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03/27/2009 04:45:36 PM · #151 |
Originally posted by soup:
... jesum-crow instead of jesus christ ?
yes / no ?
so 'arse' can't be offensive. i mean i didn't call you an ass. i called you an arse... |
Can't say I've heard that one either - I guess it is like Jeezers-Creepers; sugar; flippin' heck etc.
But an ass is a donkey, and an arse is a back-side! |
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03/27/2009 04:57:12 PM · #152 |
Originally posted by soup:
... jesum-crow instead of jesus christ ?
yes / no ?
so 'arse' can't be offensive. i mean i didn't call you an ass. i called you an arse... |
Originally posted by SaraR:
Can't say I've heard that one either - I guess it is like Jeezers-Creepers; sugar; flippin' heck etc.
But an ass is a donkey, and an arse is a back-side! |
Actually, here in the US, ass is also a colloquial term for backside, and/or a boorish person.
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03/27/2009 05:10:08 PM · #153 |
Originally posted by soup:
well - i have mixed feelings about that.
on the one hand i am called a jerk for using the word in question properly ... |
I think you misunderstood my post -- I was following up your humorous story with an old joke, which uses the same word, only without spelling it out, so to speak ... |
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03/27/2009 05:16:02 PM · #154 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by soup:
another thread gone bad :) |
Quaker gentleman, to some guy acting like a jerk: "I trust thy mother will reprimand thee, when thou returnest to thy kennel." |
I love this kind of insult. By the time the person's figured out what you're really saying you can be long gone and they can't do anything but stew :D |
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03/27/2009 05:20:14 PM · #155 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
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Actually, here in the US, ass is also a colloquial term for backside, and/or a boorish person. |
Oops, forgot the ;¬P .... ;¬P |
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03/27/2009 06:18:26 PM · #156 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by zxaar:
'i love ' anything is alright as long as this anything is animal. Try the same thing with humans and results may be nothing short of a disaster.
I found it out hard way. I told my coworker that i love her.
Now not only does she not talk to me, everyone in office thinks i am strange.
'gee you tell this to lady.'. Sometimes i wish if she were a bitch, then it would be alright to say 'i love this bitch'. And this would be alright. Sigh. |
Well, you obviously have/had some communication issues if this was the case.
I have many people who I am comfortable telling them that I love them, men and women, and others whom I'd never presume to have them understand, or have it be taken in a proper light.
Either your relationship isn't strong enough for you to have expressed this, or you maybe shouldn't have said this at all.
The workplace is probably one of the most dangerous places to express this kind of sentiment.
Though I do have empathy for your situation, considering the outcome and that it could have been forseen, I don't think it's appropriate to rest the cause of any angst anywhere but squarely on yourself. |
obviously it was a joke. Just thought of pumping some fun in otherwise serious thread.
PS: other than my wife, i think i have expressed love to 4 women. With all of them i do have close relationships. No problems.
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03/27/2009 07:54:23 PM · #157 |
Originally posted by zxaar:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by zxaar:
'i love ' anything is alright as long as this anything is animal. Try the same thing with humans and results may be nothing short of a disaster.
I found it out hard way. I told my coworker that i love her.
Now not only does she not talk to me, everyone in office thinks i am strange.
'gee you tell this to lady.'. Sometimes i wish if she were a bitch, then it would be alright to say 'i love this bitch'. And this would be alright. Sigh. |
Well, you obviously have/had some communication issues if this was the case.
I have many people who I am comfortable telling them that I love them, men and women, and others whom I'd never presume to have them understand, or have it be taken in a proper light.
Either your relationship isn't strong enough for you to have expressed this, or you maybe shouldn't have said this at all.
The workplace is probably one of the most dangerous places to express this kind of sentiment.
Though I do have empathy for your situation, considering the outcome and that it could have been forseen, I don't think it's appropriate to rest the cause of any angst anywhere but squarely on yourself. |
obviously it was a joke. Just thought of pumping some fun in otherwise serious thread.
PS: other than my wife, i think i have expressed love to 4 women. With all of them i do have close relationships. No problems. |
Aaah.. I usually look for a ':-)' or a ';-)' or a ';-p' sign in a funny rhetoric. Funny how just words fall short when expressing the intent.. they almost always need the dummy emoticons.. on the internet that is:-) |
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03/27/2009 10:20:22 PM · #158 |
Originally posted by citymars:
Originally posted by basssman7:
Originally posted by SaraR:
Must be a cultural thing - I would find it incredibly insulting and demeaning, as would all the English women I know. |
Actually Sarah, even up here in the "politically correct, we never want to hurt anyone's feelings" country of Canada, I know of many ladies who very proudly refer to themselves as "bitches" and do not mind being called as such, as long as it is in the proper circumstance. One specifically states "make sure it is a capital B in Bitch, cause I earned it!". |
A cultural thing, or maybe a generational thing. To me, it will always be an ugly word, and therefore should be reserved as an insult, not as a way to describe women in general, or as a term of power. The idea of someone using it as a reference to any of the women in my life is offensive. |
I think it's also how you were raised. The kids across the street were raised in a very different environment than I was. Swearing just wasn't done in our house--it was common-place there. My husband and I agreed in the very beginning of our relationship, that we'd never even say "shut up" to each other. Since it is extremely rare that I swear, when I do say something, even as wimpy as "bitch". I really, really, mean it. So if my husband ever called me a bitch.... |
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03/28/2009 12:33:17 PM · #159 |
hehe - Thou gotteth me with that one !
but it goes to show - that how words are read isn't necessarily how they were intended to be interpreted...
and it's OK if you DO feel like calling me a jerk. i didn't take offense - err - depending on how you interpret my use of the word offense... :)
actually - it just got me thinking.
Originally posted by GeneralE:
I think you misunderstood my post -- I was following up your humorous story with an old joke, which uses the same word, only without spelling it out, so to speak ... |
Message edited by author 2009-03-28 12:35:05.
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03/28/2009 12:38:33 PM · #160 |
i have a question for you that relates to part of what i posted earlier.
you say you don't swear. do you have other words that are used instead of a swear - but that potentially hold the same underlying meaning ?
for instance: replacing crap with crud.
i know if you looked the definitions up they would be different - but the intent of using one versus the other - signifies - to me - they are synonymous in your use of them...
Originally posted by vawendy:
I think it's also how you were raised. The kids across the street were raised in a very different environment than I was. Swearing just wasn't done in our house--it was common-place there. My husband and I agreed in the very beginning of our relationship, that we'd never even say "shut up" to each other. Since it is extremely rare that I swear, when I do say something, even as wimpy as "bitch". I really, really, mean it. So if my husband ever called me a bitch.... |
Message edited by author 2009-03-28 12:41:48.
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03/28/2009 12:54:41 PM · #161 |
Originally posted by soup:
i have a question for you that relates to part of what i posted earlier.
you say you don't swear. do you have other words that are used instead of a swear - but that potentially hold the same underlying meaning ?
for instance: replacing crap with crud.
i know if you looked the definitions up they would be different - but the intent of using one versus the other - signifies - to me - they are synonymous in your use of them...
Originally posted by vawendy:
I think it's also how you were raised. The kids across the street were raised in a very different environment than I was. Swearing just wasn't done in our house--it was common-place there. My husband and I agreed in the very beginning of our relationship, that we'd never even say "shut up" to each other. Since it is extremely rare that I swear, when I do say something, even as wimpy as "bitch". I really, really, mean it. So if my husband ever called me a bitch.... |
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I should probably say "I rarely swear". There are definitely a few, but far between, times when I swear. And then people know I really mean it. I guess is has to do more with my old english teacher, not my family. That English teacher said he wanted to make a button that said "help keep our swear words dirty". There was a year or two after I moved away from home that I swore quite a bit. But I found that, if you use a swear word frequently, it loses a lot of meaning. Plus, are there really that many times in life that require swearing? Just because someone cuts you off in traffic, do you really need to call him an ass? Could it be that he was just oblivious? Could it be that someone was terribly sick at home and he was in an incredible hurry? Life is too short to always assume the worst. |
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03/28/2009 01:04:17 PM · #162 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I should probably say "I rarely swear". There are definitely a few, but far between, times when I swear. And then people know I really mean it. I guess is has to do more with my old english teacher, not my family. That English teacher said he wanted to make a button that said "help keep our swear words dirty". There was a year or two after I moved away from home that I swore quite a bit. But I found that, if you use a swear word frequently, it loses a lot of meaning. Plus, are there really that many times in life that require swearing? Just because someone cuts you off in traffic, do you really need to call him an ass? Could it be that he was just oblivious? Could it be that someone was terribly sick at home and he was in an incredible hurry? Life is too short to always assume the worst. |
Err, the driving thing isn't exactly a great example. There's a very real reason to get angry at someone driving with undue care and attention. They'll eventually injure or kill someone. There is NO reason to be driving like that whatsoever. Oblivious? That person shouldn't be driving. Part of driving is being aware of everything around you. If you're oblivious that you just cut someone off, you're a bad driver, and deserve to get reamed out ;)
Now, I understand that swearing at bad drivers doesn't help, but it's understandable. |
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03/28/2009 01:12:15 PM · #163 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by vawendy:
I should probably say "I rarely swear". There are definitely a few, but far between, times when I swear. And then people know I really mean it. I guess is has to do more with my old english teacher, not my family. That English teacher said he wanted to make a button that said "help keep our swear words dirty". There was a year or two after I moved away from home that I swore quite a bit. But I found that, if you use a swear word frequently, it loses a lot of meaning. Plus, are there really that many times in life that require swearing? Just because someone cuts you off in traffic, do you really need to call him an ass? Could it be that he was just oblivious? Could it be that someone was terribly sick at home and he was in an incredible hurry? Life is too short to always assume the worst. |
Err, the driving thing isn't exactly a great example. There's a very real reason to get angry at someone driving with undue care and attention. They'll eventually injure or kill someone. There is NO reason to be driving like that whatsoever. Oblivious? That person shouldn't be driving. Part of driving is being aware of everything around you. If you're oblivious that you just cut someone off, you're a bad driver, and deserve to get reamed out ;)
Now, I understand that swearing at bad drivers doesn't help, but it's understandable. |
Understandable yes, but do you mean to tell me you've never, in your entire life, done something stupid while driving? Did the person who flipped you off help you see the error of your ways? I doubt it. You probably felt stupid enough as it is. If your mother/father/husband/wife did something stupid while driving, would you swear at them? Why is it that people always tend to believe the worst?
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03/28/2009 01:16:34 PM · #164 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by vawendy:
I should probably say "I rarely swear". There are definitely a few, but far between, times when I swear. And then people know I really mean it. I guess is has to do more with my old english teacher, not my family. That English teacher said he wanted to make a button that said "help keep our swear words dirty". There was a year or two after I moved away from home that I swore quite a bit. But I found that, if you use a swear word frequently, it loses a lot of meaning. Plus, are there really that many times in life that require swearing? Just because someone cuts you off in traffic, do you really need to call him an ass? Could it be that he was just oblivious? Could it be that someone was terribly sick at home and he was in an incredible hurry? Life is too short to always assume the worst. |
Err, the driving thing isn't exactly a great example. There's a very real reason to get angry at someone driving with undue care and attention. They'll eventually injure or kill someone. There is NO reason to be driving like that whatsoever. Oblivious? That person shouldn't be driving. Part of driving is being aware of everything around you. If you're oblivious that you just cut someone off, you're a bad driver, and deserve to get reamed out ;)
Now, I understand that swearing at bad drivers doesn't help, but it's understandable. |
Understandable yes, but do you mean to tell me you've never, in your entire life, done something stupid while driving? Did the person who flipped you off help you see the error of your ways? I doubt it. You probably felt stupid enough as it is. If your mother/father/husband/wife did something stupid while driving, would you swear at them? Why is it that people always tend to believe the worst? |
I'd expect to get flipped off/yelled at/etc. Yes. Mistakes happen, but expect admonishment for them. For me it's, "oops. Yah, I see that. Sorry man, my bad." Then I drive away and make sure I don't do it again.
Now, if someone tailed me afterward and got out and beat me or my car with a baseball bat, we're talking something else. heh.
Oh, and I HAVE yelled at people I'm a passenger with when they've done something wrong. I have no problem with it ;)
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03/28/2009 02:12:02 PM · #165 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Could it be that he was just oblivious? Could it be that someone was terribly sick at home and he was in an incredible hurry? Life is too short to always assume the worst. |
That is true.....there may very well be a good reason.
But does that excuse him if he runs into your car and injures your daughter?
Hey, he didn't mean it, right?
Though I'll grant you that life's too short to assume the worst, especially in the case of where the consquences cause someone else grief, I'm just not all that understanding.
Personally, I don't think there's enough accountability in life these days. Too many people want to blame other circumstances instead of just steppping up to the plate and accepting responsibility.
I just recently had some stupid kid swing out into my lane in a development to go around a car parked by the side of the road....I was caught completely by surprise, he was supposed to stop 'cause he didn't have room, but he just assumed I'd get out of his way. He cleaned the mirror off my car and the cops refused to make a ruling because there were no witnesses. Yet everyone knew what happened and neither this kid nor his parents would step up to the plate and do the right thing.
When I drive, I drive as though oncoming drivers WILL drive stupidly and carelessly, so I'm rarely disappointed, and ususally not caught out. This situation was just so abundantly obvious I couldn't believe it.
And did this stupid kid learn? Probably not, unless yu consider it learning that he could get away with doing wrong.
Did I....you BET! ALWAYS assume that the other driver will be dangerous, rude, inconsiderate, and incompetent. That way you won't get caught out and/or hurt or dead.
One last thing.....if you DO go through life prepared for the worst, not necessarily assuming it, you do get a pleasant surprise every now and then, and it's more obvious and easy to appreciate.
Message edited by author 2009-03-28 14:24:42.
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03/28/2009 02:18:47 PM · #166 |
vawendy makes a good point that if you curse a lot, it isn't as "effective" as if you don't.
When I taught in public school, I had a student that continually called me a b!Tch. Because of the setting of the school (it was an alternative where all of the students had "issues"), I didn't make too big a deal of it, other than a verbal reprimand and whatever the consequence was for disobeying the rule about cursing in our classroom. Obviously that didn't work, because the behavior continued.
Finally, one day, I had simply had enough.
When he called me that again, I simply said (in a rather terse voice), "Cody, to you, that is MRS. B!tch." The class fell absolutely silent and were absolutely shocked. The offender looked from me to them and back to me, sat down and did whatever it was I was asking him to do.
Had that been language I employed regularly, it would have never had that effect. |
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03/28/2009 02:36:47 PM · #167 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Could it be that he was just oblivious? Could it be that someone was terribly sick at home and he was in an incredible hurry? Life is too short to always assume the worst. |
That is true.....there may very well be a good reason.
But does that excuse him if he runs into your car and injures your daughter?
Hey, he didn't mean it, right?
Though I'll grant you that life's too short to assume the worst, especially in the case of where the consquences cause someone else grief, I'm just not all that understanding.
Personally, I don't think there's enough accountability in life these days. Too many people want to blame other circumstances instead of just steppping up to the plate and accepting responsibility.
I just recently had some stupid kid swing out into my lane in a development to go around a car parked by the side of the road....I was caught completely by surprise, he was supposed to stop 'cause he didn't have room, but he just assumed I'd get out of his way. He cleaned the mirror off my car and the cops refused to make a ruling because there were no witnesses. Yet everyone knew what happened and neither this kid nor his parents would step up to the plate and do the right thing.
When I drive, I drive as though oncoming drivers WILL drive stupidly and carelessly, so I'm rarely disappointed, and ususally not caught out. This situation was just so abundantly obvious I couldn't believe it.
And did this stupid kid learn? Probably not, unless yu consider it learning that he could get away with doing wrong.
Did I....you BET! ALWAYS assume that the other driver will be dangerous, rude, inconsiderate, and incompetent. That way you won't get caught out and/or hurt or dead.
One last thing.....if you DO go through life prepared for the worst, not necessarily assuming it, you do get a pleasant surprise every now and then, and it's more obvious and easy to appreciate. |
There's a reason it's called an "accident" and not an "on purpose".
Your glass is really half empty lately, maybe it's time for a vacation. |
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03/28/2009 05:18:23 PM · #168 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Could it be that he was just oblivious? Could it be that someone was terribly sick at home and he was in an incredible hurry? Life is too short to always assume the worst. |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
That is true.....there may very well be a good reason.
But does that excuse him if he runs into your car and injures your daughter?
Hey, he didn't mean it, right?
Though I'll grant you that life's too short to assume the worst, especially in the case of where the consquences cause someone else grief, I'm just not all that understanding.
Personally, I don't think there's enough accountability in life these days. Too many people want to blame other circumstances instead of just steppping up to the plate and accepting responsibility.
I just recently had some stupid kid swing out into my lane in a development to go around a car parked by the side of the road....I was caught completely by surprise, he was supposed to stop 'cause he didn't have room, but he just assumed I'd get out of his way. He cleaned the mirror off my car and the cops refused to make a ruling because there were no witnesses. Yet everyone knew what happened and neither this kid nor his parents would step up to the plate and do the right thing.
When I drive, I drive as though oncoming drivers WILL drive stupidly and carelessly, so I'm rarely disappointed, and ususally not caught out. This situation was just so abundantly obvious I couldn't believe it.
And did this stupid kid learn? Probably not, unless yu consider it learning that he could get away with doing wrong.
Did I....you BET! ALWAYS assume that the other driver will be dangerous, rude, inconsiderate, and incompetent. That way you won't get caught out and/or hurt or dead.
One last thing.....if you DO go through life prepared for the worst, not necessarily assuming it, you do get a pleasant surprise every now and then, and it's more obvious and easy to appreciate. |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
There's a reason it's called an "accident" and not an "on purpose".
Your glass is really half empty lately, maybe it's time for a vacation. |
Well, I'm not sure which example you're referring to, so I'll just have to assume that it's perfectly okay with you if someone hurts you, or costs you money, if it wasn't on purpose.
After all, it's perfectly fine to have to pay for someone else's screwups, right?
Perhaps you should read the whole post, actually think about it, and then realize what you've said.
Oh.....and feel free to take a hike yourself........8>)
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03/28/2009 06:14:53 PM · #169 |
| Just a reminder that I don't think this thread was a call FOR grand exits and bad feelings! lol. |
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03/28/2009 06:51:21 PM · #170 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Could it be that he was just oblivious? Could it be that someone was terribly sick at home and he was in an incredible hurry? Life is too short to always assume the worst. |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
That is true.....there may very well be a good reason.
But does that excuse him if he runs into your car and injures your daughter?
Hey, he didn't mean it, right?
Though I'll grant you that life's too short to assume the worst, especially in the case of where the consquences cause someone else grief, I'm just not all that understanding.
Personally, I don't think there's enough accountability in life these days. Too many people want to blame other circumstances instead of just steppping up to the plate and accepting responsibility.
I just recently had some stupid kid swing out into my lane in a development to go around a car parked by the side of the road....I was caught completely by surprise, he was supposed to stop 'cause he didn't have room, but he just assumed I'd get out of his way. He cleaned the mirror off my car and the cops refused to make a ruling because there were no witnesses. Yet everyone knew what happened and neither this kid nor his parents would step up to the plate and do the right thing.
When I drive, I drive as though oncoming drivers WILL drive stupidly and carelessly, so I'm rarely disappointed, and ususally not caught out. This situation was just so abundantly obvious I couldn't believe it.
And did this stupid kid learn? Probably not, unless yu consider it learning that he could get away with doing wrong.
Did I....you BET! ALWAYS assume that the other driver will be dangerous, rude, inconsiderate, and incompetent. That way you won't get caught out and/or hurt or dead.
One last thing.....if you DO go through life prepared for the worst, not necessarily assuming it, you do get a pleasant surprise every now and then, and it's more obvious and easy to appreciate. |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
There's a reason it's called an "accident" and not an "on purpose".
Your glass is really half empty lately, maybe it's time for a vacation. |
Well, I'm not sure which example you're referring to, so I'll just have to assume that it's perfectly okay with you if someone hurts you, or costs you money, if it wasn't on purpose.
After all, it's perfectly fine to have to pay for someone else's screwups, right?
Perhaps you should read the whole post, actually think about it, and then realize what you've said.
Oh.....and feel free to take a hike yourself........8>) |
Did I say it was OK?
You're the one railing against people who are making mistakes and assuming the worst about their nature. Of course you've never made any mistakes, have you?
You're also the one who has started threads about how you needed to take a break, did you actually do that? I didn't notice any let up in your rantings. Perhaps it's time for you to reconsider the idea before you burst a vessel.
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03/28/2009 07:23:12 PM · #171 |
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03/28/2009 09:32:05 PM · #172 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Just a reminder that I don't think this thread was a call FOR grand exits and bad feelings! lol. |
Yea, my original intention was the opposite, more like a call for calm! |
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03/28/2009 10:06:56 PM · #173 |
Calm? %(#&*%$()#&$ that!! hehehehe ;)
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03/28/2009 11:24:03 PM · #174 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Did I say it was OK?
You're the one railing against people who are making mistakes and assuming the worst about their nature. Of course you've never made any mistakes, have you?
You're also the one who has started threads about how you needed to take a break, did you actually do that? I didn't notice any let up in your rantings. Perhaps it's time for you to reconsider the idea before you burst a vessel. |
You're a real piece of work!
If yu think that someone as unpleasant, miserable, and confrontational as you is going to cause me any grief, you're mistaken.
Not that I owe you any explanation, but yes, I did take a short break, and then I realized that I shouldn't let people like you bother me.......you just go through your miserable lives trying to make others unhappy and never say one decent word to anyone.
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03/28/2009 11:31:07 PM · #175 |
Wow. Jeb being a jerk again? Say it ain't so.
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