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06/04/2004 11:48:56 AM · #1 |
With all this talk of stock photos, which actually sounds interesting, has anyone spent what seems to me just as much time preparing and submitting a photo to a magazine or something from, say 'Photographer's Market?" It seems that you might be able to make more money in one fell swoop by submitting in this way than in maintaining several stock photo sites.
If you've submitted to a magazine or book or other publishing company, etc., how much money did you make? Any tips or words of advice?
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06/04/2004 12:25:13 PM · #2 |
I didn't submit to a magazine, but one of my photos (via this site!) was selected for a magazine to use in an advertisement. I didn't make much, but it's another knotch on my belt.
I too, because of this, would be interested in knowing how else to break into this more. |
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06/04/2004 12:38:29 PM · #3 |
| I like some aspects of the stock sites that have been mentioned in the forums here recently. Especially the fact that you can concentrate on shooting, do some editing, and not get bogged down in marketing. But the price structure is so low that it is hardly worth your time. I wish I could find a site that is set up to sell stock shots at prices more comensurate with the talent level of dpc photogs. |
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06/04/2004 12:42:43 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
I like some aspects of the stock sites that have been mentioned in the forums here recently. Especially the fact that you can concentrate on shooting, do some editing, and not get bogged down in marketing. But the price structure is so low that it is hardly worth your time. I wish I could find a site that is set up to sell stock shots at prices more comensurate with the talent level of dpc photogs. |
Stock prices aren't often associated with the 'talent' level of the photographer. In some cases, they are, if you are a Tony Sweet or Bryan Peterson. Stock photo prices are set by what the customer will pay. Tony Sweet talks about this issue in his DVD "Visual Rhythm". If *I* am not willing to sell my photo for X dollars, there are more lined up behind me who will :)
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06/04/2004 12:56:59 PM · #5 |
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06/04/2004 01:04:13 PM · #6 |
Tina, nice to see you back posting again. Did you buy any of these books? If so, if I buy that super new printer I told you about and make a wide format print for you of one of your images will you loan them to me to read? :) :)
Message edited by author 2004-06-04 13:05:36.
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06/04/2004 01:05:11 PM · #7 |
I guess you can always Submit to Magazines and to Stock Photo site like Istock and Dreamstime..Why not do both!
Message edited by author 2005-05-18 08:42:30.
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06/04/2004 01:40:57 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Stock prices aren't often associated with the 'talent' level of the photographer. |
Good point John. Perhaps I didn't make my point very well.
The two stock sales sites that have been mentioned in these forums recently -- iStockPhoto and Dreamstime -- are selling images at rock bottom prices (from 10 to 50 cents). It appears that there is a market in that price range. But I'd like to find a site that sells images at higher prices. I'm not thinking about the big bucks that pro photgraphers can command, but somewhere in the middle between top dollar and rock bottom. I'm no pro but I would like to think I am, or at least aspire to be, better than the bottom rung of the market. |
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06/04/2004 01:48:23 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Stock prices aren't often associated with the 'talent' level of the photographer. |
Good point John. Perhaps I didn't make my point very well.
The two stock sales sites that have been mentioned in these forums recently -- iStockPhoto and Dreamstime -- are selling images at rock bottom prices (from 10 to 50 cents). It appears that there is a market in that price range. But I'd like to find a site that sells images at higher prices. I'm not thinking about the big bucks that pro photgraphers can command, but somewhere in the middle between top dollar and rock bottom. I'm no pro but I would like to think I am, or at least aspire to be, better than the bottom rung of the market. |
Try Corbis.com.
The issue with the higher priced stock images are that the companies that buy them usually want some form of exclusive use of an image that has not been previously published. THIS is why you wouldn't want to sell an image as royalty free if you plan to pursue the other route of higher pricing per image. |
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06/04/2004 01:48:50 PM · #10 |
| Has anyone tried to sell through Getty Images or Corbis? |
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06/04/2004 02:22:34 PM · #11 |
I think one of the problems with stock photography is that he photographs are usually somewhat generic so they can be used in many situations. Because they are generic, more people can deliver them and the supply goes. As supply goes up, price goes down. This doesn't suggest that the quality is low, but there are many photographers capable of delivering high quality stock images. The same thing has happened in other industries (I/T for example) and once the market is flooded your only option is to specialize and look for work in your niche.
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06/04/2004 02:48:14 PM · #12 |
I believe that you'll find that some of the larger stock sites/businesses don't allow unsolicited material. Corbis, Allmay (I think) and perhaps Getty all require you to submit a CD of images for review before they'll even discuss fronting your work. The last time I checked, any of these major dealers wanted a CD whereon each image was required to be at least 45mb in size. Some (I think Corbis) wanted the digital version to be 45mb in its native size and format. Meaning uprezzing wasn't an option. It'd take a TIFF from a 1Ds or 14n or some kind of medium format to generate that sized shot. Of course, perhaps they've changed their criteria since then. I think tho, that anyone needs to understand that selling to one of those places is nothing like selling thru one of the much smaller istockphoto type websites. Corbis is HUGE and has major clients worldwide that pay top dollar for stock images. They aren't run out of someone's home (at least from what I found when I checked on stock images).
Kev
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06/04/2004 03:03:13 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
But I'd like to find a site that sells images at higher prices. I'm not thinking about the big bucks that pro photgraphers can command, but somewhere in the middle between top dollar and rock bottom. |
Check out photoexposure.com. You can set your own prices, and the general range for web-sized images is around $30, with print sizes price from $50 to $100 or so. That seems pretty fair to me. It's a fairly new site, so it remains to be seen how succesful it will be.
Good luck, |
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