Bokeh VI - DPChallenge Forums

Sigma 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical HF for Pentax

05/12/2010 12:38:16 AM · #2

Bokeh V was my second challenge here and I entered a horrible shot that I cringe to look at now.

Will be nice to see if I can do a bit better this time round!

Pug-H

Pentax K10D

05/12/2010 12:46:41 AM · #3

Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:

Bokeh V was my second challenge here and I entered a horrible shot that I cringe to look at now.

Will be nice to see if I can do a bit better this time round!

You mean this one?

Yo_Spiff

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

05/12/2010 12:58:42 AM · #4

Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:

Bokeh V was my second challenge here and I entered a horrible shot that I cringe to look at now.

Not as bad as my own entry in that challenge. But it was an intentional gag shot.

My very first DPC entry was in Bokeh IV. Didn't do badly for a first timer.

Message edited by author 2010-05-12 01:00:46.

Covert_Oddity

Nikon D700

05/12/2010 01:08:10 AM · #5

Originally posted by Pug-H:

Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
Bokeh V was my second challenge here and I entered a horrible shot that I cringe to look at now.

Will be nice to see if I can do a bit better this time round!

You mean this one?

...

LOL, thanks for that :P

05/12/2010 01:23:58 AM · #6

My favorite challenge! I am going to love this thread!

That is all.

:-D

05/12/2010 03:10:37 PM · #7

Well, I am going to be the first to bring up controversy and then step aside. I wish (and hope) that the powers that be make a change to the bokeh challenge. They should state that both having a soft, out of focus background or foreground or having the OOF rings are both acceptable interpretations. that way no one will be voting down one or the other just because of their personal opinions. The OOF background/foreground is the generally accepted usage of the term. the oof rings is a very technical (and correct) definition of the term. So please, powers that be, put it in the explanation of the challenge that both are acceptable for the purpose of this challenge and save a ton of arguing.

thanks.

citymars

Nikon D700

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

05/12/2010 03:27:05 PM · #8

Originally posted by basssman7:

Thank you! What I learned from reading the forums during the previous Bokeh challenge is that you are probably doing it wrong, and that there are experts who feel it is their duty to lowball photos with OOF circular lights in the background, because that is the amateur's misunderstanding of bokeh.

freakin_hilarious

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

05/12/2010 03:27:40 PM · #9

It begins!

Simms

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

05/12/2010 03:32:12 PM · #10

Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by basssman7:
Well, I am going to be the first to bring up controversy and then step aside. I wish (and hope) that the powers that be make a change to the bokeh challenge. They should state that both having a soft, out of focus background or foreground or having the OOF rings are both acceptable interpretations. that way no one will be voting down one or the other just because of their personal opinions. The OOF background/foreground is the generally accepted usage of the term. the oof rings is a very technical (and correct) definition of the term. So please, powers that be, put it in the explanation of the challenge that both are acceptable for the purpose of this challenge and save a ton of arguing.
thanks.

Thank you! What I learned from reading the forums during the previous Bokeh challenge is that you are probably doing it wrong, and that there are experts who feel it is their duty to lowball photos with OOF circular lights in the background, because that is the amateur's misunderstanding of bokeh.

Cant wait to start handing out 1s & 2s to all those OOF circular lights... BRING EM ON!!! Rich and creamy - thats the ticket!

maggieddd

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

05/12/2010 04:18:31 PM · #11

so what is a proper bokeh? Now I am confused.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

05/12/2010 05:05:21 PM · #12

Originally posted by maggieddd:

so what is a proper bokeh? Now I am confused.

That depends on who you ask, which is why I sent a ticket to SC asking for them to clarify in the description of the challenge. Personally I think that both are correct.

tate

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

05/12/2010 05:18:03 PM · #13

Can't we just check previous challenges?
I was pleased with this finish and some would say it isn't great bokeh, I suppose

Originally posted by maggieddd:

so what is a proper bokeh? Now I am confused.

Message edited by author 2010-05-12 17:24:31.

tate

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

05/12/2010 05:27:24 PM · #14

I suppose if they added this link to the challenge definition it would help.

05/12/2010 06:05:58 PM · #15

Originally posted by tate:

I suppose if they added this link to the challenge definition it would help.

or perhaps this one.

I think what most people with narrow minds fail to grasp is that it is not the shape of the OOF blur, it is the QUALITY of that OOF blur, and that it should compliment the primary subject by making it stand out better to improve the photo. So that could be either a totally soft blurred background which isolates the subject, or it could be some of those OOF rings IF they help to improve the isolation of the primary subject, instead of detracting from it. :)

You could have a soft blur background which is in a colour/tone which is too similar to the primary subject so that it does not improve the photo and it would be bad bokeh. Same as if you had the oof rings but they were distracting the viewer's attention from from your primary subject...that too would be bad bokeh. It is quality, not shape that counts in my books.

Message edited by author 2010-05-12 18:11:46.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II

05/12/2010 07:16:25 PM · #16

I can't resist!

BoKeh can have OOF points of light defined by the circles of confusion or be smooth as silk but understand this BoKeh is a concept not a technique. BoKeh is not just circles of confusion.

Let's get it on!

:-D

bergiekat

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

05/12/2010 07:24:51 PM · #17

Jeez, E...ya just had to go there, muahahaha! :P

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

05/12/2010 07:26:04 PM · #18

;-)

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

05/12/2010 07:31:33 PM · #19

Are people saying that it has to be circles of confusion? I'm confused.

I thought this was an interesting bokeh.

but it's certainly not circles of confusion!

05/12/2010 07:51:01 PM · #20

There are CoC in that image but they are very subtle the creamy-ness of the BoKeh smooths them out. CoC is a function of the lens and the number of aperture blades.

I approach the concept of BoKeh by how well the subject is isolated, how the BoKeh in image compliments the subject and how it adds to the overall feel of the composition.

Message edited by author 2010-05-12 19:51:32.