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04/24/2013 11:17:24 PM · #76 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Real disappointment. Especially the 1s and 2s. Sometimes I just don't get it. |
I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out the 1's and 2's.
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04/24/2013 11:20:17 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by nam:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Real disappointment. Especially the 1s and 2s. Sometimes I just don't get it. |
I thought it was very well done and gave it a 6, but it did not say Serenity to me at all. Since it did look emotional, I did not consider a low vote, but I do think I would have given it a higher score had the title been different given the challenge. |
Ditto. I gave it a 6 also, because there's nothing serene about it in my eyes, and anyway I'm not sure "serenity" is an emotion... But it's a lovely image. |
Hmmm...
se·ren·i·ty n. The state or quality of being serene.
emotion (one definition) a state of feeling
Guess it was too abstract for DPC but my thought process was the serenity that comes with enlightenment, which is usually represented by light coming from the crown. I also tried light from the heart and from the solar plexus but they didn't turn out as well.
Message edited by author 2013-04-24 23:28:27. |
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04/24/2013 11:26:00 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by mrchhas:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Real disappointment. Especially the 1s and 2s. Sometimes I just don't get it. |
ah but the question is do YOU like it... like, a LOT?
if so, screw 'em dude... in the nicest sense of course! |
I wasn't totally pleased. It would have been easier with an help. I did long exposures until 3 am alone in the dark with a flashlight, moving it along my body one hand at a time to get each half, then the other image trails. In the end I didn't get exactly what I wanted, and had to go to bed exhausted and disappointed. I knew it wasn't the most dpc friendly but I thought it would do better than it did, or at least have some nice comments. Don saved the day with that one, as usual. ;)
Outtake.
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04/24/2013 11:43:32 PM · #79 |
I think serenity is better demonstrated using less movement, or with movement but showing a calm face. Anyway, I thought my pic was great, but ended with a score a little above 5. I don't complain. Being not able to please DPC voters give me plenty reasons to keep improving and learning, and that's great. I think your picture has a lot of beauty in it, just not so great with the serenity message.
Message edited by author 2013-04-24 23:44:24. |
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04/24/2013 11:56:21 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by nam:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Real disappointment. Especially the 1s and 2s. Sometimes I just don't get it. |
I thought it was very well done and gave it a 6, but it did not say Serenity to me at all. Since it did look emotional, I did not consider a low vote, but I do think I would have given it a higher score had the title been different given the challenge. |
Ditto. I gave it a 6 also, because there's nothing serene about it in my eyes, and anyway I'm not sure "serenity" is an emotion... But it's a lovely image. |
Hmmm...
se·ren·i·ty n. The state or quality of being serene.
emotion (one definition) a state of feeling
Guess it was too abstract for DPC but my thought process was the serenity that comes with enlightenment, which is usually represented by light coming from the crown. I also tried light from the heart and from the solar plexus but they didn't turn out as well. |
Bummer that you blame it on the DPC community not getting it. I think you should do an independent study and show a hundred people that photo and then ask them what emotion they think of. Report back. |
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04/25/2013 03:31:15 AM · #81 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
[quote=mrchhas] [quote=escapetooz]
Outtake.
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oooooooooo i like your outtake a lot! anyway, i've had many experiences like you've explained and every morning i wake up hoping hoping hoping to see an over-6 score and instead see an under-5 score. then i realize all the mistakes I made are a little too obvious and oh well i'll try to get the next one better. the good thing is that, as you've shown, when you nail an image you really get it good. that's nice. |
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04/25/2013 04:08:12 AM · #82 |
Thinking of the 1's and 2's voters is a waste of time, there's no chance to understand them.
I like very much your image but IMO is to conceptual and abstract for the DPC crowd. And I have to say that serenity is not what comes to my mind when I look at your photo. Moreover I experienced how rarely voters like this kind of long exposures - but still I find them very interesting :) |
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04/25/2013 06:48:27 AM · #83 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
Bummer that you blame it on the DPC community not getting it. I think you should do an independent study and show a hundred people that photo and then ask them what emotion they think of. Report back. |
+1 |
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04/25/2013 07:28:36 AM · #84 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Outtake.
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That's MUCH more effective for me, in terms of the challenge :-) I can see the Dharma aspect here, whereas the other reads edgy and chaotic to me. |
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04/25/2013 07:48:53 AM · #85 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Outtake.
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That's MUCH more effective for me, in terms of the challenge :-) I can see the Dharma aspect here, whereas the other reads edgy and chaotic to me. |
+1, seeing the expression adds the emotion, the entry image did not convey emotion to me. I did not vote but would have been middle range 5 or 6. The emotion on the entry image was not clear enough and without the title a viewer could have interpreted it several ways. |
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04/25/2013 07:55:59 AM · #86 |
I hate to say it but your outtake is much better than your challenge entry.
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04/25/2013 09:19:48 AM · #87 |
Think it also makes the point that your title can make or break an image.
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04/25/2013 09:40:28 AM · #88 |
Originally posted by nygold:
I hate to say it but your outtake is much better than your challenge entry. |
I know. I was on a car trip with no internet as my teammates told me as such and couldn't change it as I got home after midnight. |
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04/25/2013 09:41:26 AM · #89 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by bohemka:
Bummer that you blame it on the DPC community not getting it. I think you should do an independent study and show a hundred people that photo and then ask them what emotion they think of. Report back. |
+1 |
Blame was not mentioned. That's your filter not mine. |
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04/25/2013 09:45:17 AM · #90 |
Perhaps, but I think it's fair to have interpreted it that way:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Guess it was too abstract for DPC... |
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04/25/2013 11:14:38 AM · #91 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
Perhaps, but I think it's fair to have interpreted it that way:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Guess it was too abstract for DPC... |
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I took it that way, but not so much a slam on DPC. Just that you thought DPCer's were incapable of getting the image. I don't think there's anything to get in the challenge entry. And frankly the challenge entry isn't too abstract. It's just not that good. I understand the light source is intended to render the scene abstract, but it should successfully convey the sense of something. In this instance you intended serenity. It didn't do that for me and it also failed to do anything else for me as well.
The light source doesn't add to the scene, it overpowers it. It's distracting in an unpleasant way that the outtake doesn't suffer from.
That said, I also think the outtake is a much better image than the entry. I quite like the outtake and I got the outtake immediately. That's a solid image.
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04/25/2013 11:16:32 AM · #92 |
The only thing I'd do to the outtake is I'd consider cropping it a little tighter on the right and left side and then reducing the amount of negative space on top a bit.
But, otherwise I would have scored that high. |
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04/25/2013 11:23:20 AM · #93 |
And the other thing I noticed was that I could see the flashes in the challenge entry. It's a detail that bugged me.
They are cropped out in the outtake and its much more appealing.
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04/25/2013 11:23:35 AM · #94 |
Yup. +1 to everything.
The entry was more like an explosion of light, and actually felt more chaotic than serene.
The outtake is beautiful and works much better.
Plus, not all feelings are emotions. As bear points out in my entry: greed is more of a character trait even though it's a strong feeling. People may have questioned whether it was an emotion.
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04/25/2013 12:22:38 PM · #95 |
Originally posted by Yandrosxx:
Originally posted by bohemka:
Perhaps, but I think it's fair to have interpreted it that way:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Guess it was too abstract for DPC... |
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I took it that way, but not so much a slam on DPC. Just that you thought DPCer's were incapable of getting the image. |
When did I say anyone was incapable? It's not to the taste of DPC. That's all I meant to say. All of this blame or saying DPC voters are dumb did not come from me, but from interpretations of my observations colored probably by many many people before me bashing voters. |
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04/25/2013 12:23:31 PM · #96 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Yup. +1 to everything.
The entry was more like an explosion of light, and actually felt more chaotic than serene.
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Yea I get that. I was trying to have the middle, main image be serene despite the chaos around her but I didn't quite get that across. I probably could have used another model. |
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04/25/2013 12:24:57 PM · #97 |
Originally posted by Yandrosxx:
And the other thing I noticed was that I could see the flashes in the challenge entry. It's a detail that bugged me.
They are cropped out in the outtake and its much more appealing. |
How do you mean? It was all done with only one headlamp. No flash at all. It's probably the light glaring back into the camera. |
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04/25/2013 12:53:26 PM · #98 |
| My problem is I read the title as Serendipity and I sez to myself, "wait, that's not an emotion". ;) (don't worry, I didn't vote on it) |
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04/25/2013 01:32:59 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
My problem is I read the title as Serendipity and I sez to myself, "wait, that's not an emotion". ;) (don't worry, I didn't vote on it) |
Not all of the titles were the emotion portrayed, so it could still work. :P |
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04/25/2013 02:08:06 PM · #100 |
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Originally posted by Yandrosxx:
Originally posted by bohemka:
Perhaps, but I think it's fair to have interpreted it that way:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
Guess it was too abstract for DPC... |
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I took it that way, but not so much a slam on DPC. Just that you thought DPCer's were incapable of getting the image. |
When did I say anyone was incapable? It's not to the taste of DPC. That's all I meant to say. All of this blame or saying DPC voters are dumb did not come from me, but from interpretations of my observations colored probably by many many people before me bashing voters. |
I didn't say you said incapable. I said I took it that way. And I also said I didn't think you meant what i thought you meant as a slam on DPC. Point clarified.
I was really trying to say that I think the image just fails to carry the sentiment you were shooting for not that DPC missed it. It's not there for me.
That said, its definitely in the outtake.
And at first glance they look like speed lights especially the reflection on the right. Either way they stood out to me.
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