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 05/17/2004 11:14:39 AM · #26
Originally posted by daisy77:
Originally posted by Donatien:


I'm going with Skief here. There are quite a few compositions made off-center in one way or another. Of course it doesn't have to be all dead center, but the main subject (however subjective that might be) should imo be in the middle, however you turn the image. I've punished a few really good shots on the same idea; I look dead center - if it isn't there, it's pretty much off topic.

However, if the surrounding composition supports the subject in the center, fine - that only adds to a good image I think.

[edit: typo]


i'm with you michael. dead center is pretty specific and i am voting accordingly. interestingly, i'm at 5.3ish with a centered subject and a decent shot. and although i would love a comment or two as to why it's not scoring higher, i think it is the LACK of surrounding stuff that may be dinging my score. just a subject in the center of otherwise nondescript surround is not where it's at with voters?

meanwhile, i am really impressed by the caliber of the photos in this challenge. great work all.


I agree with both of you. Images don't necessarily have to have a square crop, but the point of interest of the shot must be dead in the center of the image. I am also scoring images lower (not by a whole lot - so don't have a cow) that do not respect this challenge descriptor.

This challenge was different, putting less emphasis on such things as the rule of thirds, landscapes, etc. Some chose to go with it, some didn't.


05/17/2004 11:18:09 AM · #27
Originally posted by geewhy:
How are you people who are taking the "must be dead centre" approach voting on subjects like people or animals ?
Are you measuring from the middle of the body..or the face (which is where the eyes go to when viewing)?


Depends. Usually, the eyes draw you in on a prortrait, so I would say the eyes in a case like that. So I say the middle of the face, unless the person has his back turned to the viwere or is in silhouette. My answer could also be affected by such factors as i) is the person holding something, ii) is another part of the body showing more important than the eyes or the face, etc....
 05/17/2004 11:18:15 AM · #28
Originally posted by geewhy:
How are you people who are taking the "must be dead centre" approach voting on subjects like people or animals ?
Are you measuring from the middle of the body..or the face (which is where the eyes go to when viewing)?


That's part of the reasoning for my earlier opinion, which we hashed out extensively over here until the wee hours of this morning, so I won't say it all again.

interesting though that people disagree with me in this thread, but agree with me in the other on balance.

I'm going back over there where the weather is better ;)

edit ps: I'm not bitching because of my score, by the way - mine is doing just fine. I just happened to have an opinion on the subject. I've also been around here long enough to have known that this thread was going to come up. :D

Message edited by author 2004-05-17 11:19:49.
 05/17/2004 11:31:26 AM · #29
The other one that I have seen (some one may have touched on it in this thread), is a few tight crops around an object leaving nothing around the edges. Sure the Object is the centered but this forces me to look dead center to see if there is any detail that the shooter wanted me to pick up. On a couple I did not see any prominent detail around the center of the picture.
 05/17/2004 01:15:29 PM · #30
Originally posted by vince31874:
Also.... Consider A Flower being dead center... and a door being dead center.

Of course the flower can be placed dead center. But with a door, even if you place it dead center, some people will say it is not, because of its demensions.

What matters is the subject is Dead Center regardless of its demensions.


I think a door could be dead center if the margins on the top and bottom were equal to each other. And also the margins on the left and right were equal. The center of the door would be the center of the photo. I would count it as dead center. :)
 05/17/2004 02:25:08 PM · #31
Well, if you want to get that technical, I would then suggest the name of the challenge should have been called "DEAD CENTERED COMPOSITION".

;) (Off course I am just being silly at this point)

Message edited by author 2004-05-17 14:40:19.
 05/17/2004 06:07:32 PM · #32
Originally posted by geewhy:
How are you people who are taking the "must be dead centre" approach voting on subjects like people or animals ?
Are you measuring from the middle of the body..or the face (which is where the eyes go to when viewing)?


I'm now done voting and it's been a pleasant journey indeed. So many really nice images and some really good interpretations of the topic. Perhaps I sounded a bit to categorical earlier - certainly there are things that does not lend itself to being "entirely dead center", such as a body, an animal, perhaps the occational island and so forth. But many of them have managed anyway and some fail.

Hard to tell what and where without giving away example images, but take a profiled bird for instance, large enough to dominate the image. Place it('s body) well centered but looking at you with a clear focused eye. My bet is that the head and the eye is going to be the center of attention, since eyes do that, and if that is up in the corner - then the image isn't going to work for me.

Basically it is what appears to be main focus, what draws the major attention, that should be centered. If that is a larger area of the image it should be carefully weighted into the center. There's quite a few "cheaters" who've moved that part of the image just a bit out of center to make it look better. In all fairness it does, but still - out of challenge.
 05/17/2004 06:09:50 PM · #33
Originally posted by Donatien:
I'm now done voting and it's been a pleasant journey indeed. So many really nice images and some really good interpretations of the topic. Perhaps I sounded a bit to categorical earlier - certainly there are things that does not lend itself to being "entirely dead center", such as a body, an animal, perhaps the occational island and so forth. But many of them have managed anyway and some fail.

Hard to tell what and where without giving away example images, but take a profiled bird for instance, large enough to dominate the image. Place it('s body) well centered but looking at you with a clear focused eye. My bet is that the head and the eye is going to be the center of attention, since eyes do that, and if that is up in the corner - then the image isn't going to work for me.

Basically it is what appears to be main focus, what draws the major attention, that should be centered. If that is a larger area of the image it should be carefully weighted into the center. There's quite a few "cheaters" who've moved that part of the image just a bit out of center to make it look better. In all fairness it does, but still - out of challenge.


I agree completely, the main focus is what I preferred to see centered as well.
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