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 12/04/2009 12:07:46 PM · #1
Hi,

I am considering buying Tokina 11-16 F/2.8 or 12-24 F/4 for my CANON 40D

Just wanted to know if these are fixed aperture lenses. I went to the website and found that the aperture range of 11-16 is F2.8-F22 . I am little confused because what I know that normally lenses come with full aperture range written with their names. I dont want fixed aperture lens.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks,
Zee
 12/04/2009 12:14:44 PM · #2
I used to own the 12-24 but can't remember if it was fixed.

I own the 11-16 and it is fixed at 2.8f.

However, for photography purposes, I would go with 12-24. That extra 1mm and a couple of stops isn't worth the distortion IMO. I use the 11-16 for video purposes.
 12/04/2009 12:23:20 PM · #3
Heavyj,

How is the performance of 12-24? and Is it good for Canon (though I can see you are a nikon fan:))

Thanks,
Gaurav
 12/04/2009 12:25:05 PM · #4
I too am looking for a Tonika 11-16 to share with my Canon 40D and 1D Mark II (recently got the 1D, made the decision vs the org 5D).
I want the Tokina only because I can't put the Canon EFS 10-22 on the 1D. Other wise I would defiantly go with the Canon 10-22, it has better reviews and is not a lot of more money.

BTW ebay seems to have the cheapest Tokina 11-16 Canon NEW. Plenty of Nikon tokina's available. This I believe is because most Canon shooters go for the better Canon 10-22.

ALSO.. I recently spent the day with a wedding photographer (//dbryantphotography.blogspot.com/) who shot alot with the 14mm II canon lens. Awesome perspective with little distortion. But that's what you'd expect from a $2k lens. That day is what convinced me I need that perspective too, for less money! Look at his website for examples.

Message edited by author 2009-12-04 12:26:25.
 12/04/2009 12:28:08 PM · #5
Originally posted by smilingstarsforu:
Hi,

I am considering buying Tokina 11-16 F/2.8 or 12-24 F/4 for my CANON 40D

Just wanted to know if these are fixed aperture lenses. I went to the website and found that the aperture range of 11-16 is F2.8-F22 . I am little confused because what I know that normally lenses come with full aperture range written with their names. I dont want fixed aperture lens.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks,
Zee


You're confusing a couple things. Look at this description of a Canon ultra-wide:

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5

See that "f/3.5-4.5" at the end? That means that at one end of the zoom its maximum aperture is f/3.5, at trhe other end it's f/4.5. This is common amongst zoom lenses. A zoom that marks at "f/2.8" is a fixed-aperture zoom, meaning its maximum aperture is the same throughout the zoom range. This has nothing to do with the minimum aperture; they all stop down to f/22 or even f/32.

R.
 12/04/2009 12:31:24 PM · #6
Originally posted by drick172:
I too am looking for a Tonika 11-16 to share with my Canon 40D and 1D Mark II (recently got the 1D, made the decision vs the org 5D).
I want the Tokina only because I can't put the Canon EFS 10-22 on the 1D.


The Tokina 11-16mm is for cropped cameras only, it won't fit the 1d
 12/04/2009 12:40:29 PM · #7
As I understand lenses, the aperture listed as part of the name is the maximum (widest) aperture that the lens is capable of. They can still be stopped down thru a full range of apertures, i.e., f/2.8 to f/22 for example, typically by the camera body on a DSLR. If only one maximum aperture is listed in the name, then the lens is capable of being set to at that aperture thru the full zoom range. For example, the Tokina 11-17 f/2.8 is capable of shooting at 11mm @ f/2.8 and 17mm @ f/2.8

If a zoom lens lists a range of apertures in the name, then that is the variable maximum aperture capability at the minimum and maximum focal lengths (zoom) for that lens. For example, I own a Nikon 18-70mm, f/3.5-4.5 lens. At 18mm the minimum aperture is f/3.5. At 70mm, the minimum aperture is only f/4.5. At any of the zoom settings, the lens aperture can be set by the camera anywhere from the maximum aperture (between f/3.5 and f/4.5) and the minimum (say f/22).

Hope this is not too convoluted of an explanation. (If I have this wrong, someone please correct me).

Message edited by author 2009-12-04 12:42:49.
 12/04/2009 12:44:48 PM · #8
opps

Message edited by author 2009-12-04 12:45:14.
 12/04/2009 12:51:52 PM · #9
Originally posted by bobonacus:
Originally posted by drick172:
I too am looking for a Tonika 11-16 to share with my Canon 40D and 1D Mark II (recently got the 1D, made the decision vs the org 5D).
I want the Tokina only because I can't put the Canon EFS 10-22 on the 1D.


The Tokina 11-16mm is for cropped cameras only, it won't fit the 1d


It is "angled" (for lack of the proper word) for an APS-c sensor but its mount is an EF mount. The 1D will accept it. but the corners at 11mm will be vignetted heavily. read the following
//www.kenrockwell.com/tokina/11-16mm.htm.
 12/04/2009 01:02:09 PM · #10
I just got rid of my 12-24 nice lens but had to have it serviced cost me $150. Then it started to error again so i got rid of it before it had to go back again. I picked up the 11-16 very very Sharp lens and built like a tank.

Read the reviews out there on the 11-16 vs the 10-22. You do get more CA on the 11-16 but nothing that can't be easily fixed with a edit. It is way sharper though and a little nicer IQ. The 10-22 is a beauty though.

For the warranty the Tokina has it killed. If bought in Canada you get a 5yr warranty and international 2yr vs the canon's 1 yr warranty.

I think people are referring to the tokina fisheye 11-17 as far as distoriton goes. Your subject reads 11-17.

Message edited by author 2009-12-04 13:03:07.
 12/04/2009 01:14:37 PM · #11
I'll vouch for the performance of the 12-24 on a Canon 20D. Really nice lens with good sharpness from f4 and up.
 12/05/2009 10:41:28 AM · #12
Originally posted by smilingstarsforu:
Heavyj,

How is the performance of 12-24? and Is it good for Canon (though I can see you are a nikon fan:))

Thanks,
Gaurav


you can find out photo quality taken from this lense here, //www.pbase.com/cameras/tokina/at_x_124_af_pro_dx

as other poster says, 11-16 vignetting issues, IMO i will go for 12-24 //www.amazon.com/Tokina-12-24mm-DX-AF-Digital/dp/B000GUKWMU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1260027599&sr=1-4
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