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04/18/2009 02:34:34 PM · #1


My family and i just moved into a 3-bedroom house on April 3rd. Now we are about to clean out some bushes and noticed several vines growing in them and on the ground in the back yard. Here are some pictures of the vines in the bushes. Could you identify if they are poison ivy or oak or something else we should be careful around.

thanks
Scott

Sorry for the sorry photos. Windy and low light. and human error :P
04/18/2009 02:41:03 PM · #2
Not poison oak but it sure looks like some raspberry or blackberry vines.
04/18/2009 02:46:41 PM · #3
Poison Ivy does not have serrated edges. It's not Poison Oak, that's more a lobed leaf. You should be good to go. Here's an image of the two:



R.

Message edited by author 2009-04-18 14:47:00.
04/18/2009 02:48:39 PM · #4
poison oak, ivy sumac(sp)
04/18/2009 02:50:48 PM · #5
Thanks for the replies. I will wear gloves to be on the safe side.

Scott
04/18/2009 02:53:59 PM · #6
There are a few varieties of vine mingling in there. One is most definitely of the Rubus genus, but I can't identify the others. I do know that the leaves of the one in your last photo are very common, and aren't at all harmful.
04/18/2009 02:59:10 PM · #7
Originally posted by SDW:

Thanks for the replies. I will wear gloves to be on the safe side.

Scott

Yes, it will have thorns. That multiple berry is definitely from the blackberry family -- poison oak has single berries each on its own stem. Its leaves come in a wide variety of shapes, as evidenced by its taxonomic designation, Toxicodendron diversiloba.
      
04/18/2009 03:03:54 PM · #8
I remember as a child the saying "leaves of three, leave it be", it was Permanently etched in my memory after I forgot it once ;p
04/18/2009 03:51:25 PM · #9
dude those are blackberry's, really yummy in pies
04/18/2009 04:06:39 PM · #10
your safe on all accounts
04/18/2009 04:30:39 PM · #11
Originally posted by JulietNN:

dude those are blackberry's, really yummy in pies


keep them! whether they're black raspberries or blackberries they'll make great pie or jam! (black raspberries are really puckery, so you'll need ice cream with that pie!)
04/18/2009 04:33:16 PM · #12
Does not look like poison ivy to me. I hate poison ivy. Hate it, hate it hate it hate it!



04/18/2009 04:37:48 PM · #13
Now that the sun is out let me see if I can get a few more pictures that are in focus. The vine with berries on it has thorns and it seems that the berries turn into the flowers.
04/18/2009 04:50:50 PM · #14
Originally posted by SDW:

Now that the sun is out let me see if I can get a few more pictures that are in focus. The vine with berries on it has thorns and it seems that the berries turn into the flowers.


blackberries/black raspberries definitely have thorns. But your flowers turn into berries. (never seen it the other way around (though i haven't seen everything..))
04/18/2009 05:10:59 PM · #15
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by SDW:

Now that the sun is out let me see if I can get a few more pictures that are in focus. The vine with berries on it has thorns and it seems that the berries turn into the flowers.


blackberries/black raspberries definitely have thorns. But your flowers turn into berries. (never seen it the other way around (though i haven't seen everything..))

Your have it right, I didn't think about the other way around. :)

I guess the reason I'm so concerned is because my brother got poison ivy on his arm when he was young and I was old enough to see what he went through. His right arm, from his hand to bend of his arm was one complete scab. The doctor had to scrap it a few times and took many weeks to heal. Since thin I have shied away from vines that I thought might be poisonous.

Message edited by author 2009-04-18 17:11:42.
04/18/2009 06:45:30 PM · #16
Here's Steve Davidson at Astoria, Oregon, with some foraged blackberries in his palm. The low, 3-leaf bushes in the bottom of the pic are where they came from. Preserve them (the bushes) and enjoy them (the fresh fruits).



R.

Message edited by author 2009-04-18 18:45:47.
04/18/2009 07:27:45 PM · #17
I love picking fresh wild black berries from the woods behind my house and make fresh warm cobbler!!! Yum

edit- as far as the poison ivy goes I think it only affects people that are allergic to it. I might be wrong but I've actually come in contact with it many times and have never gotten a rash.

Message edited by author 2009-04-18 19:28:56.
04/18/2009 07:49:35 PM · #18
Looks like black berries to me. While delicious, keep in mind the vines are very aggressive. They grow pretty fast, burrow under walkways and come up on the other side, are difficult to kill, and as the plant ages, the thorns get bigger and nastier.

The vine is well suited to protecting the delicious fruit. Birds love them, and will soon spread the seeds around your property.
04/18/2009 07:54:24 PM · #19
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Here's Steve Davidson at Astoria, Oregon, with some foraged blackberries in his palm. The low, 3-leaf bushes in the bottom of the pic are where they came from. Preserve them (the bushes) and enjoy them (the fresh fruits).



R.

When I was a kid we fished at a lake that had a lot of blackberry vines. We picked and ate them, very good. But these looked different for some reason. I guess because its been a long time ago plus the ones at the lake were full of berries. Now I having childhood memories. A neighbor had a Muscadine vine and us kids loved to pick and eat them. I haven't seen one of them in a long time.
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