About my "SHOE" entry's 19 one votes

Olympus 12-50mm MZuiko Digital ED F:3.5-6.3 EZ

03/03/2010 07:58:07 AM · #51

I still liked the entry from

ThingFish.....like I said, it piqued my curiosity and made me look up Chaussure de Fleurs.

I love it when someone inspires me to learn something new.

MikeO

Fujifilm x100

03/03/2010 07:58:10 AM · #52

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by Issus:
for those saying that nikonjeb's boots are not shoes...

They're not......they're boots....8>)

ThingFish

Olympus OM-D E-M1

03/03/2010 08:13:34 AM · #53

Originally posted by Gatorguy:

thingfish I am going to take the high road here, and not comment further. Perhaps you should do the same.

Edited to say this was in response to a couple of thingfish's posts which have now been deleted.

You should have done that a long time ago. Did you not see the little swinging lock I posted? You ignored that and posted regardless.

Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 EX APO IF HSM for Nikon

03/03/2010 08:36:41 AM · #54

Originally posted by ThingFish:

... Even if you put a giant STOP sign in front of them they would more then likely put their foot on the accelerator. ...

Only if they're driving a Toyota, and then they'd blame the car. :-)

HarveyG

Nikon D800

03/03/2010 09:02:57 AM · #55

The thumbnail did it for me. I knew what it was before I opened it up. I thought it was a stiletto at first.
PO TAY TOES / PO TAH TOES etc
The image made me go look and discover a new photographic style/genre. Thank you for that!
Beats looking at smelly old ~~boots~~ erm shoes!

My take on the 1 voters. Disgusting. Holier than though. Not even a terrible blurred photo of shoes got that many ones. You cannot justify voting 1 on something that quite clearly was shoe related and oh so creative. Yes you can vote 1, but you can't justify it in this instance.
If it was a picture of some boring cat's paw pads (shoehorn) or a rusty horse shoe hanging from a nail, would they have received as many ones?

Message edited by author 2010-03-03 09:42:37.

JaimeVinas

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

03/03/2010 09:05:36 AM · #56

Dude, havent you figured out that if you dont take the challenge litterally you will get hammered?

Nice shoe photo btw. It was creative and executed well to imply it was a shoe. Shame most dont get it.

ragamuffingirl

Sony Alpha NEX-5N

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

03/03/2010 09:46:52 AM · #57

I think the Fine Arts challenge is going to be very interesting - since I've been doing google searches on Fine Arts Photography and most of the images I'm seeing as examples of this would get skewered in any challenge here.

dfstevenson

Nikon D100

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

03/03/2010 01:06:31 PM · #58

The directions said "shoe", not "shoehorn"

Cory

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

03/03/2010 01:11:39 PM · #59

Originally posted by ThingFish:

Originally posted by Nuzzer:
I didn't vote but the challenge description says "take an interesting photo of shoes" and it's not a shoe therefore it's DNMC in my book. You knew that, take the 1's like a man.

Excuse me! "Take it like a man" You need to get your facts sorted. I am not complaining or crying about anything at all or questioning whether it is or is not a DNMC. If you have eyes then use them and read the info I supplied under my image. Then you will see that I admit it is not perfect and that I knew many would not get it. My thread is not about complaining, it is just about pointing out to some of those who voted a 1 and might not have seen the shoe that there is in fact a shoe in the picture. I am not trying to justify that as a reason for my image being fully compliant to the challenge theme. Maybe it should have been DQ'd but that was not the point here. If it was DQ'd I would have accepted that. Try to THINK before jumping to conclusions. The whole world would be a better place for that.
Cheers
Fred

DQ's are reserved for technical errors. This was a judgement error ;).

Basically, DNMC and DQ's are totally different, and whereas DQ's are set in stone, DNMC's are ikle,fickle things..

Cory

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

03/03/2010 01:15:12 PM · #60

Originally posted by ThingFish:

GATORGUY wrote:
QUOTE"I think you are also making assumptions when you say those who voted a "1" didn't see the shoe. Perhaps they saw a *shape* of a shoe and felt, as I do (but I didn't vote), that it didn't meet the description of the challenge."UNQUOTE

Gatorguy read my comment again and see that you failed to read it properly the first time. You also only want to read what you want to read and like to jump to wrong conclusions like some of the others.

Here is what I wrote about that:
"Some might have voted a 1 because they felt the image was just too badly done or deserved a 1 because it did not fit the challenge theme even though they could see the shoe. That's fine with me"

please mod

*shrug* I've got to say, you nailed him on this one.. :)

Cory

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

03/03/2010 01:17:06 PM · #61

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by ThingFish:
... Even if you put a giant STOP sign in front of them they would more then likely put their foot on the accelerator. ...

Only if they're driving a Toyota, and then they'd blame the car. :-)

Has anyone actually thought of turning the f-ing things off?? The key works at speed too!

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Canon

03/03/2010 01:30:28 PM · #62

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by ThingFish:
... Even if you put a giant STOP sign in front of them they would more then likely put their foot on the accelerator. ...

Only if they're driving a Toyota, and then they'd blame the car. :-)

Has anyone actually thought of turning the f-ing things off?? The key works at speed too!

I've wondered about that. What does happen if you turn the key off while the car is moving at speed? Wouldn't that just kill the engine and you coast to a stop?

james_so

Canon EOS 77D

03/03/2010 01:30:51 PM · #63

Originally posted by coryboehne:

So does the steering lock unfortunately.. Though turning the ignition off would be my first reaction it isn't advised because some people apparently would turn the key that few clicks too far :|

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Canon

03/03/2010 01:32:57 PM · #64

Originally posted by james_so:

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by ThingFish:
... Even if you put a giant STOP sign in front of them they would more then likely put their foot on the accelerator. ...

Only if they're driving a Toyota, and then they'd blame the car. :-)

Has anyone actually thought of turning the f-ing things off?? The key works at speed too!

So does the steering lock unfortunately.. Though turning the ignition off would be my first reaction it isn't advised because some people apparently would turn the key that few clicks too far :|

What about just putting it in neutral? Of course then it would really suck if you went too far and tried to put it in Park at speed...

james_so

Canon EOS 77D

03/03/2010 01:36:42 PM · #65

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by james_so:

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by ThingFish:
... Even if you put a giant STOP sign in front of them they would more then likely put their foot on the accelerator. ...

Only if they're driving a Toyota, and then they'd blame the car. :-)

Has anyone actually thought of turning the f-ing things off?? The key works at speed too!

So does the steering lock unfortunately.. Though turning the ignition off would be my first reaction it isn't advised because some people apparently would turn the key that few clicks too far :|

What about just putting it in neutral? Of course then it would really suck if you went too far and tried to put it in Park at speed...

I understand that that is the accepted 'right advice' now, it used to be to switch off and shift down through the gears but then steering locks became more common, and drivers less intelligent it seems ;)

Nuzzer

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

03/03/2010 04:50:15 PM · #66

Originally posted by ThingFish (via Private Message):

Originally posted by Nuzzer:
I didn't vote but the challenge description says "take an interesting photo of shoes" and it's not a shoe therefore it's DNMC in my book. You knew that, take the 1's like a man.

Excuse me! You need to get your facts sorted mate. I am not complaining at all about whether it is or is not a DNMC. If you have eyes then use them and read the info I supplied under my image. Then you will see that I admit it is not perfect and that I knew many would not get it. My thread is not about complaining, it is just about pointing out to those who voted a 1 that there is in fact a shoe in the picture. It is not about me trying to justify that as a reason for my image being fully compliant to the challenge theme. Get it? I hope so, and try to THINK before jumping to conclusions and accusing people of things. The whole world would be a better place for that.
Cheers
Fred

You can see from your original post...

Originally posted by ThingFish's Original Post:

Just wanted to point this out specially for the sake of those 19 people who voted a 1 on my image and who were probably under the impression that my entry was in the wrong challenge as you could not see a shoe. Well do have a close look again at the way I arranged the flowers and the stems. It forms the shape of a high heel shoe/pump.

...that you are trying to make it clear to 1 voters that there was a show there. I was pointing out that it was fairly clear there was a shoe shape there but there was in fact no shoe.

smardaz

03/03/2010 05:10:53 PM · #67

Originally posted by pedrobop:

but don't you think it's wrong to give a 1 just because you didn't see the shoe instantly?

No, not if that is how you vote. Some people vote a 1 for something they feel does not meet the challenge. If you try to force all viewers to make allowances for artistic interpretation you might as well make every challenge a free study.

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03/03/2010 06:06:32 PM · #68

Originally posted by james_so:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by james_so:

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by ThingFish:
... Even if you put a giant STOP sign in front of them they would more then likely put their foot on the accelerator. ...

Only if they're driving a Toyota, and then they'd blame the car. :-)

Has anyone actually thought of turning the f-ing things off?? The key works at speed too!

So does the steering lock unfortunately.. Though turning the ignition off would be my first reaction it isn't advised because some people apparently would turn the key that few clicks too far :|

What about just putting it in neutral? Of course then it would really suck if you went too far and tried to put it in Park at speed...

I understand that that is the accepted 'right advice' now, it used to be to switch off and shift down through the gears but then steering locks became more common, and drivers less intelligent it seems ;)

You can shut the ignition off, then apply the brakes. You'll lose power assist on the brakes after a few applications of the pedal, but theoretically you'll come to a stop first.

Also, you cannot turn the key off far enough for the steering to lock until you put the car into Park because there's a starter interlock attached to the shifter that won't allow it.

You also cannot put the car into Park at speed because there is a safety mechanism built into the parking pawl that causes it merely to make an unpleasant noise to prevent transmission, and car, damage from the ill effects that would occur should the park mechanism engage, i.e. the wheels locking and throwing you into an uncontrolled skid.

james_so

Canon EOS 77D

03/03/2010 06:55:45 PM · #69

Not sure about the second point as I've never driven an auto, I am sure you are correct though and I should have noted that I am referring to advice given in the UK as I'm pretty sure that a manual (stick shift?) car can have the key turned right off and even removed while driving at speed. Possibly not newer more sensible models though, again I have a 10 year old car so I couldn't be 100% sure ;)

03/03/2010 08:02:00 PM · #70

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I know this is off-topic, but I just wanted to say "Thanks" Jeb....that's good information to know.

03/03/2010 08:04:39 PM · #71

Originally posted by james_so:

Most manual shift cars, at least here in the states, have a reverse interlock, or a button underneath the column that you have to use both hands to operate the key and button to rotate the column lock the whole way to the off position.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED II

03/03/2010 08:11:51 PM · #72

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

I know this is off-topic, but I just wanted to say "Thanks" Jeb....that's good information to know.

No problem!

One of the upsides of goobermint intervention has been in the area of safety. The interlock that is mandated here in the US that requires you to have the brake pedal depressed in order to take the shifter out of Park is another safety feature that prevents accidentally knocking a running parked car into gear. That was a bonus to the actual reason for its installation which was to make sure that the car could NOT be put into gear without the brake on to compensate for the "Unintended Acceleration" debacle of Audi 5000 infamy. That was without question the most shameful example of refusal to accept responsibility for one's actions in American automotive history, IMNSHO. So now we have brake pedal shift lock mechanisms, which does prevent accidentally knocking a parked, running, automatic car into gear. It's all good!

Sorry to perpetuate the hijack.....hope this info gives some peace of mind to folks....

George

Nikon D60

03/03/2010 09:22:18 PM · #73

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

a lot of info

So you're a car guy. Sweet!