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10/22/2009 09:37:25 PM · #151 |
I wonder what the results would be of a poll that asked:
Can you see 800-pixel high photos without scrolling?
That is, I'm fine with 800 wide, but I wonder how many people voting are thinking about height? |
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10/22/2009 11:07:12 PM · #152 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Originally posted by mycelium:
I have to vote against this. I love high-resolution photos, and there are plenty of pictures that just don't look good below a certain size, but going to 800 pixels strikes me as risky. Unless image theft has ceased to be a problem, providing a steady supply of higher-quality images makes them even more attractive to steal.
One of the benefits of the 640/720px standard is that images are too low-quality to be worth stealing. People stole them anyway. 800px isn't much bigger, but for a lot of things that's enough. |
Images will ALWAYS be "stolen" as long as their posted on the web. If you want to keep your priceless works of art safe, lock them away at home on your personal, well secured hard drive. That is such a crap argument. Stolen...give me a break. Even IF you image is used, or hell, even printed, what have YOU lost? Yeah, I know...principle. Pffffft. |
Buddy, you need to relax, he is right, pictures need to be protected,
Many people are licensing their pictures, using either DPC, Flickr, or other,
If these pictures are available in high resolution, what prevent people from using it?!!!!!!!!!
call it bragging or whatever .. but sense I started watermarking my pictures, I started selling!! This picture  Which available as well on Flickr got sold 22 times, 2 sales as a result of being seen here at DPC.
I don't know about you, but there are people here that depends on photography to make a living .. or to fund their photography addiction, heck I got my 17L because of licensing, about to get the 580II all paid by photography. Not going to risk losing that and submit that kind of resolution. Submitting that resolution is simply risky ..
I wouldn't mind submitting at 20000(&*^*^%(*)& pixel if there is a general DPC watermark applied to it.
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10/22/2009 11:12:49 PM · #153 |
Why not putting an OPTIONAL DPC water mark, with an option to select or unselected when submitting and make the size whatever you want?
I'd assume this would satisfy everyone .. whoever wants to submit in 800 and whoever feels it is risky?
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10/22/2009 11:37:42 PM · #154 |
Originally posted by AmeedEl-Ghoul:
Why not putting an OPTIONAL DPC water mark, with an option to select or unselected when submitting and make the size whatever you want?
I'd assume this would satisfy everyone .. whoever wants to submit in 800 and whoever feels it is risky? |
This idea has been put up for consideration ==> in this thread. |
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10/23/2009 12:14:13 AM · #155 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
I wonder what the results would be of a poll that asked:
Can you see 800-pixel high photos without scrolling?
That is, I'm fine with 800 wide, but I wonder how many people voting are thinking about height? |
Yup! First we have to have bigger images so we can get better scores. And then we know what happens next: after every challenge there will be complaint threads that voters must not be scrolling to see the entire image before they vote, because otherwise the poster's image would have scored SO much better. Then threads asking the SC to prevent voting until scrolling is detected, or force voting to be done by buttons at the bottom of the page.
It never ends. |
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10/23/2009 04:30:12 AM · #156 |
Originally posted by chromeydome:
Originally posted by levyj413:
I wonder what the results would be of a poll that asked:
Can you see 800-pixel high photos without scrolling?
That is, I'm fine with 800 wide, but I wonder how many people voting are thinking about height? |
Yup! First we have to have bigger images so we can get better scores. And then we know what happens next: after every challenge there will be complaint threads that voters must not be scrolling to see the entire image before they vote, because otherwise the poster's image would have scored SO much better. Then threads asking the SC to prevent voting until scrolling is detected, or force voting to be done by buttons at the bottom of the page.
It never ends. |
Just set your monitor resolution. Mine is at 1920x1200. No issues with larger images here. The end. |
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10/23/2009 04:36:03 AM · #157 |
Originally posted by AmeedEl-Ghoul:
Why not putting an OPTIONAL DPC water mark, with an option to select or unselected when submitting and make the size whatever you want?
I'd assume this would satisfy everyone .. whoever wants to submit in 800 and whoever feels it is risky? |
You don't even watermark the images on your BUSINESS IMAGES, nor do you even watermark your portfolio images here. Your argument is ridiculous. Some of your images here are well over 700 pixels. You're not really talking about much of a difference at 800. Besides, if its going to mean the difference between you and your family being able to eat, just keep submitting small images. You will not be forced to submit at 800, but you'd better believe that I will vote lower on smaller images. Your argument is flawed. LET IT GO. |
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10/23/2009 08:50:15 AM · #158 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
... You will not be forced to submit at 800, but you'd better believe that I will vote lower on smaller images. ... |
Very nice. Kind of figured that is inevitable. :-/ Well, I guess that could counter-balance any dings (lower votes cast) that a voter gives to any images that have to be scrolled vertically to see. |
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10/23/2009 01:36:20 PM · #159 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Just set your monitor resolution. Mine is at 1920x1200. No issues with larger images here. The end. |
Only "the end" for someone who assumes every dpc member has a computer/laptop/monitor with that capability or that anyone who doesn't should (and can) upgrade to support this increase in size that seems so important to you.
Originally posted by ericwoo:
You're not really talking about much of a difference at 800. Besides, if its going to mean the difference between you and your family being able to eat, just keep submitting small images. You will not be forced to submit at 800, but you'd better believe that I will vote lower on smaller images. Your argument is flawed. LET IT GO. |
So which is it: not "much of a difference" or such a big difference that you will automatically vote smaller images down, and insist that everyone change their hardware to suit your pixel craving?
Message edited by author 2009-10-23 13:36:42. |
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10/23/2009 03:57:14 PM · #160 |
| If you can't view an 800x600 (bare minimum) image without scrolling on your screen, then how can you possibly edit prints. DPC will just need to decide who to cater to - those serious enough about the hobby/profession to have invested in the necessary hardware to support it or those who haven't (or only shoot for challenges). |
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10/23/2009 03:59:28 PM · #161 |
Originally posted by violinist123:
If you can't view an 800x600 (bare minimum) image without scrolling on your screen, then how can you possibly edit prints. |
Not everyone gets to vote using the same monitor that they use for editing (work, school, etc...). |
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10/23/2009 04:24:10 PM · #162 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by violinist123:
If you can't view an 800x600 (bare minimum) image without scrolling on your screen, then how can you possibly edit prints. |
Not everyone gets to vote using the same monitor that they use for editing (work, school, etc...). |
'gets' or 'chooses to' ? |
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10/23/2009 05:04:13 PM · #163 |
Originally posted by violinist123:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by violinist123:
If you can't view an 800x600 (bare minimum) image without scrolling on your screen, then how can you possibly edit prints. |
Not everyone gets to vote using the same monitor that they use for editing (work, school, etc...). |
'gets' or 'chooses to' ? |
How about "finds it convenient to..."? |
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10/23/2009 06:50:12 PM · #164 |
| You could always go bitch to your boss that you need a workstation ;) |
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10/23/2009 06:53:43 PM · #165 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
... You will not be forced to submit at 800, but you'd better believe that I will vote lower on smaller images. ... |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Very nice. Kind of figured that is inevitable. :-/ Well, I guess that could counter-balance any dings (lower votes cast) that a voter gives to any images that have to be scrolled vertically to see. |
Thats just what we all need.... everyone arguing over which format is best, and trolling everyones votes. Soon, a 3.0000 score will become the new ribbon winning standard.
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10/24/2009 10:45:54 PM · #166 |
Poll is currently running 80% in favor of 800 pixels...
R. |
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10/25/2009 10:02:09 AM · #167 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
The arrogance of those who demand everyone buy new monitors to keep up with them just ... stuns me.
I run my monitor at 1440x900. I can't see 720-pixel high images without scrolling because the browser, OS, and DPC's header bar all take up some of those pixels. This is a 2-year-old laptop, not something from the 90s. I'm not about to buy a new computer just because of DPC, or just because someone else thinks it's imperative to buy new hardware constantly.
That's why I'm voting against. If it were 800x720, with some layout changes on the voting page, I'd be for it.
I have no problem with people who want to go bigger, regardless of why. You're entitled. But the snottiness about "ancient monitors" and rude assumptions about people's desire or ability to upgrade is just ridiculous. |
Nobody's demanding that you do anything. What people want is a natural state of progression.
Just because I have a 17" monitor, CS2, and a five year old camera doesn't mean that I have the right to ask the site to hold back the steady progression of technology. And I don't.......yet I'm on the same page as the technology dinosaurs.
Why *wouldn't* I want the site to grow and become better for the day when I can afford the upgrades?
There pretty much isn't anyone on here that can't make screen resolution arrangements to deal with it if they don't want to scroll......you don't have to vote from a laptop; you don't have to vote from a desktop; nobody's telling anyone what they have to do.
If 80% of the people polled want the bigger size, does that mean screw them because 20% don't?
Talk about arrogant!
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10/25/2009 11:39:13 AM · #168 |
| Jeffrey, I'm running the same resolution as you 1440x900. I just did a test. I uploaded an image 800 high and one 900 high. If I hit F11 I can see both sizes without scrolling. Don't you have that option on a laptop? |
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10/25/2009 12:17:03 PM · #169 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
Jeffrey, I'm running the same resolution as you 1440x900. I just did a test. I uploaded an image 800 high and one 900 high. If I hit F11 I can see both sizes without scrolling. Don't you have that option on a laptop? |
Yeah, that's what I reported earlier myself. I honestly don't know what the fuss is. If 1440x900 is capable of viewing-without-scrolling, which it is, most definitely, by the simple exertion of hitting the F11 key, then this means that the only thing that's holding us back is the minuscule portion of members who run LESS than that resolution...
R. |
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10/25/2009 12:22:33 PM · #170 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
... If 1440x900 is capable of viewing-without-scrolling, which it is, most definitely, by the simple exertion of hitting the F11 key, then this means that the only thing that's holding us back is the minuscule portion of members who run LESS than that resolution...
R. |
Well, there's still the issue of concern over the larger size and image theft/misuse. Additionally, not everyone runs at 1440x900; for the most comfortable viewing I run my 19" Dell at 1280x1084. If voting at work it's worse with a smaller monitor (or those with laptops). |
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10/25/2009 05:42:31 PM · #171 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
Jeffrey, I'm running the same resolution as you 1440x900. I just did a test. I uploaded an image 800 high and one 900 high. If I hit F11 I can see both sizes without scrolling. Don't you have that option on a laptop? |
THANKS for the reminder Kelli. I forgot I could do that. That helps a lot.
I musta overlooked yours Bear....THANKS to you too.
Message edited by author 2009-10-25 17:43:42. |
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10/28/2009 12:12:26 PM · #172 |
Crud, I run at 1920x1200 on my 17" laptop :)
I like seeing more smaller, not less bigger. |
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11/06/2009 03:04:24 PM · #173 |
Okay, enough foreplay.
We've talked.
We've voted.
We've talked some more.
The minority view is loud.
The majority view is clear by a 4 to 1 margin.
Over to you, D&L ... whatcha gonna do? Just decide already, and tell us what it's gonna be, please. |
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11/06/2009 03:40:20 PM · #174 |
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:
Okay, enough foreplay.
We've talked.
We've voted.
We've talked some more.
The minority view is loud.
The majority view is clear by a 4 to 1 margin.
Over to you, D&L ... whatcha gonna do? Just decide already, and tell us what it's gonna be, please. |
when did you vote?
:) ;) :P |
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11/06/2009 04:04:25 PM · #175 |
Originally posted by karmat:
when did you vote? :) ;) :P |
I definitely voted - so what's it gonna be?? :P
But seriously - whether you need 99.9% consensus or the SC simply aren't ready to take a stand, I think it would be fair to at least give us a hint as to what is happening. I mean... since many of us took time to participate in the vote n' all :) We don't bite (I can't speak for Judi though) and I'm sure we all take whatever answer you give us as the good sports we are - right? |
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