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Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

05/31/2004 06:37:39 AM · #1

I decided not to submit to the "Threes" challenge late last night as I felt my submission might be considered against "the spirit of the rules" because of the cloning required.

Would value opinions on whether this was correct.
Thanks..
Gordon

Submission

Original

peecee

Canon EOS-5D

05/31/2004 06:46:24 AM · #2

Hi Gordon,
I suppose it all depends whether you concider the droplets as " major elements" or not?
I feel you are probably correct, would have been an interesting entry though. Perhaps you could have shaken off the drops and just replaced 3 back, just a thought,
Thanks for your comments on the knobbly tree entry,I hoped for a higher result but never mind I liked it.

05/31/2004 06:57:50 AM · #3

Thanks for the reply Paul, I considered all the points you made..however, I didn`t take the shot until late Sunday evening and when I went back to try again the light was gone. :(
(I must stop waiting until the last minute to submit)

Like you, I expected your tree submission to finish higher.
Good work though.

Gordon

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

05/31/2004 09:07:17 AM · #4

I would really appreciate a site council member giving an opinion on whether this image would have been DQ`d should it have been submitted.
It seems to come into a grey area ie....what constitutes the "spirit of the rules".

It would be a great help to me and I`m sure many other submitters if this could be clarified a little and perhaps this image is a good example..as I just did not know whether to submit or not and ended up "playing safe" by removing it.
Thanks again,
Gordon

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

05/31/2004 09:24:48 AM · #5

Originally posted by Rules:

Cloning, dodging, and/or burning to remove imperfections and minor distracting elements is permitted, however using tools to duplicate, create, or move major elements of your photograph is not.

mOTiVe

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 35mm f/2.0

05/31/2004 09:35:34 AM · #6

I agree with Konador.. I saw too many pictures in the challenge who were adjusted to the challenge. People taking shots, then looking at it with: "how do i crop this to hold three", then naming it something with 'three' (wich is kinda boring for a title since we all know it has something to do with 3)..

There are a few pictures out there that really deserve to win, since they captured 3 of something in real life without editing or cropping too much.. This picture would not be one of them even with editing.

05/31/2004 09:41:18 AM · #7

Originally posted by Konador:

In my opinion you made the right decision. Normally I would think removing a raindrop or 2 wouldn't be a problem, but since these are the main part of your photos, and the editing would have been the only way your photo would have fit the challenge, I would say it constituted a "main element" and I would have voted to DQ the shot, not only by the "spirit" of the rules, but by the wording of the rules.

Originally posted by Rules:
Cloning, dodging, and/or burning to remove imperfections and minor distracting elements is permitted, however using tools to duplicate, create, or move major elements of your photograph is not.

That`s helped clarify the situation for me..thanks Ben.

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

05/31/2004 09:48:20 AM · #8

Originally posted by mOTiVe:

There are a few pictures out there that really deserve to win, since they captured 3 of something in real life without editing or cropping too much.. This picture would not be one of them even with editing.

I haven`t had the chance to view the images in the three`s challenge yet but I am sure there are many good shots and am happy to concede that they will be way ahead of mine in quality(I don`t think I ever mentioned that I expected to win anything)..but thanks for your opinion.

Gringo

Nikon D2X

05/31/2004 10:36:58 AM · #9

I do like the original shot better Gordon. I wonder how hard it would be to dry the unwanted drops with a paper towel? It is a nice shot.

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

05/31/2004 10:40:18 AM · #10

The original is much better, IMHO. I think you made a wise decision by not entering (spirit and letter of the rules, et. al.). I respect you immensely for that. :o)