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02/22/2008 12:24:49 PM · #26
I'm sure you'll do just fine :) There are many good suggestions here that should work.
02/22/2008 12:26:30 PM · #27
I have a 5year old golden retriever that I got when he was 6weeks. I was against crate training at first but i was living with 3 other people so I couldn't risk Sam messing up all their stuff. It worked great. It helps with house breaking for the simple reason that no one not even dogs want to crap where they sleep. Sam hated it at first but after a few days he was ok with it. He would sleep in the crate when we were home sometimes. It became his den, he would go in when i vacummed... he was and still is afraid of that thing.

The barking is simple. Ignore it. Put the dog in a crate pet him goodbye and leave. He will whine for a few minutes but eventually will get over it. The whining periods will constantly get shorter as the dog learns they don't produce any reaction. Very important, don't give the dog a reaction when it whines when you are home. Tell him to stop and don't play with him until he stops.


Running him till he quits each day is also important and they love it. I would get Sam so tired after work he would just sleep on the couch all evening. Also there is nothing cuter than a tired puppy.

02/22/2008 12:55:48 PM · #28
Just as an added note...there are many very good trainers out there. Check in your area. Additionally, as long as your pup is getting some really good exercise prior to going in the crate when you leave...they will go to sleep and not even miss you. You just need to establish a routine...so, they know when the kong comes out with the peanut butter you are leaving and they are getting a treat.

I also want to add, every puppy cries/whines when they first come home...it's all new to them and they have just been taken from the only thing they have known to this point. It's how you handle it now that will determine if this will be an ongoing problem or if it is only for the short-term. I will stress again, seek out a trainer...you will be happy you did.

Message edited by author 2008-02-22 12:59:37.
02/22/2008 01:01:14 PM · #29
Originally posted by ZeppKash:

Spazmo IS right. If you don't know how to control a pupppy, why do you have a puppy??

Remember to ask yourself this before you have kids. It's amazing how quickly you find yourself eating words.
02/22/2008 01:07:05 PM · #30
Originally posted by neophyte:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Too many people go out and buy a puppy without any idea of what they're getting into. I've lived next to people who have done just what the OP seems to have done; bought a puppy, then leave it cooped up in their house, bored, whining and crying all day to annoy the neighbors. The ONLY ones I have sympathy for are the puppy and the neighbors.


The people in the OP seem like good people to me who are looking for a solution to their problem, not the useless hindsight you're offering. Save your lectures for your own kids. The ONLY ones I feel sorry for are those who have to deal with your self-righteousness.


If they didn't want comments about what they've done, they shouldn't post in a public forum, it's that simple. I bet their neighbors wish they'd made their pet selection with a bit more forethought.

They're looking for a solution to a problem with their puppy on a photography site. Are there no websites for dog owners on the internet? Or does DPC now stand for Domestic Puppy Crisis?



02/22/2008 01:11:43 PM · #31
I personally think that cats are the perfect pet for people that have less than an acre (or at least a hectare) of land ... I think dogs are for those that exceed those conditions. I am sorry but that is my personal opinion ...

Edited to add ... if you cannot handle a "boxer/pitbull" puppy now ... what the heck are you gonna do when it grows up into an adult crunching machine and hangs on to a toddler's leg until the femoral artery starts pumping the little kid's blood about a meter away from the event?

I personally think that you bit off more than you can chew and you should have investigated it further and got a cat or a Yorkshire Terrier.

Message edited by author 2008-02-22 13:16:36.
02/22/2008 01:14:41 PM · #32
I asked here because others have asked personal questions and I have respected people's input....sorry.
02/22/2008 01:20:31 PM · #33
I think asking here is fine ... we all share OT stuff here ... I just hope you don't get upset when people tell you that you mucked up and slap your wrist ...
02/22/2008 01:27:44 PM · #34
spaz, I really think you can back off here.
02/22/2008 01:51:23 PM · #35
Originally posted by Creature:

Originally posted by ZeppKash:

Spazmo IS right. If you don't know how to control a pupppy, why do you have a puppy??

Remember to ask yourself this before you have kids. It's amazing how quickly you find yourself eating words.


I HAVE asked that question to myself before. Its why I DON'T have kids.

Thank you for bringing this to parenting. I really wish people today did ask that question before having kids.I
Insert here Greetmir's analogy of 'adult crunching machine' into teenage high school shooting
but this is a conversation for somewhere else....

(sorry for the thread-jacking)
02/22/2008 02:27:24 PM · #36
Lets keep this discussion ON TOPIC. I don't want apologies, I just want it to stay on topic.
02/22/2008 02:41:49 PM · #37
what i read was "How to stop whining like a puppy when you leave"
which i thought was a totally different topic considering the front pages of late .. ...
02/22/2008 02:43:37 PM · #38
My neighbors across the street have a collar for their dog that shocks it if it barks. I don't know how it might work for whining.

Here's a YouTube video of the collar in action on some silly kids. I'm considering buying a half dozen of them to put on my daughters and their friends when they converge on our house, to keep a peaceful decibel level.
02/22/2008 02:45:04 PM · #39
random thought. Does owning a pitbull invalidate your homeowner's insurance where you live/ with who your insurance policy is with ?

It seems to with quite a few states and insurance companies.
02/22/2008 03:01:59 PM · #40
Originally posted by Greetmir:

Edited to add ... if you cannot handle a "boxer/pitbull" puppy now ... what the heck are you gonna do when it grows up into an adult crunching machine and hangs on to a toddler's leg until the femoral artery starts pumping the little kid's blood about a meter away from the event?

I personally think that you bit off more than you can chew and you should have investigated it further and got a cat or a Yorkshire Terrier.


I disagree with this thoery 100%. And I find the graphic attempt at the shock factor a bit distasteful.

After raising and having several dogs from pups till death I know that the puppy year is the hardest usually with the two biggest concerns being housebreaking and keeping the dog from taking off. Crate training takes care of the housebreaking and there are many methods to train the dog. I've always done it with the theory of Excercise, affection and discipline. (Dog whisperer) I throw in a lot of consistancy and a bit of understanding of what makes a dog tick. I've been very successful. My German Short Haired Pointer sophia is two and a half years old and was crate and field trained by me she'll sit with a hand signal from 20 meters away and guards my son as if he were hers. Did I mention I live in the city in an apartment...

Much of the positive advise offered in this thread is right on target and would be successful if implemented. The good thing is that there are different solutions so you can choose which suits your need and if one doesn't work you have a "plan B" Boxers are very smart and will respond to the proper training. As I said earlier, you'll be just fine. And by the way I find your topic completely viable and hope you'll keep us abreast of the little pup's progress:)

Hind sight may be 20/20 but I'm more of a person who looks to offer a solution to problem at hand rather than an analysis of past decisions.
02/22/2008 03:03:56 PM · #41
Originally posted by Gordon:

random thought. Does owning a pitbull invalidate your homeowner's insurance where you live/ with who your insurance policy is with ?

It seems to with quite a few states and insurance companies.


Take time in finding a trainer. Avoid the pet store trainers and look for one that has earned a few titles on their dogs and the owners/dogs they train. You likely will have to wait until 4 months, or until your dog has his rabies vacination to enroll in a class. After you complete an initial puppy trainig class 4-6 weeks your dog should be able to sit, down, heel, and stay on command. If you attend a class that has several other owners/dogs in it, your dog will also gain some socialization skills.

At that point your dog should be trained well enough that your dog can earn a Canine Good Citizen certificate from the AKC. Many local dog clubs offer CGC/TDI testing/evaluation at their shows. In some locations having a CGC can help with your insurance, and should your dog ever bite someone it could save the dogs life. Your landlord and neighbors will also appreciate that you have a well trained and behaved pet.

AKC's CGC Information
02/22/2008 03:07:26 PM · #42
Actaully, that is a good point about the homeowners policy and home insurance. I know that Geico will not give me a home owners policy becuase I have a German Shep. Even though she is the dumbest dog in the world of dog history.

I am nto sure how it is if you are renting though, maybe that is also something you should check into. I know it is not about dog whining, but this comes with dogs too. Only becuase my neighbours dog bit someone, and the home owners insurance paid for the medical bills.

I expect to see you win the Pet Challenge now you have the cutest model in history!
02/22/2008 03:16:59 PM · #43
From the AKC website

Homeowners Insurance Available to Breeds Previously Excluded with CGC Certification [Friday, October 01, 2004]

The American Kennel Club is pleased to share the news that in some regions, Nationwide Insurance is issuing homeowners insurance to owners of breeds previously prohibited by the company, providing the dog passes the AKC Canine Good Citizen test.

Nationwide has stated: "Nationwide has begun to allow the owners of certain prohibited dog breeds to attain homeowners insurance if they provide an original copy of a certificate demonstrating successful completion of the AKC Canine Good Citizen program. This provision is currently available in limited areas and provided the applicant meets traditional underwriting requirements. The Canine Good Citizen program demonstrates responsible dog ownership and we certainly hope this change will prove successful."

Check with your insurance agent about.

Dog owners should note that at this time, only certain specified Nationwide regions are participating.

The AKC Canine Good Citizen Program is a certification program that is designed to reward dogs who have good manners at home and in the community. All dogs who pass the 10-step CGC test may receive a certificate from the AKC. The program continues to gain acceptance worldwide as the standard for well-trained dogs and responsible dog ownership.



02/22/2008 03:18:11 PM · #44
Originally posted by ralph:

what i read was "How to stop whining like a puppy when you leave"
which i thought was a totally different topic considering the front pages of late .. ...


Too Funny!

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

My neighbors across the street have a collar for their dog that shocks it if it barks. I don't know how it might work for whining.

Here's a YouTube video of the collar in action on some silly kids. I'm considering buying a half dozen of them to put on my daughters and their friends when they converge on our house, to keep a peaceful decibel level.


I used a shock collar to field train my dog. I would always keep in the trunk of the car at night though. I had fears I would wake up in bed and it would be on my neck and my wife would be standing there with the remote button while yelling through gritted teeth "I told you to put the seat down...."
02/22/2008 03:19:22 PM · #45
Originally posted by garrywhite2:

Nationwide has begun to allow the owners of certain prohibited dog breeds to attain homeowners insurance if they provide an original copy of a certificate demonstrating successful completion of the AKC Canine Good Citizen program.


So is it likely that getting a pitbull would invalidate most major insurance company policies until the CGC certificate is achieved ?
02/22/2008 03:30:41 PM · #46
Insurance Companies' Policies on Dog

The above information is from 2002 so much could have changed. I don't know if there is an updated list. You can see from the list that not all insurance carriers have a black list. Again I don't know what has changed. Best to check with your agent.

Speaking only for myself, the CGC had no impact on ability to acquire or on rates. I was only asked if the dog had ever bitten anyone. For the last 30 years I have only owned Aussies though.

02/22/2008 04:02:17 PM · #47
Some states prohibit discrimination based on breed. I know VA's Attorney General made a ruling a couple of years ago to that effect, which then trickled down to affect what shelters do with breeds of dogs like Pits. Used to be a lot of VA shelters just put them down, regardless of the individual's temperament or age. Now most are willing to give them a chance to be adopted if they pass the same temperament test any dog gets. Seems more fair and more sensible to me.

Back to the OP's issue: you've got a combination of 2 pretty high-energy, intelligent breeds there so I think the suggestions to tire her out before you leave are good ones, as are crating (though you probably need to gradually increase how long she stays in there rather than plopping her in there one day and leaving) and lots of safe chew toys, and some background noise.

She's not too yong to start training at home and she'd probably enjoy it; I recommend Playtraining Your Dog as a good place to start. I also would start her on the "nothing in life is free" plan now while she's small. Basically it means she has to do something for you to get anything from you. So if she wants to play and brings you a toy, you ask her to sit first. Before she gets her food, she has to sit and wait (this one's tough for a puppy, but pays off when they're fullgrown and hungry!). She nudges your hand to be petted, you tell her to sit first. I'm sure you get the idea. It's a very nonconfrontational way to reinforce that you are in charge and it has the added benefit of not reinforcing bad behavior by giving her attention when she acts up. You just ignore her when she misbehaves. I've seen dogs get the idea in literally minutes (I volunteer regularly at an animal shelter so I get lots of chances to try things like this). I use this as a basis for teaching other polite behaviors, like waiting till I say it's OK before rushing out the door. I ask the dogs to sit and won't open the door till they do, and even then they have to wait till I tell them they can go. They sit there quivering witrh excitement and staring at the outdoors but they do not bowl me over, which is a good thing when there are three of them and the smallest is over 100 pounds!

Best of luck with her and keep us posted on her progress :-)
02/22/2008 04:05:35 PM · #48
Two words:

Cesar Millan
03/16/2008 06:29:19 PM · #49
I just wanted to thank everyone for their suggestions. I succeeded in getting my dog to not whine while I am gone. We have a kong treat that we stuff with peanut butter, we leave the t.v. on and we used a barking collar she is doing great. She sits, shakes, lays down, and stays too. Thanks again for all of your help!
03/16/2008 06:35:02 PM · #50
Very Glad to hear it! You should get some pics of him up on your profile.
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