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05/12/2015 11:54:05 PM · #51
Had pretty much decided to purchase X100T, which sell for around 1,500 AUD with an Australian warranty, when I spot a few remaining X100S at 950 AUD. Always nice to have the latest model, but that's a BIG price difference and it seems to me the differences between the S and the T aren't that great. Opinions anyone....
05/13/2015 12:21:01 AM · #52
I'd say with that much price difference, the money is better spent elsewhere unless you were going to blow it at a strip club or something. lol
05/13/2015 09:07:55 AM · #53
That's kinda what I was thinking MadMan - not the strip club, the other part. Anyone have any experience with the S & T?
05/13/2015 10:43:16 AM · #54
Originally posted by Qiki:

That's kinda what I was thinking MadMan - not the strip club, the other part. Anyone have any experience with the S & T?

I have the S and love it. I have not gotten my hands on a T, but what I have read of the differences it would be had for me to justify that price difference. The upgraded features are nice, but more of the incremental variety. If I were in your position I'd go for the S, and wait to be envious until they release the next model.
05/13/2015 12:37:17 PM · #55
I didn't get roped into the Fujifilm madness until the T came out. I'm not always super-budget conscious when making initial purchases and tend to buy latest-greatest then hang on to it for a looonnng time. Regardless this is one fun camera with crazy good image quality. Either choice should make you a happy camper.
05/16/2015 06:45:37 AM · #56
X100S ordered. Travelling in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to only taking the one small cam with me.
05/16/2015 06:57:56 AM · #57
Originally posted by Qiki:

X100S ordered. Travelling in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to only taking the one small cam with me.


HA, so are we, in a few weeks.... wonder if we are going to the same place, I'm thinking of getting the same camera for the same reason.

Message edited by author 2015-05-16 06:58:22.
05/16/2015 07:27:49 AM · #58
Originally posted by Neat:

Originally posted by Qiki:

X100S ordered. Travelling in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to only taking the one small cam with me.


HA, so are we, in a few weeks.... wonder if we are going to the same place, I'm thinking of getting the same camera for the same reason.


Hey Anita. Long time, no speak. Off to Darwin. You? I really got the X100S for street, but I hope it'll work well as a travel camera too. If you're keen, check out CameraPro. $915 for Australian stock. Cheapest I've seen anywhere.
05/16/2015 08:04:08 AM · #59
Originally posted by Qiki:

Originally posted by Neat:

Originally posted by Qiki:

X100S ordered. Travelling in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to only taking the one small cam with me.


HA, so are we, in a few weeks.... wonder if we are going to the same place, I'm thinking of getting the same camera for the same reason.


Hey Anita. Long time, no speak. Off to Darwin. You? I really got the X100S for street, but I hope it'll work well as a travel camera too. If you're keen, check out CameraPro. $915 for Australian stock. Cheapest I've seen anywhere.


Ok will do. We are off to NZ. Have fun in the sun!
05/16/2015 08:30:58 AM · #60
Julie, you'll offer your parts here before eBay .... Right?
05/16/2015 09:23:36 AM · #61
Haha. Actually now not sure I will leave Nikon. Oddly, after shooting a work event I have gone back to my Nikon for much of my shooting. (Autofocus just a bit slow on Fuji. Fuji got nothing at the work event but as soon as I switched to Nikon, shots were very acceptable. I did take my Fuji to our last family event where focus speed wasn't an issue. But there too most shots with the Fuji seemed to miss their mark.).

So totally torn. The Fuji is a beauty, and I love the ease of changing settings. And it is so light.

But I also really struggle with just having one focal length. The Fuji lenses can create gorgeous images, but I feel so limited with what I can shoot. (And I know that is a brain issue not a lens/camera issue). I am not convinced I want to invest in the Fuji zoom lens with my uncertainty about focus speed. Add to that the continued wait for the Fuji 90mm macro lens. And the battery life, I didn't expect to be bothered much, and I always have a spare, but my oh my the battery life is short.

So I am now not sure I will keep the Fuji.

Is there a maximum number of cameras a person can have before they declare you the crazy camera person?

(Today's planned shoots will involve my Nikon with the 105 mm for some indoor shots, then my Fuji 23 mm for Outdoor shots. How could choose just one?)

Message edited by author 2015-05-16 09:43:33.
05/16/2015 10:30:49 AM · #62
Originally posted by Jules1x:

Haha. Actually now not sure I will leave Nikon. Oddly, after shooting a work event I have gone back to my Nikon for much of my shooting. (Autofocus just a bit slow on Fuji. Fuji got nothing at the work event but as soon as I switched to Nikon, shots were very acceptable. I did take my Fuji to our last family event where focus speed wasn't an issue. But there too most shots with the Fuji seemed to miss their mark.).

So totally torn. The Fuji is a beauty, and I love the ease of changing settings. And it is so light.

But I also really struggle with just having one focal length. The Fuji lenses can create gorgeous images, but I feel so limited with what I can shoot. (And I know that is a brain issue not a lens/camera issue). I am not convinced I want to invest in the Fuji zoom lens with my uncertainty about focus speed. Add to that the continued wait for the Fuji 90mm macro lens. And the battery life, I didn't expect to be bothered much, and I always have a spare, but my oh my the battery life is short.

So I am now not sure I will keep the Fuji.

Is there a maximum number of cameras a person can have before they declare you the crazy camera person?

(Today's planned shoots will involve my Nikon with the 105 mm for some indoor shots, then my Fuji 23 mm for Outdoor shots. How could choose just one?)


Make sure your Fuji is set to high performance mode. That makes a world of diffrence in focus speed.

If it's focus accuracy, that's weird. The fuji is spot on all the time when it gets focus...and it does very very quickly in high performance mode.

Lenses of course make any camera. I went a different way than you...I know primes are best, and I may eventually buy some, but to me it's hard to justify without IS. The extra wide aperture is lost if you a) have to stop down anyway for DOF, and then you start bumping ISO, and w/o IS, you have to worry about shutter speed more.

So I went with the 10-24, and the 18-135. Both are superb lenses, give you flexibility, and IS.

(Which makes me think: could your shots be less sharp due to camera movement?)

BTW--I have the nikon to fuji metabones adapter now, and it's a well built and solid adapter. I've done some macro shots with my 105mm Nikon Micro, and my 85mm Nikon APS-C macro (which is really very light and well suited for adapting.) It's expensive, and has one major drawback. Whereas you can take off the tripod mount...you won't want to, because you'll have to deal with the two light leaking holes that are left after removal (you need to remove two screws to take it off, and the screw holes somehow need to be plugged, but they don't give you plugs. Still, compared to the low end adapters, it has a great aperture ring (I have a fotodiox for my M43 cameras, and that has a really awful aperture ring which jumps across many f-stops).

ETA - Oh, and don't jump to any other conclusions yet--in June, the X-T1 is getting a MAJOR firmware update (think Sony A6000 type focusing). You can read about it here //www.fujirumors.com/using-firmware-4/


Message edited by author 2015-05-16 10:39:23.
05/16/2015 11:22:17 AM · #63
Originally posted by Neil:

Originally posted by Jules1x:

Haha. Actually now not sure I will leave Nikon. Oddly, after shooting a work event I have gone back to my Nikon for much of my shooting. (Autofocus just a bit slow on Fuji. Fuji got nothing at the work event but as soon as I switched to Nikon, shots were very acceptable. I did take my Fuji to our last family event where focus speed wasn't an issue. But there too most shots with the Fuji seemed to miss their mark.).

So totally torn. The Fuji is a beauty, and I love the ease of changing settings. And it is so light.

But I also really struggle with just having one focal length. The Fuji lenses can create gorgeous images, but I feel so limited with what I can shoot. (And I know that is a brain issue not a lens/camera issue). I am not convinced I want to invest in the Fuji zoom lens with my uncertainty about focus speed. Add to that the continued wait for the Fuji 90mm macro lens. And the battery life, I didn't expect to be bothered much, and I always have a spare, but my oh my the battery life is short.

So I am now not sure I will keep the Fuji.

Is there a maximum number of cameras a person can have before they declare you the crazy camera person?

(Today's planned shoots will involve my Nikon with the 105 mm for some indoor shots, then my Fuji 23 mm for Outdoor shots. How could choose just one?)


Make sure your Fuji is set to high performance mode. That makes a world of diffrence in focus speed.

If it's focus accuracy, that's weird. The fuji is spot on all the time when it gets focus...and it does very very quickly in high performance mode.

Lenses of course make any camera. I went a different way than you...I know primes are best, and I may eventually buy some, but to me it's hard to justify without IS. The extra wide aperture is lost if you a) have to stop down anyway for DOF, and then you start bumping ISO, and w/o IS, you have to worry about shutter speed more.

So I went with the 10-24, and the 18-135. Both are superb lenses, give you flexibility, and IS.

(Which makes me think: could your shots be less sharp due to camera movement?)

BTW--I have the nikon to fuji metabones adapter now, and it's a well built and solid adapter. I've done some macro shots with my 105mm Nikon Micro, and my 85mm Nikon APS-C macro (which is really very light and well suited for adapting.) It's expensive, and has one major drawback. Whereas you can take off the tripod mount...you won't want to, because you'll have to deal with the two light leaking holes that are left after removal (you need to remove two screws to take it off, and the screw holes somehow need to be plugged, but they don't give you plugs. Still, compared to the low end adapters, it has a great aperture ring (I have a fotodiox for my M43 cameras, and that has a really awful aperture ring which jumps across many f-stops).

ETA - Oh, and don't jump to any other conclusions yet--in June, the X-T1 is getting a MAJOR firmware update (think Sony A6000 type focusing). You can read about it here //www.fujirumors.com/using-firmware-4/


My Fuji is set to high performance, double checked that, so I'm covered there. I suspect you are right that part of my struggle is lack of IS. When I looked again at photos from my family event, most were actually just fine. (And I was shooting in a relatively dark room in the basement.) So I'm apparently over reacting a bit.

I suspect the other part of my problem is that I am just not a strong enough photographer yet. With the Nikon, I can throw it into auto and get shots I can live with. (Mainly I am making use of 'Automatic mode' switching from single point focus to autofocus where the camera picks focus point. I find I am not fast enough at moving the focus point, nor am I fast at switching between autofocus modes.) I have realized I need to try out focus-tracking, as that would likely help in situations involving kids/people. Two of my troubled shots are posted:

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With the Fuji I'm still floundering a bit and there doesn't seem to be a 'magic' setting where I know I'll get something decent. (So I suppose that just requires practice, practice, practice.)

Question? I have a once-in-a-lifetime family trip coming up. (Two weeks in Alaska. Parents, sisters families, 14 of us.) So I'm nervous about taking only my Fuji. Although maybe if I pick up the 18-135, that would work? I'm okay missing some shots, but it would be disappointing to come away with no good group shots.

I was thinking about the Panasonic FZ1000 - nice and light - long zoom for Alaska wildlife. Then taking my Fuji and one lens for when I wanted to play around.

Suggestions? (On out-of-focus shots and trip camera - Nikon is probably just too heavy with a fabulous herniated disc that has been flaring up.)

05/16/2015 11:31:49 AM · #64
Originally posted by Jules1x:

...

Question? I have a once-in-a-lifetime family trip coming up. (Two weeks in Alaska. Parents, sisters families, 14 of us.) So I'm nervous about taking only my Fuji. Although maybe if I pick up the 18-135, that would work? I'm okay missing some shots, but it would be disappointing to come away with no good group shots.

I was thinking about the Panasonic FZ1000 - nice and light - long zoom for Alaska wildlife. Then taking my Fuji and one lens for when I wanted to play around.

Suggestions? (On out-of-focus shots and trip camera - Nikon is probably just too heavy with a fabulous herniated disc that has been flaring up.)


Well I love the FZ1000, so you'll get a strong recommendation there, if you need to travel light. Especially for an outdoor trip where light is generally good.

For my next bike trip I plan to take the FZ1000 as my "long lens" and use the Fuji with the 10-24 as my short lens. Probably a fisheye too.

Basically that gives me a range of outdoor performance of (35mm equivalent) 15-400mm at F4 or better. Without changing lenses. You could easily just carry the FZ1000 though, but then there's no ultra-wide option. It does have an automatic mode, focus is extremely snappy, the viewfinder is great. It's light, and easy to use. If you're not pixel-peeping picky, you're good to ISO 1600, and for web use, you can go all the way to 6400.

I just think of it as a all-on-one lightweight zoom lens. (It weighs just under 2 lbs with the hood and battery.)
05/20/2015 11:04:32 PM · #65
OK, so my X100S has arrived and I'm beginning to learn it. One small problem is that my favoured editing software (ACDSee Pro) doesn't support the camera's RAW files, and it isn't something that appears to be on ACD System's radar. So, what software are other X100S owners using? I've read a few reviews complaining that LR doesn't handle the RAW files very well. Also, I have no intention of paying Adobe $10/month for LR, but not sure if it's still available for purchase? Any advice would be appreciated.
05/20/2015 11:33:29 PM · #66
Originally posted by Qiki:

OK, so my X100S has arrived and I'm beginning to learn it. One small problem is that my favoured editing software (ACDSee Pro) doesn't support the camera's RAW files, and it isn't something that appears to be on ACD System's radar. So, what software are other X100S owners using? I've read a few reviews complaining that LR doesn't handle the RAW files very well. Also, I have no intention of paying Adobe $10/month for LR, but not sure if it's still available for purchase? Any advice would be appreciated.


I haven't had my x-t1 very long, but I tried irridient developer, which is supposed to be the bees knees for x-trans raw files, but I didn't see it being better, at least on the files I tried. LR has done a pretty good job on the files I've done. However, I've "only just begun" building a library of x-trans photos.

As far as price, you could try Raw Therapy, which is free.

LR has the best overall interface of any of the software I've used. So for me, if LR were only nominally not quite as good, I'd stick to LR (which so far, I am!)
05/20/2015 11:36:11 PM · #67
Originally posted by Neil:

Originally posted by Qiki:

OK, so my X100S has arrived and I'm beginning to learn it. One small problem is that my favoured editing software (ACDSee Pro) doesn't support the camera's RAW files, and it isn't something that appears to be on ACD System's radar. So, what software are other X100S owners using? I've read a few reviews complaining that LR doesn't handle the RAW files very well. Also, I have no intention of paying Adobe $10/month for LR, but not sure if it's still available for purchase? Any advice would be appreciated.


I haven't had my x-t1 very long, but I tried irridient developer, which is supposed to be the bees knees for x-trans raw files, but I didn't see it being better, at least on the files I tried. LR has done a pretty good job on the files I've done. However, I've "only just begun" building a library of x-trans photos.

As far as price, you could try Raw Therapy, which is free.

LR has the best overall interface of any of the software I've used. So for me, if LR were only nominally not quite as good, I'd stick to LR (which so far, I am!)


Cheers Neil. And do you know if I'm correct in believing that LR can still be purchased outright? Adobe's site seems hell bent on getting folks to subscribe.
05/20/2015 11:50:07 PM · #68
My XF 50-140mm F2.8 arrived today. I can't wait to do some shooting with it.
05/21/2015 12:09:09 AM · #69
Originally posted by Qiki:

Originally posted by Neil:

Originally posted by Qiki:

OK, so my X100S has arrived and I'm beginning to learn it. One small problem is that my favoured editing software (ACDSee Pro) doesn't support the camera's RAW files, and it isn't something that appears to be on ACD System's radar. So, what software are other X100S owners using? I've read a few reviews complaining that LR doesn't handle the RAW files very well. Also, I have no intention of paying Adobe $10/month for LR, but not sure if it's still available for purchase? Any advice would be appreciated.


I haven't had my x-t1 very long, but I tried irridient developer, which is supposed to be the bees knees for x-trans raw files, but I didn't see it being better, at least on the files I tried. LR has done a pretty good job on the files I've done. However, I've "only just begun" building a library of x-trans photos.

As far as price, you could try Raw Therapy, which is free.

LR has the best overall interface of any of the software I've used. So for me, if LR were only nominally not quite as good, I'd stick to LR (which so far, I am!)


Cheers Neil. And do you know if I'm correct in believing that LR can still be purchased outright? Adobe's site seems hell bent on getting folks to subscribe.


Yes, you can still buy it. They just make it difficult. However, there are reasons why it's better to "rent". For one thing, LR is updated once a year and buying it every year is about a wash with the rental fee. But then for the $11 per month, you get Photoshop as well.

Go here, and click "Buy" not the LR icon itself.

//www.adobe.com/products/catalog/software._sl_id-contentfilter_sl_catalog_sl_software_sl_mostpopular.html
05/21/2015 12:24:32 AM · #70
Originally posted by Neil:

Yes, you can still buy it. They just make it difficult. However, there are reasons why it's better to "rent". For one thing, LR is updated once a year and buying it every year is about a wash with the rental fee. But then for the $11 per month, you get Photoshop as well.

Go here, and click "Buy" not the LR icon itself.

//www.adobe.com/products/catalog/software._sl_id-contentfilter_sl_catalog_sl_software_sl_mostpopular.html


Thanks for that Neil. I take your point about the relative costs of buying versus 'renting', but as I've only updated my editing software a couple of times in the 10 years I've been shooting digital, I'm not sure renting is the way to go for me. :)
05/21/2015 09:28:26 AM · #71
Decided for my Alaska trip to go all in Fuji. Picked up a 10-14 mm and a used 55-200 mm to go along with my beloved 23 mm. That should make for a livably light and flexible kit. (And I'll have my tiny Sony RX iii just in case.)

05/21/2015 10:21:41 AM · #72
Originally posted by Jules1x:

Decided for my Alaska trip to go all in Fuji. Picked up a 10-14 mm and a used 55-200 mm to go along with my beloved 23 mm. That should make for a livably light and flexible kit. (And I'll have my tiny Sony RX iii just in case.)


Good! We are building similar travel kits. I also broke down and bought the 55-200mm XF (new, but on sale this week for $499) to complete my zoom kit, so now I have the 10-24, 18-135, and 55-200. Still, I think I'd need to carry the FZ1000 which goes to 400mm at F4 (and 25mm at F2.8), so I may leave the 55-200 home when I go to the Canadian Rockies. My RX100 is flaky at this point, and I replaced it with a very cheap refurb Canon S100, but it's not the same :)

I still need to decide whether to buy a Samyang/Rokinon 8mm Fisheye, or just carry my Nikon 10.5 adapted. It's light, but the adapter adds 6 oz.

I'm tempted by the primes, mainly to see how sharp they can be. But without IS, it's hard to justify and it would be more to carry.

I'd buy the much touted 56mm 1.2 for portraits, sounds like a wonderful lens, but if I can live without AF and lens EXIF, I can always use my Nikon 50mm 1.4 adapted.

I'm also tempted to buy the 12mm Zeiss. Redundant to my 10-24, and no IS. So I am not sure it's worth it, but it sounds like a great lens.
05/25/2015 09:06:12 PM · #73
I try to make objective assessments of equipment and not get caught up in too much hype. But in the case of X100S the hype surrounding it seems to be with good reason. After a weekend of learning the camera on the street I'm extremely impressed with the:

* image quality
* beautifully sharp lens (even wide open at f/2)
* high ISO performance (lots of shots in low light at ISO 1600 with no appreciable noise)
* ability to hand hold at shutter speeds as low as 0.5 sec
* ability to sync flash at any shutter speed

Plus there's something intangible that just makes it joy to use. I'm hooked. :)
05/25/2015 09:47:51 PM · #74
My X-E2 is frustrating me lately, been using it to record videos of myself talking about things and I use f/2.8 since it's indoors, but since the DOF is so shallow I have to use autofocus, and it can't manage to keep my face in focus even though it's on continuous and face detection is on.

I would use manual and the camera remote app to check focus, but it doesn't work with my iPhone 6 plus. It worked on the iPhone 5, but I got rid of that one.

I am really wanting to get another Canon, a newer one that supports video and tethered shooting.

This Fuji is also having some issues keeping the manual focus distance set when I switch to view mode and then back to shooting mode. Hopefully the next version of the firmware fixes it.
06/01/2015 07:18:07 PM · #75
Some of the first shots from my X100S. Having a lot of fun with this little camera.
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