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02/02/2009 09:00:34 AM · #76 |
Originally posted by sempermarine:
Originally posted by limerick:
 sempermarineyou posted a 7.5 after 2 votes. Mine is a 5.5 after 30+ votes. What do you have now? You may have this point for the h2h but it is early yet. I am right now thinking you will have this point and I will get the point for the open challenges. We may be tied at the end of this round. hahahah. |
You have me this time around. Dropped to a 4.4 after 30 votes. I also did not convert to black and white. BTW, I won't be entering a begin or end shot for lack of imagination. :) |
Wha? You got to be kidding me! Mine could drop to so keep the faith. I just went to a 5.4 without any extra votes. hhahah. You never know. I hope you get a brain flash for one of the open challenges but if not I will see you in the next one and keep you up to date for this one. |
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02/02/2009 09:16:03 AM · #77 |
| Is it true?... the people who chose to interpret this challenge as a color challenge (non gray????) are all voting in a block, with monolithic "1"s, against the images with gray subjects. There was no prohibition against conversion to a black and white image. The only conditional clasue sentence was .... "You should do your best to avoid extreme shades of gray (read: shades of black and white)". That doesn't mean take a color picture with some obscure element in gray. Nearly every photo has that condition. Furthermore, there are many images which are naturally in shades of gray. The challenge here was to capture a gray colored subject and avoid the extreme ends of the histogram. Mostly, I'm concerned that a group would vote in a block based on their "unique" interpretation. |
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02/02/2009 09:30:06 AM · #78 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
The challenge here was to capture a gray colored subject and avoid the extreme ends of the histogram. |
That is a unique interpretation. |
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02/02/2009 09:31:51 AM · #79 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
Mostly, I'm concerned that a group would vote in a block based on their "unique" interpretation. |
I'm not sure how else is one supposed to vote if its not based on anything other than their own interpretation of the challenge. I see no evidence that people are voting 'en block' only that a proportion of people (myself included) have interpreted the challenge as meaning shooting in colour to represent the colour grey.
Personally I found this very very tough to come up with an original idea to meet the challenge. I am pleased with the results I achieved but I fear that the voters are not (4.6 so far). It would have been SO much easier to take a photo of any 'ole thing and then convert it to B&W (with shades of grey!) but I considered that a cop out and I have voted down any images that have done this.
Its just a personal opinion but seeing my score go up and down like a yoyo one I feel strongly about just now :)
Oh an BTW..hello everyone it's my first post!
Thanksd, Paul
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02/02/2009 09:33:59 AM · #80 |
| I don't know what the confusion is really. It seems pretty obvious to me whether a photographer is trying to do something with the challenge (i.e-be challenged and come up with something that fits) whether that photo is in colour or black and white. It shouldn't make any difference. The colour, Grey, needs to be a large part of the shot either physically or metaphorically i'd say. Taking a photograph of a sunny beach and converting it to greyscale isn't going to cut it say, and neither is taking a photograph of something that just happens to have a grey background, or be next to someone wearing a grey hat. Looking through them there does seen to be quite a few shoehorns and i'm a bit amazed at the lack of some peoples imaginations to be honest. There lots of fantastic shots there as well of course! |
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02/02/2009 09:43:26 AM · #81 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Looking through them there does seen to be quite a few shoehorns and i'm a bit amazed at the lack of some peoples imaginations to be honest. |
That was maybe a bit harsh of me so i apologise for that. Admittedly, a colour Grey challenge is a lot harder than most other colours to focus on and be creative with. |
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02/02/2009 09:50:37 AM · #82 |
| Can't believe the sheer bullheaded deviance from RBG 127,127,127 !! omfg! |
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02/02/2009 09:55:00 AM · #83 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by hahn23:
The challenge here was to capture a gray colored subject and avoid the extreme ends of the histogram. |
That is a unique interpretation. |
True enough, but it is my interpretation. And, I'm not trying to encourage a group to vote in a block with "1"s. I'm voting on each entry based on the technical and artistic merits of the image. But, it must say "gray" to me. I've seen the images in this challenge. There are some very good ones.... which have gray shades. And, there good ones with colors other than gray, but have a gray colored subject. |
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02/02/2009 09:57:32 AM · #84 |
Originally posted by violinist123:
Can't believe the sheer bullheaded deviance from RBG 127,127,127 !! omfg! |
Intolerance can sometimes be measured by average vote cast. |
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02/02/2009 10:00:41 AM · #85 |
sempermarine Im dropping like a rock to a 5.333 now. You may have a chance here if this keeps up.
I dont know what I was thinking entering a subject that was really grey. hahaha.
Message edited by author 2009-02-02 10:01:10. |
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02/02/2009 10:11:51 AM · #86 |
Originally posted by violinist123:
Can't believe the sheer bullheaded deviance from RBG 127,127,127 !! omfg! |
dude!(ette)! lol |
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02/02/2009 10:13:40 AM · #87 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by hahn23:
The challenge here was to capture a gray colored subject and avoid the extreme ends of the histogram. |
That is a unique interpretation. |
True enough, but it is my interpretation. And, I'm not trying to encourage a group to vote in a block with "1"s. I'm voting on each entry based on the technical and artistic merits of the image. But, it must say "gray" to me. I've seen the images in this challenge. There are some very good ones.... which have gray shades. And, there good ones with colors other than gray, but have a gray colored subject. |
Umm, this isn't the gray challenge it's the grey challenge. Probably want to go back and vote with that knowledge in your free hand. |
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02/02/2009 10:22:49 AM · #88 |
Originally posted by violinist123:
Umm, this isn't the gray challenge it's the grey challenge. Probably want to go back and vote with that knowledge in your free hand. |
Hey I can see where you are comming from with Grey rather then Gray here and I did vote with the broad interpretation of the word Grey. |
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02/02/2009 10:36:42 AM · #89 |
Originally posted by Lutchenko:
Originally posted by violinist123:
Umm, this isn't the gray challenge it's the grey challenge. Probably want to go back and vote with that knowledge in your free hand. |
Hey I can see where you are comming from with Grey rather then Gray here and I did vote with the broad interpretation of the word Grey. |
There is no "grey" in my dictionary. I do understand gray. And, it isn't the colors of the rainbow. |
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02/02/2009 10:39:25 AM · #90 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
There is no "grey" in my dictionary. I do understand gray. And, it isn't the colors of the rainbow. |
Oxford English Dictionary
grey
(US gray)
â€Â¢ adjective 1 of a colour intermediate between black and white, as of ashes or lead. 2 (of hair) turning grey or white with age. 3 (of the weather) cloudy and dull; without sun. 4 dull and nondescript: grey, faceless men. 5 not accounted for in official statistics: the grey economy.
â€Â¢ noun grey colour or pigment.
â€Â¢ verb (especially of hair) become grey with age.
— DERIVATIVES greyish adjective greyly adverb greyness noun.
— ORIGIN Old English.
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02/02/2009 10:40:43 AM · #91 |
Votes: 34
Views: 50
Avg Vote: 5.5588
Comments: 0
Favorites: 1
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/02/09 10:34 am
much to my surprise, I hated this one. |
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02/02/2009 10:54:06 AM · #92 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
There is no "grey" in my dictionary. I do understand gray. And, it isn't the colors of the rainbow. |
Um, shouldn't that be 'colours' of the rainbow?
Sorry, couldn't resist. |
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02/02/2009 11:05:37 AM · #93 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by hahn23:
The challenge here was to capture a gray colored subject and avoid the extreme ends of the histogram. |
That is a unique interpretation. |
And, I'm not trying to encourage a group to vote in a block with "1"s. I'm voting on each entry based on the technical and artistic merits of the image. But, it must say "gray" to me. I've seen the images in this challenge. There are some very good ones.... which have gray shades. And, there good ones with colors other than gray, but have a gray colored subject. |
So we share the same opinion. Just that I also take into account, whether an image meets the challenge or not. A shot of an (obviously) coloured subject that was converted to b/w or has been desaturated doesn't (IMO).
BTW, I haven't given out a single 1 (yet). |
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02/02/2009 11:17:18 AM · #94 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
...A shot of an (obviously) coloured subject that was converted to b/w or has been desaturated doesn't (IMO).
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On previous color challenges with advanced editing, or this one, did it say anywhere that selective desaturation was prohibited? The Color Purple, for example:
My point is.... for this challenge, if one has a gray colored subject and it is better presented (aesthetically) with a desaturated background and foreground, then it should be voted on without prejudice, based on precedent set in previous color challenges. |
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02/02/2009 11:28:32 AM · #95 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
My point is.... for this challenge, if one has a gray colored subject and it is better presented (aesthetically) with a desaturated background and foreground, then it should be voted on without prejudice, based on precedent set in previous color challenges. |
I have to agree.
Provided that the main grey subject wasn't created by desaturation then I would certainly not be in any way prejudiced against it. |
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02/02/2009 11:52:57 AM · #96 |
Well I think its fair to say that people seemingly either love or hate my entry. Up from 4.6 in just a few votes.
Hopefully break 5 soon?
Votes: 35
Views: 59
Avg Vote: 4.9143
Comments: 1
Favorites: 1
Wish Lists: 0
I guess this challenge wonderfully demonstrates how subjective photography is. As long as it meets the challenge there is no right or wrong way. |
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02/02/2009 11:54:42 AM · #97 |
Votes: 36
Views: 53
Avg Vote: 4.8333
Comments: 0
Favorites: 0
Just ouch. |
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02/02/2009 11:55:17 AM · #98 |
Originally posted by TallPaul:
I guess this challenge wonderfully demonstrates how subjective photography is. As long as it meets the challenge there is no right or wrong way. |
Heh. Considering the main argument here is what, exactly, meets the challenge, that's an interesting statement. |
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02/02/2009 11:57:08 AM · #99 |
Originally posted by TallPaul:
As long as it meets the challenge there is no right or wrong way. |
True, in a perfect world... |
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02/02/2009 11:57:47 AM · #100 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
The Color Purple, for example:
My point is.... for this challenge, if one has a gray colored subject and it is better presented (aesthetically) with a desaturated background and foreground, then it should be voted on without prejudice, based on precedent set in previous color challenges. |
I wouldn̢۪t make any assumptions based on a challenge from 5 years ago the crowd is so fickle here they change with every challenge. I can never pick what the voters are thinking. |
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