this:
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One Word: FUN WITH SATURATE TOOL :) far too much fun... I know I over did it, but it was fun :)

06/03/2008 12:04:03 AM · #21

JulietNN this is for you :)

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Tamron 16-300mm Di II VC PZD MACRO w/Canon Nikon mount

06/03/2008 08:31:28 AM · #22

wow that makes teh shot about 04820439852-485149851-468067039482049 better. you should show her those two photos and maybe she wont do the uni brow thing again!!! nice processing by the way