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Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

01/22/2009 03:55:14 PM · #526

You have commented on 50 images (9%) in this challenge.

And another one bites the dust!

Alright. 50 comments done, and that concludes my goal for the Best of 2008. It's been fun and crazy once again, and I'll see y'all in February for January's Free Study.

BeckyT

Nikon D300s

01/22/2009 04:06:55 PM · #527

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

wow, nicely done. thank you for my creative narrative.

DigiFotoBuddy

01/22/2009 04:13:00 PM · #528

Only 216 votes for the challenge with 531 entries??? I understand some users don't vote for the challenge they participate, but I didn't know there are so many users like that. Come of people get off your butt and start voting.

01/22/2009 04:15:16 PM · #529

Originally posted by DigiFotoBuddy:

Most people won't vote 100% either, so that affects vote numbers. It's a lot of entries to vote on, especially if you don't want to machine gun it and be unfair to both the photographer and yourself.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

01/22/2009 04:15:29 PM · #530

Originally posted by BeckyT:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:
You have commented on 50 images (9%) in this challenge.

And another one bites the dust!

Alright. 50 comments done, and that concludes my goal for the Best of 2008. It's been fun and crazy once again, and I'll see y'all in February for January's Free Study.

wow, nicely done. thank you for my creative narrative.

You're welcome!

basssman7

Nikon D500

01/22/2009 04:28:51 PM · #531

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

Originally posted by DigiFotoBuddy:
Only 216 votes for the challenge with 531 entries??? I understand some users don't vote for the challenge they participate, but I didn't know there are so many users like that. Come of people get off your butt and start voting.

Most people won't vote 100% either, so that affects vote numbers. It's a lot of entries to vote on, especially if you don't want to machine gun it and be unfair to both the photographer and yourself.

You can also expect a fairly decent change with the vote scrubbers...be it good or bad. I am sure lots of folks went through and voted on those shots they loved...but if they did not get to 20% which is over 100 images in this challenge, their votes will drop off at rollover. It should be interesting.

DigiFotoBuddy

01/22/2009 04:56:08 PM · #532

I agree with both of you. But in order for user to decide which shot is better, she/he has to view all pictures. I don't think it take long time to vote on it if you view the picture. Unless.....users go by thumbnail....(Note to self), while submitting for the challenge, make sure the thumbnali also looks appealing.

01/22/2009 04:58:09 PM · #533

Originally posted by DigiFotoBuddy:

That's only one way of thinking about it. Many people subscribe to the theory that every photo stands on its own and should be judged as such, so they don't really care if they see all the photos. Many others, like you, use ranking to score. Each method is great as long as you're consistent about it and judge honestly either way. :)

Also note that you don't have to cherry pick the thumbnails to vote under 100%. Every person's photo order is randomized, so you just have to click on the first thumbnail of the page every time you bring it up and vote on as many as you want to or can (or even skip through what you don't care to vote on with the >> button)

Message edited by author 2009-01-22 16:59:39.

DigiFotoBuddy

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

01/22/2009 05:08:25 PM · #534

Got you. Thanks for very good explaination. No more rant from me on this one. Now, what was the next one I was thinking about .... ;o)

Blue Moon

Canon EOS-40D

01/22/2009 05:59:27 PM · #535

Votes: 208
Views: 371
Avg Vote: 5.6010
Comments: 10

and down goes my average. I'm pretty happy with this one though, regardless of the scores.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

01/22/2009 06:01:03 PM · #536

Originally posted by Blue Moon:

Votes: 208
Views: 371
Avg Vote: 5.6010
Comments: 10

and down goes my average. I'm pretty happy with this one though, regardless of the scores.

For some odd reason, if I had a 5.6, I'd be absolutely ecstatic and consider it a resounding success, but only having a 5.5 makes me feel that this entry has been a colossal failure.

Ahh, arbitrary goals, why do you hate me so?

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

01/22/2009 06:01:47 PM · #537

I got a K10DGuy comment. neener, neener, neener. . . . (to all of you that didn't). :)

Judi

Olympus 75-300mm f/4.8-6.7 II M.Zuiko ED

01/22/2009 06:07:45 PM · #538

Originally posted by karmat:

I got a K10DGuy comment. neener, neener, neener. . . . (to all of you that didn't). :)

Awwww.....I didn't....I am gunna cry now!

Rgarcia

Olympus OM-D E-M1

01/22/2009 06:09:00 PM · #539

Originally posted by karmat:

I got a K10DGuy comment. neener, neener, neener. . . . (to all of you that didn't). :)

I didn't get one....

Votes: 231
Views: 417
Avg Vote: 6.8225
Comments: 18
Favorites: 5
Wish Lists: 1

bassbone

Nikon Z8

Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-120 f/4 S

01/22/2009 06:09:48 PM · #540

Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by karmat:
I got a K10DGuy comment. neener, neener, neener. . . . (to all of you that didn't). :)

Awwww.....I didn't....I am gunna cry now!

I guess we will have to both cry with our 6.5+ scores... I didn't get mine either. Woe is me!

Olympus 17mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko

01/22/2009 06:24:10 PM · #541

Originally posted by bassbone:

Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by karmat:
I got a K10DGuy comment. neener, neener, neener. . . . (to all of you that didn't). :)

Awwww.....I didn't....I am gunna cry now!

I guess we will have to both cry with our 6.5+ scores... I didn't get mine either. Woe is me!

You know, I was kind of hoping I'd get one or the other of you (but not both), to give whichever one it was extra bragging rights. lol.

PennyStreet

Olympus OM-D E-M1

01/22/2009 06:33:00 PM · #542

Stats: You have rated 518 of 530 images (98%) in this challenge.
(and the 2% were photos that I felt I shouldn't or couldn't rate for whatever reason).
For me, it took several short sessions to get through them all and, when I felt like it, I commented.

My feeling is that if you're going to vote and judge the photos that you need to evaluate them all (or as many as possible) - to be fair - even if you're voting each photo on its own merit. We all work hard to put the photos up there, why not give every entry what it deserves. Besides this whole process is a learning tool - I'm kind of assuming that's what we're all here for!

Looking at the photos is fun, especially the free study challenges because you never know what's on people's minds when they pick what they do. Think of it as a trip to a museum. ("I like it, I don't, I like it, I dont.... oh, this one's pretty.... wow - I could do that!".... see how much fun...)

01/22/2009 06:36:22 PM · #543

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Something to strive for. Time is a luxury for many people. 500+ photos can be incredibly daunting and time-consuming to vote on. Just don't fall into the trap of having a personal goal and idea for what is right for you and suggest that it should be common practice for all. We're all different people we all have different priorities, and we all have a million reasons for doing what we do.

In the end, the spread of voting on the images is pretty consistent, and nowhere near unfair or unbalanced, and I think that's what is truly important.

01/22/2009 06:42:29 PM · #544

Of course, having said all that:

Votes: 219
Views: 316
Avg Vote: 5.5160
Comments: 7
Favorites: 0

I'm suddenly in danger of even losing my 5.5, and the last 10 or so votes have all been 5s, and I'm thinking that people are just 5'ing it to "get through all the photos". If so, that's just not right :)

dahkota

Canon EOS-7D

01/22/2009 07:29:41 PM · #545

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

My feeling is that if you're going to vote and judge the photos that you need to evaluate them all (or as many as possible) - to be fair - even if you're voting each photo on its own merit. We all work hard to put the photos up there, why not give every entry what it deserves. Besides this whole process is a learning tool - I'm kind of assuming that's what we're all here for!

I wonder if people would prefer I spend 10 seconds on each photo, as some voters confess to doing, to vote on all 500, or I spend a minute on each of 20% of the photos? Thoughts? I have that amount of time tonight...

01/22/2009 07:36:06 PM · #546

Originally posted by dahkota:

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

My feeling is that if you're going to vote and judge the photos that you need to evaluate them all (or as many as possible) - to be fair - even if you're voting each photo on its own merit. We all work hard to put the photos up there, why not give every entry what it deserves. Besides this whole process is a learning tool - I'm kind of assuming that's what we're all here for!

I wonder if people would prefer I spend 10 seconds on each photo, as some voters confess to doing, to vote on all 500, or I spend a minute on each of 20% of the photos? Thoughts? I have that amount of time tonight...

I can tell you right now that I prefer 20% with some time spent thinking it through.

dahkota

Canon EOS-7D